I want a refund

Post » Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:03 am

Nice way to be an ass about people who have ATi cards built into their laptops. I have a massive problem with your attitude and all of the devoted fan nVidia users trolling on everyone here who uses an ATi card. For you guys, you think we're all massive idiots who know nothing about computers and whine all day about crap not working. We're not. I don't care how long you've been in the IT business, it doesn't give you the right to be a pompous ass about how we spend our money. For us users who do have ATi cards and meet or exceed the minimum requirements, we just want the game to work so we can have fun too.

We're on a forum about a game, let's remember that before you start ****ing on people for buying the wrong graphics card.


Hey bud, some people just don't get it, even though I have an PNY NVidia GTS 250 and only a Intel Core Duo, I also understand that IF you meet minimum requirements regardless, you should indeed be able to play this game, I though do not believe that day 1 of release we will ever get a perfect product and if you do meet the requirements, we can only hope for an expedient delivery of a patch that will fix it all for the rest of you ATi users.

To the one who has the laptop, as long as you technically meet the requirements (v-ram, speed, pipes, such) I would submit your setup to SD so that they can get a fix out for you and many others with the same laptop.

We shouldn't all be to hasty to get on each other's cases because one believes the other's pc is just insufficient, check out my system for instance, and tell me what you think and I'll tell you... I can play Brink, pretty darn good too, minus a few graphical things.

Dell
Intel Core Duo 2.5 64bit
450 gig hd sata
4 gigs 800mhz ram
PNY NVidia GTS 250 1 gig ram
No dedicated sound card
DVD rom
650 Watt pwr supply
Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit

My system is just about recommended, these are my in game settings.

1600x900 Windows/1920x1080 FS
Shadows: Med
Model/Whatever: High
Motion Blur: On
Rest: Off

My game still looks freaking awesome and runs smooth. So... it more than likely is an issue with the way your system and the game communicate, hence why you guys need patches to fix your issues. And stop bashin one another's setups, lmao...
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Becky Palmer
 
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Post » Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:50 am

Freshly reformatted Win7x64 i5/GTS 360 system here crashing once I get into Brink, so his theory goes out the window. The fact of the matter is that there IS something not working as intended with Brink. I have faith that it will get fixed, but I will not go around pointing fingers at the consumer. Brink is nothing fancy - it should run on a host of systems, not pristine - bleeding edge systems. My system has been a rock for the last year playing any number of brand new games, ONLY Brink is causing problems.


and I'd bet all of those were DirectX games..as hardly anyone writes OpenGL anymore.
this is not.
this is a OpenGL based game..
it is much more problematic for users with different hardware's and drivers.

I'm running the game on 3 different systems with no issues.. 1 of which is an i5 HP craptop with Nvidia mobile on it.

Your system is one of the very few Nvidia setups having issues.
did you use this driver here? http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook-win7-winvista-64bit-270.61-whql-driver.html
came out last month on the 18th.
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Post » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:50 am

You guys should really quit [censored]ing. At least you guys can see the game. Check out the blue screen issue with NVIDIA cards running WIN7 64. We play with nothing but a blue screen. So, as bad as you think your poor little 30 fps is at least you can play the game. So how about I get my money back first senese it doesn't work at all.
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Kevin S
 
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Post » Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:23 am

You guys should really quit [censored]ing. At least you guys can see the game. Check out the blue screen issue with NVIDIA cards running WIN7 64. We play with nothing but a blue screen. So, as bad as you think your poor little 30 fps is at least you can play the game. So how about I get my money back first senese it doesn't work at all.


what issue with X64 w7 and Nvdia?
running W7 Ultimate x64 on all my machines.. no blue screen problems here.
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Post » Tue Aug 18, 2009 10:07 pm

You guys should really quit [censored]ing. At least you guys can see the game. Check out the blue screen issue with NVIDIA cards running WIN7 64. We play with nothing but a blue screen. So, as bad as you think your poor little 30 fps is at least you can play the game. So how about I get my money back first senese it doesn't work at all.

I have the same problem, along with many other people. Been browsing around on several forums and a lot of people are talking about this glitch. Will be looking into a refund from D2D tonight.
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Post » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:00 am

CVS see the thread about the blue screen issue. Some screen shot posted in there. We can't even play. And i made the assumption it is Nivida and win7 64 issue because everyone in there had that as the same base. Doesn't mean that is the case though. Bottom line we can't even play. lag or low fps in multi they might say is out of there control because of the service providers or some bullshi like that. But for the game to not even be visible except for a blue screen with font text. That is no ones issue but their own.
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Post » Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:22 pm

CVS see the thread about the blue screen issue. Some screen shot posted in there. We can't even play. And i made the assumption it is Nivida and win7 64 issue because everyone in there had that as the same base. Doesn't mean that is the case though. Bottom line we can't even play. lag or low fps in multi they might say is out of there control because of the service providers or some bullshi like that. But for the game to not even be visible except for a blue screen with font text. That is no ones issue but their own.


very interesting.. I played all night for the most part.. 3 am CST to 8am when I left for work and it worked great. that was after Steam updated the package last night about 9pm CST.
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Post » Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:32 am

Damn, I understand PC issues, yes, the game might be buggy on your system and I for one with an intel core duo 2.5, 4 gigs of ram and pny nvidia gts250 1 gig and running the game pretty well either in windowed 1600x900 or FS native 1920x1080 is crazy compared to some of your pretty sweet rigs.

Thing is, almost every game's day 1 launch is, and I stress IS going to have issues, granted it is pretty serious with the AMD/ATi issues regarding whatever setup you have and knowing that you really can't play what you just paid for until it is fixed, but don't forget, it is only a program. What we really need to be focused on is not the game or getting our refunds back because some monkeys who don't understand programming thinks they deserve a perfectly perfected program day 1, but lets see if SD sticks to their guns and fixes our issues and if/when they do, install and enjoy the game, sheesh. People amaze me sometimes.

So keep your britches on, see if you can get a temporary work around until the problems are resolved. If SD doesn't stick to their guns, don't buy another one of their products.


Hear Hear. LOL. I really do hope these folks come up with a patch very soon.
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Craig Martin
 
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Post » Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:09 am

I as well would love a refund on this game for the following reasons.

I have been anticipating this game for 2 years having high hopes, I assumed that by now in these modern times most developers would release a game near flawless and if not flawless at least playable online.

However this is not the case, there are so many balancing issues and not to mention stability issues as well. I have yet to play in a server that is not constantly moving at an incredibly slow rate. By that I mean the lag issues in the game are absolutely ridiculous.

Not to say I don't appreciate the customization aspect which is awesome, however that does not "make" the game. The single-player works fine, but the whole premise of the game is to be online with other players and if that does not work as well as it should then I want out, now... -.-
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Post » Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:50 am

What video cards are you using? ATI? or should i say FAILTI? This is a known issue with all ATI cards and they need a new release of drivers... this is not the fault of Bethesda or Splash Damage.... Get your facts straight. I run this game max settings, with no FPS or lag issues, no screen blurs or anything..... oh and i have Nvidia.....


This isnt ATI's fault its SD's fault for not testing for hardware compatibility. This game was totally rushed and it shouldn't have been released in its current state. That simple!
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Post » Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:54 pm

Its already been posted by a fellow SD member - They are aware of the poor performance output revolving around AMD/ATI technology, and are currently working on fixes.

Give it a week guys - Things will be up and running smoothly soon.


Your trying to tell insane people to act sane. GL with that bro. . . LOL!
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Post » Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:41 am

This isnt ATI's fault its SD's fault for not testing for hardware compatibility. This game was totally rushed and it shouldn't have been released in its current state. That simple!


yea instead of blaming card manufactures for one game that dont work try early release.I have ATI card, and it works extreamly well with every game. The drivers are the best and Iv never has a problem with them while running a game. Iv had a few "driver has stoped responding" but thats on rare ocasion, although annoying it dosn't cause any problems and that was only while in windows desktop, it just would show a black screen for 3 seconds and return like you know the old monitors would recalibrate back in the day of CRT monitors.

My PC is the first video in my sig if you wana take look at it, its best machine IV ever owned, and fully indorse anyone getting one.
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Post » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:29 am

some monkeys who don't understand programming thinks they deserve a perfectly perfected program day 1


Um, that has nothing to do with understanding programming, it has to do with expecting better QC on the parts of the developers. Back in the day, you had to make sure absolutely sure that your product was in working condition before release, because once it was out there you couldn't fix it - there was no Internet servers that you could download patches to for PC games, and consoles couldn't even connect to the net at all. You couldn't just release whenever you felt like and fix it as you went, you had to ship the product functional and complete. The Internet era has spoiled developers and lowered our expectations of them quite significantly, and it's a real shame. I know programming is devilishly difficult and there are always problems that are hard to foresee, and in the case of server lag, maybe they couldn't test it with the sheer amount of machines attempting to connect at once to one server, but a problem like "it doesn't start up at all on a significantly large number of machines more than powerful enough to run the program" is one that they really should've caught.

In short, while I don't advocate the people who want to go demand a refund - previously discussed ill effects aside, we ARE living in the Internet era where patches and fixes are more or less easily applicable - I don't think expecting a program that runs smoothly enough to be considered a finished product on Day 1 is either spoiled or indicative of a lack of programming knowledge or understanding.
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Post » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:38 pm

ah damn runing it on a labtop dual 2.2 ati 4250 ddr3 at 1066 craqed hell i can run crysis2 with blur off just fine =/ installed it on my othere labtop 2.1gz no dual ati x3100 4gb ddr2 dident start up updated the ati 11.5 and added the hotfix it starts just fine just get the gridlines and low fps wich is odd for only a 1core system.
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Post » Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:25 am

I do this for a living for the last 25 years. longer than most of you have been alive I'd wager..
I know how to run and maintain my PCs and never have the issues that others seem to have on launch days.


I don't do this for a living and I have only gamed for ten but I have never had any issues either.
Till Brink, which shuts down randomly because of an opengl issue.

Yea, it's SO me and my [censored] knowledge.

[censored].
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Post » Tue Aug 18, 2009 10:28 pm

This isnt ATI's fault its SD's fault for not testing for hardware compatibility. This game was totally rushed and it shouldn't have been released in its current state. That simple!


Do you understand how long it would take to test EVERY single video card that is out there. You say its simple but that is no easy task. I guaranteed you they tested it on a low rig, mid, and high and got the results they were looking for. The issue is ATI with this situation and its not the first time ATI has had problems with a game. They even come out with a hotfix to resolve it which only makes things work.

Now I have a Phenom X6 with an ATI 5850 with windows 7 64bit and have no problems what so ever. Max settings with shadows and all. I even tested several drivers to try to recreate the issue that you guys are having but cannot. Its a combination of things.

The fact is that a friend of mine has a 5850 and does have the issue. But he has a quad core. The graphic power from the processor combined with the video card is the source of this problem from the several tests that I ran. We even swapped video cards and his works fine on my rig and mine has issues on his.

This game was not rushed, I personally have been monitoring it for over a year now. The game works perfectly on many rigs.

There are to many combinations of parts and to test ALL of them is next to impossible.

Its only day 3 and I guarantee you they are working on it. Asking for a refund is stupid because once they have it fixed you are all going to want it again. Let it play out for a week and see where it goes.
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Post » Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:09 am

Welcome to the world of PC, so many different variations of drivers and hardware, Not everyone going to have the same experience when running PC games some will have Hiccups, some will run fine or some just won't be able to get their game started because of it.
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Post » Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:04 pm

I'd love a refund. Paul Wedgwood isn't returning my PM's. So I did what I have NEVER, in 30 years of gaming, had to do: I've given this game absolutely negative reviews in every place I can think of. Paul made a choice to release broken software that I can't use. I want my money back. He ignored me so I'm going to just cause more lost sales by trashing the game everywhere I can.

The fact that fanboyz are tolerating and promoting the behavior of companies to shaft their paying customers is lame imho but to each his own. Me? Just give me a refund and I'll never visit these forums ever again.
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Post » Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:33 pm

I used to have all kinds of trouble with new games when I had a amd/ati system. I switched to Intel/Nvidia in my next upgrade and I never had problems again. I don't know what it is, but intel/nvidia works for everything now. This game runs great and I'm somewhere in between the Recommended and Minimum Requirements. The only problem I'm experiencing is lag from servers when i have a constant green bar and the server has low ping.
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Post » Tue Aug 18, 2009 10:55 pm

@6600 4x 2,4ghz
4gb ram ddr2 800mhz
Ati radeon 6850 hd


black ops Crysis 2 maxed out... without lags.



brink 5- 15 fps no matter what resolution 800x600 or 1920 x 1080 same fps. same Lags



my m8 get a

dual core 2x 2,6 ghz
2gb ram ddr2 800mhz
ati radeon 6850

runs perfect on native 1920x1080 with max details.



man... i got the same Graficcard. and a better system. ! same grafic drivers. same direct x same windows 7 64bit.


Crap game ?. i send a email to betsoft. no reply....
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Chloe Lou
 
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Post » Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:07 pm

Here is the thing most people exceed the RECOMMENDED SETTINGS and still lags like mad.


Thats funny because i havent installed the GTX 580 because im waiting for 6gb of ram before install it.However atm im using just a crappy Nvidia GT 240 videocard and i run it all on really high plus 1920x1680 resolution and it runs without lag..and my internet connection also blows really bad and yet i dont lag.
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