I want taverns in Skyrim to become ALIVE!

Post » Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:05 am

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Maybe we just want taverns especially because they are the only part of the game that is lacking in being "alive".

Our opinions are disgusting, but your the one suggesting that caves and ruins should be more "alive"? Seriously?
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Post » Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:06 am

Have you seen this ?

The Vulgar Unicorn
http://www.viddler.com/explore/StratonAce/videos/2/

Bonus (Snow Elves)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3MJhHQbVIM&fmt=22
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Post » Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:28 pm

Adding npcs playing music would be a treat!


There was an NPC playing a lute in the gameplay trailer
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Post » Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:23 pm

Taverns are a major part of the game now. Its how u pick up topics missions and how to get info on certain people...well thats wat gameinformer said
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Post » Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:29 am

Awesome mod, a little over the top though

It reminds me a bit of a pub in Ullapool, Scotland that I've forgotten the name of. Great night.


It would be interesting if you got missions from people after you've been a while in the tavern. Like, some local comes over drunk to commiserate with some random he's seen drinking at the bar about the *insert cliché* that have been bothering him lately. You can offer to help for some gold or just out of the goodness of your heart. Or you can slap him about for bothering the greatest warrior of his time with his trivial problems. BAR FIGHT!!!!


At least that's how I hope they'll have tavern missions. I really hope you don't just walk in and say "Anyone need any help with something?"
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Post » Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:16 am

Maybe we just want taverns especially because they are the only part of the game that is lacking in being "alive".

Our opinions are disgusting, but your the one suggesting that caves and ruins should be more "alive"? Seriously?


There are no original or exceptionally good ideas in here.

Quests in taverns. Done. Its been in previous games, so its likely to make a return.
More lively, believable taverns. The radiant AI is supposed to help immensely with this. Taverns have been confirmed to play a bigger role.
People playing games, music, etc in taverns. Confirmed in the gameplay trailer.
Fights havent been confirmed, but have been in other video games. Overall, a poor, boring feature that gets old quick.
Taverns being cozy, etc. Confirmed by trailer and screenshots.

I'll tell you what. I'll stop posting here, you keep writing letters to SANTA CLAUSE Bethesda and I'll mind my own business.
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Post » Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:17 pm

The taverns in Morrowind and Oblivion was never really that exciting. I think this is something Bethesda should do something about. When I walk into a tavern, I want it to be alive, not just a few random boring NPC's sitting att a table talking about the weather. I want taverns to be a place where you can find all kinds of interesting peoples. Where you can talk to Mercenaries about battles and job offers. Where you can listen to drunken conversations, and sometimes pick up unique info. I want it to be music, drunken nords hitting on the waitress and getting denied and being kicked out by the owner. I want to see scary looking npc's sitting in dark corners and talk about criminal activities. If you walk into the wrong tavern(owned by evil factions or something) you have to be on guard to avoid trouble, or make trouble. Off couse this is not the case if you are a professional bar brawler ^^ But offcourse there should be nice and cozy taverns too, just make the place alive Bethesda :)


Totally agree with you.
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Post » Mon Apr 11, 2011 1:45 am

I still feel like you guys are missing the point. One person even argued that the game should NOT feel alive, but only taverns.... simply disgusting opinions.

This thread is pointless and losing steam fast. I'll say it again. The GAME needs to feel alive. Once the game feels alive, so will taverns. Because, they are part of the game, correct? Bethesda has all but confirmed that we will see more alive towns and interactions with NPC's. So the things you are asking for, have pretty much already been confirmed.

I honestly think you guys spend way to much time in taverns. Even if they felt like the most realistic place in the game, I still wouldnt spend much time there, other than to get my quest and GTF out of there. Seriously what is there to do? Get in a bar fight? RDR had this. It failed miserable. Drink? Many games have had this, and it gets old very quick. Watch other people dance and sing and drink? WTF? Does that really sound like fun? These are fun features that the first time you play through you say, oooh neat. After that, you dont even notice them.

I dont want anything to do with a tavern, not because I dont like them. Because this game isnt about taverns, its about exploring the wilderness and living the life I cant in real life. If I hung around in the tavern, I may as well shut the game off and go to the bar.


To make the taverns more realistic, you should get thrown out if you arent doing anything but hanging around like a creep.

I personally have enjoyed reading all these wonderful ideas from this thread. I've always thought it would be neat for the taverns to be a little more lively, it wouldn't take a massive overhaul of the Elder Scrolls for this to happen, just some little touches to make the experience a little more... intimate. That's fine if you play the game and don't want anything to do with the taverns/inns, but I think there are alot of great ideas here. Just a little music, people playing music, people dancing or singing, that wouldn't be hard to do at all, they wouldn't have to recreate the entire game.

All of the posts I read weren't implying that the taverns will now be the ultimate focus of The Elder Scrolls, that the entire game will be centered on the taverns.
If you don't want anything to do with taverns or the idea of them becoming more lively: don't crash the thread, these people are having a good time coming up with a lot of really good ideas that would only expand the experience in a good way.

Have a good day! :biggrin:
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Post » Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:50 pm

It would be awesome to see a fight in a tavern, and have guards come in and drag people out!

Taverns should be packed at night, and "normal" capacity during the day.

I mean, c'mon. You have the serious aspects already like working, fighting, conversations. Even the NPC's need a little down time to loosen up don't you think? It makes sense, or else NPC's just seem like mindless drone, pawns.
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Post » Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:26 pm

I've never played a game that got taverns right, but yes they should be more alive.
Which is vital with Skyrims atmosphere. Where else will I go at the end of a long day of hauling loot out of a cave after slaying the dragon? Where else will I enjoy my mead with the warm and welcoming and sometimes hostile atmosphere of a tavern?

So yes, it would be nice.
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Post » Mon Apr 11, 2011 1:00 am

In the gameplay trailer it showed a tavern with someone playing an instrument that looked like a lute
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Post » Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:18 pm

^ It's a kind of lyre.

I wonder if that Elf woman seated in there is a prosttute but she seems to wear a leather armor or something like that, so it's unlikely.
Btw I hope there will be some prosttute around, at least for the presence, that fits just fine in a tavern.
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Post » Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:12 pm

Btw I hope there will be some prosttute around, at least for the presence, that fits just fine in a tavern.


Mods will add those soon enough, but they probably won't be just for presence. =P

Have you seen this ?

The Vulgar Unicorn


That was pretty sweet. Some of it was a bit overdone -- the armor mods, mostly -- but it's a very lively tavern! Alas, since Skyrim is supposed to be all gritty, I wonder if we'll see any of that.
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Post » Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:20 pm

There are no original or exceptionally good ideas in here.

Quests in taverns. Done. Its been in previous games, so its likely to make a return.
More lively, believable taverns. The radiant AI is supposed to help immensely with this. Taverns have been confirmed to play a bigger role.
People playing games, music, etc in taverns. Confirmed in the gameplay trailer.
Fights havent been confirmed, but have been in other video games. Overall, a poor, boring feature that gets old quick.
Taverns being cozy, etc. Confirmed by trailer and screenshots.

I'll tell you what. I'll stop posting here, you keep writing letters to SANTA CLAUSE Bethesda and I'll mind my own business.

No, your right. I'm completely stoked about how the taverns look in Skyrim.

I accidentally referred to the past games as "the game" making you think I was talking about Skyrim.
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Post » Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:50 pm

No, your right. I'm completely stoked about how the taverns look in Skyrim.

I accidentally referred to the past games as "the game" making you think I was talking about Skyrim.


Fair enough. I think the graphics look absolutely incredible. I have no worries about this game. Sometimes the anticipation turns to frustration :unsure:
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Post » Mon Apr 11, 2011 1:03 am

The taverns in Morrowind and Oblivion was never really that exciting. I think this is something Bethesda should do something about. When I walk into a tavern, I want it to be alive, not just a few random boring NPC's sitting att a table talking about the weather. I want taverns to be a place where you can find all kinds of interesting peoples. Where you can talk to Mercenaries about battles and job offers. Where you can listen to drunken conversations, and sometimes pick up unique info. I want it to be music, drunken nords hitting on the waitress and getting denied and being kicked out by the owner. I want to see scary looking npc's sitting in dark corners and talk about criminal activities. If you walk into the wrong tavern(owned by evil factions or something) you have to be on guard to avoid trouble, or make trouble. Off couse this is not the case if you are a professional bar brawler ^^ But offcourse there should be nice and cozy taverns too, just make the place alive Bethesda :)


I completely agree. We're in the freaking Nord lands. The taverns should be at the center of their culture. I want to hear some good drinking songs
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Post » Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:50 pm

Maybe we just want taverns especially because they are the only part of the game that is lacking in being "alive".

Our opinions are disgusting, but your the one suggesting that caves and ruins should be more "alive"? Seriously?


what i dont get is how you can say that this is the one thing lacking of A GAME THAT HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED, NOR OF WHICH ANY SUBSTANTIAL INFO HAS BEEN RELEASED.
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Post » Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:41 pm

what i dont get is how you can say that this is the one thing lacking of A GAME THAT HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED, NOR OF WHICH ANY SUBSTANTIAL INFO HAS BEEN RELEASED.

Are they? I thought they were saying that's how it has been in past games and they're hoping it will be better in Skyrim.
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Post » Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:26 am

Oh, well nice information... that would have sufficed


Logical, I see. Ok, but has anything that we've been discussing confirmed anywhere? Care to share any links to back up your logic?


You know some of us have used the seach function and went through many topics and posts. If you have an enlightenment with a reference in the form of a link, that would really help. I cannot say logically that taverns will be more 'alive', and I'm certainly not going to make assumptions based on your logic. I don't feel like going through the 13 or so pages of threads when searching Tavern a second time. So if you've found anything in the search, please provide something other than logic please.


Logic doesnt need any reference. Its obvious that if taverns are now going to be important in how you get information, that they'll work to make that key aspect of information getting feel appropriate.
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Post » Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:25 pm

Have you seen this ?

The Vulgar Unicorn
http://www.viddler.com/explore/StratonAce/videos/2/



I loved being able to hear the music as you turned the corner and the drunk outside.
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Post » Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:54 pm

I still feel like you guys are missing the point. One person even argued that the game should NOT feel alive, but only taverns.... simply disgusting opinions.

This thread is pointless and losing steam fast. I'll say it again. The GAME needs to feel alive. Once the game feels alive, so will taverns. Because, they are part of the game, correct? Bethesda has all but confirmed that we will see more alive towns and interactions with NPC's. So the things you are asking for, have pretty much already been confirmed.

I honestly think you guys spend way to much time in taverns. Even if they felt like the most realistic place in the game, I still wouldnt spend much time there, other than to get my quest and GTF out of there. Seriously what is there to do? Get in a bar fight? RDR had this. It failed miserable. Drink? Many games have had this, and it gets old very quick. Watch other people dance and sing and drink? WTF? Does that really sound like fun? These are fun features that the first time you play through you say, oooh neat. After that, you dont even notice them.

I dont want anything to do with a tavern, not because I dont like them. Because this game isnt about taverns, its about exploring the wilderness and living the life I cant in real life. If I hung around in the tavern, I may as well shut the game off and go to the bar.


To make the taverns more realistic, you should get thrown out if you arent doing anything but hanging around like a creep.


All we're saying is that taverns should not be as static as someones house. Lets take Drarayne Thelas - she should always be in her house by a certain time with little variation - however a tavern is a common meeting place and should have different people there at different times. Especially those who're looking to hire an adventurer.
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Post » Mon Apr 11, 2011 4:04 am

I still feel like you guys are missing the point. One person even argued that the game should NOT feel alive, but only taverns.... simply disgusting opinions.

This thread is pointless and losing steam fast. I'll say it again. The GAME needs to feel alive. Once the game feels alive, so will taverns. Because, they are part of the game, correct? Bethesda has all but confirmed that we will see more alive towns and interactions with NPC's. So the things you are asking for, have pretty much already been confirmed.

I honestly think you guys spend way to much time in taverns. Even if they felt like the most realistic place in the game, I still wouldnt spend much time there, other than to get my quest and GTF out of there. Seriously what is there to do? Get in a bar fight? RDR had this. It failed miserable. Drink? Many games have had this, and it gets old very quick. Watch other people dance and sing and drink? WTF? Does that really sound like fun? These are fun features that the first time you play through you say, oooh neat. After that, you dont even notice them.

I dont want anything to do with a tavern, not because I dont like them. Because this game isnt about taverns, its about exploring the wilderness and living the life I cant in real life. If I hung around in the tavern, I may as well shut the game off and go to the bar.


To make the taverns more realistic, you should get thrown out if you arent doing anything but hanging around like a creep.



Hey man, don't hold back! Next time, why don't you tell us how you really feel? ... :rofl:
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Post » Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:50 pm

Adding npcs playing music would be a treat!

Done you can see it in the trailer in the background at an assassination scene.

Nords like to drink. of course they should be lively as hell! i want them to focus more on taverns than on shops this time.
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Post » Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:06 pm

Def agree with you on this one man. I hope you can get drunk too haha
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Post » Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:05 pm

I want a tavern where you can enter mudcrab fighting contests. Train your mudcrab and beat the crap out of others!
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