Is it really worth putting pieces of clothing with 0 worth in gold? Their Gold/Weight ratio would surely be 0, or very near 0.

I actually like it when I loot a corpse and choose "take all" and not getting random S*1* to my inventory. They'd have to have some sort of gameplay value, if they are not made to look cool in any way, then why bother?

While I agree that some stuff might look cool on our character and fit our role play perspective better than any other armor in the game, such as lich clothing, do we really have to be able to pick them up from them? I'd rather have liches crumble to dust alog with everything they have but the staff if it would bother me so much that I can't pick the piece of clothing of the body.

Instead of being able to pick up pieces of cr4*, we could have this wierdo merchant who is like half zombie or something that sells all these random pieces of worthless chunk to us for a high price. There we could have all thse garbage clothing for you to get, leave the pants on the Ogre, I don't want them in my inventory.

That is not what he is talking about. He wants it so if he kills a Elf wandering around in the woods with elven armor on, to be able to loot all the armor the elf had once he kills them. I agree, makes sense to me. If it dies you should be able to take everything that was on there including their armor. I can understand if lore prevents it like someone mentioned that the armor of deadra, I believe that's who he said, is part of their skin so you couldn't remove that. Or say you kill a lich and he crumbles to dust and with him his robes so that would also make sense. However for the most part I agree with the OP I wouldn't mind seeing full loot on dead creatures. If it's not against the lore EG attached to their skin or something I should be able to take it if I want.

Uh...if you find an elf wandering around with elven armor, you DO get to take it all. What this thread is about is special armor, like lich robes, the robes of the emporor, Dagoth Ur's mask from Morrowind, the undergarments of zombies (really? Who wants that nasty stuff...) etc. Opponents that are of the player races can be looted down to their drawers, but special creatures wear special equipment for a reason.

When I first saw that dead goblin in Oblivion the first thing I thought was "Hell, I'm looting this!" it made me so sad that I couldn't do it... please Bethesda atleast make humanoid creatures lootable...

Um... the f... ? Since when has WoW allowed you to loot MORE armor than Oblivion ? I think you are just trying to banter the OP for no reason. And he was talking about on the creatures or NPC′s he sees wearing the items, for example the guards at the middle of the Imperial city had armor you could not loot even if you saw them wearing it.

Next time you post at least try to read what the post is about...

+1

What? You wanted to take her dress?
1. Then she would be naked (things that scare away customers) unless she wore a double set ofcourse (which would break from what they do with NPCs).
2. If you havnt noticed goblins are smaller than you, it wouldnt fit.
3. You could loot the rest of the stuff she had, just not the clothes.

While I understand the wish to loot anything not nailed down (and sometimes stuff that is), there were certain limitations. As to the Emperor's Robes and the Guard Uniforms I'm guessing it was a conscious choice by the developers to make them npc-only. The armor from undead/goblins/etc was a model limitation as the model was created with the armor pieces being part of the model. Same thing in Fallout New Vegas with the NCR Ghouls. I'm guessing they did not want the player to loot the items as it would look silly seeing the corpse still wearing them on its model afterwards.

For the Dremora it was fitting that the player could not loot their armor as it is in fact their skin. That is why I was somewhat disappointed when the armor from Valkynaz could be looted normally as this went against the lore. Not to mention the fact of suddenly having 40+ full sets of Daedric Armor in my chests at level 20.

So unless we're going to see some form of dynamic stacking of armor on all creatures, I fear we will have to make do with not being able to loot everything from dead creatures.

Actually you can do it all with mods, unless you an console gamer

This makes a lot of sense. Like the akaviri armor and weapons in pale pass being junk.

Probably because they only have a male mesh, other reason might be balance

Demora armor might not fit, but yes they could just added something who look plainer than daeric armor and give it steel stats and let you loot it.

Other stuff like goblin armor would obviously not fit so it would be scrap metal, so yes you could take it and melt it in a forge.

Craftybits let you skin creatures from rats to daedrots and minotaurs and let you make armor of them who is an aditional use.
Most creatures would also be eatable.

TES was particular in a way that : what the enemy wears is what you can loot, most of the times.
Look closer to other games, only a few have this feature too. Most of them you just loot boots out of rats, guns out of squirrel asses and don't even think of loot the god awesome looking armor from that guy.
So the more it's TES like, the more i like TES.

Agreed 100%! Although nasty, I would like to strip the undead of their armor and the goblins of their crude armor/clothing; I mean you dont HAVE to loot 'em but some people would like to(ppl like myself and the OP).
Some of that stuff could be used simply as a trophy(that you could wear of course) like Dagoth Ur's mask.
(also, goblins are not THAT small, most of the stuff could be worn by the player if he felt like it, besides, we do have one size fits all armors dont we?)

Haven't taken the time to read the entire thread, but my opinion on a few items

Goblin armor wouldn't fit properly

Skeleton and undead armor is old, decayed and rotten. In other words, not worth picking up.

Loincloths: what is this, i dont even...why bother? Waste of precious development time imo.

Non-humanoid armor: obviously difficult to fit

I was playing NWN and saw an enemy with a really cool weapon. I thought "That's gonna be mine when I kill ya!" And yet, no! All I got was a lootbag with a few measly gold coins and a potion.

Part of what I love about TES is that I can interact with almost all of the world. I can pick up candles, I can climb on roofs, I hop on top of rocks and climb mountains - and if a creature or NPC has something in their inventory (equipped or unequipped) it is fair game for stealing or looting. No inexplicable "I can see it but I'm not allowed to touch it."

I've seen a lot of 'Goblins Armor Wouldn't Fit' and 'Eeew... Ghoul Undies!!!'... but thankfully, someone in a previous post pointed out the truth:


The Elder Scrolls has one-size-fits-all armor and clothing. It's not relevant whether or not the Goblin is big enough (and they -are- by the way. They're hunched over, but they're right about normal 5-foot size. This 'too small' business don't hold water.

The -real- issue is, as stated, the creatures are created with the armor on them. At least, they are in Oblivion and Morrowind.

So in order to take it off, you'd either need to somehow make the creature equip armor and weapons and the like (and display it)... or convince the developers that you don't care whether or not the armor shows up.

Either way... meh.

I'd take it, if I could. If I can't... I won't feel too upset about it.

1. Humans had underwear as part of their skin so why not goblins?
2. So? Just because something doesn't fit doesn't mean I can't wear it.
3. This is the only thing you got right...
...keep up the good work. :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

I remember being especially upset by this.