This.

People are aware of the fact that children have been confirmed. They're only commenting that they don't want to have any of their own in the game.

Have children of my own? Don't care.

The ability to own children.. Yep most definitely. My guy was in jail for a reason by golly.

leave that to the fables of the world.

This. It's about finding a medium ground between playability and emotional attachment.

If you make the damn thing too simple, then nobody gives a damn about the kid or the mother (or the father, if your character is the mother)... and the whole family just becomes another undeveloped sink-hole of time and effort. But if you go too far the other way, then people feel more bogged down by the family and home than they do connected to it, and you wind up with players becoming resentful towards the spouse and child(ren).



This is a fair argument... one which at least makes sense, albeit that sense is one of selfishness.



You -do- know that there are plenty of very gallant and heroic explorers all throughout human history who have had wives and families and lives beyond just being 'That guy who went there and saw this thing'. Many of the greatest warriors of all time were inspired to fight in order to defend the ones they loved. (Yes, love... I know... how un-warriorly, right?)

As for your comments on how the children would come about... there are plenty of ways to work it out. Assuming that you were actually planning to consider it. What you have done, instead, is create a non-point... by simply disregarding all possibilities as bad.

And then you have the gall to insult us by telling us to get a life? Dismissed.



Dear sir/madame: I'm truly deeply sorry... but you've not made any point.

Your comment provides no insight or meaningful contribution to the discussion at hand. You arbitrarily reference another, very popular game franchise in an attempt (albeit a failed and long-since-original way) to discredit the idea. If I have a book, then I ought to be able to read it. A system that adequately can age the player over the course of years? Why not? They already have a system that can age the face... all it would take is making it so that the actual BODY could grow in size (and age in texture). If you feel this is 'too much' and 'exaggerated'... then I regret to inform you but, you're incorrect.

It happens to the best of us.

PS: Whenever you begin an argument with "What all you (insert stereotype here) want..." as your first words, you've already lost.

Sincerely,
The Colonel.



I agree with you.

I think it would almost exclusively need to be done in mods. But then again, this is the General Discussion forum... so if we want to work out what would need to be included in such a mod, this would be precisely the place to do it. Discussion among intelligent individuals is precisely the way that big, new, and exciting things get done. If you have ideas about how you think it could be done, or what it would take to make it work... this is the place to share them. Without this kind of input, nobody really has a leg to stand on when it comes to making something like this happen.

It really stopped being about Bethesda doing this on the first page or two. We all know it wouldn't really happen.

Now it's just the difficult process of running off the folks who make it impossible to discuss the idea rationally, so that an actual conversation can be had.

Thanks for contributing!



Sorry for being so direct... but your reply is kinda stupid. Though you can feel free to mod it out, it 100% won't contribute anything to the discussion or the topic.



Awesome story, mate!

I work with a few guys I knew back in my young adventurer days. One of them is this vampire... but he's pretty cool. He's got a fairly good grip on his habit... and so long as we keep him fed, he doesn't draw much attention from the local hunters.



I think I'll be a bit too busy correcting spelling and pointing out poorly-formulated arguments (or lack thereof, since this isn't really an argument, but a statement about a completely separate game with absolutely no relevance to The Elder Scrolls what-so-ever). Capitalize "I"... add an apostrophe. I'm. I'm playing. Also, Fable is capitalized.

Cheers.



Your experience with Fable 2 doesn't really apply, here... as this is not Fable. It's Bethesda's baby, The Elder Scrolls.

While you can rest assured that it won't actually happen, the fact of the matter is that if it ever -does-... it will no doubt be done in a way which actively makes the game entertaining. Otherwise, it'll get cut out. (Like spears, apparently, the bastards...)


Anyhow, I've addressed everything up to this point, I think? Yes... good!

Excellent.

I'll pop back in a bit later, hopefully with some more thoughts on ways to make the whole thing work without sacrificing playability.

In a way yes but Bethesda dosn't have unlimited time and resources, that is simply a fact. If they did add something like that, it would mean something else would be left out, something i might like. There is no logical reason to wish for something you don't want just because others might like it. You can't please everyone and Bethesda shouldn't try.

Have to say I'm against the idea. I really hope the game doesn't have kids at all really. There absence in Oblivion never really bothered me, but there implementation in Fallout was rather irritating. Why? Because here you have weak young children, with godlike invincibility. It's not that I had any desire to kill children in the game in the first place, but knowing that they were unlike the rest of the characters due to this aspect was distracting. Long story short, no children is better than an implementation of children that sacrifices immersion.

Would Kahjiit have a litter, or kittens?

Would never want kids in real life, so why would I want them in my perfect fantasy world that is the land of Skyrim... Nope, nuh uh, definitely not.

Ok my former post I didn't explained why I said no.

I'll do it on this one.

Wouldn't it be weird for someone that doesn't have a home and sleeps at inns or random caves to have a family with little kids ?
Even if you get the kid later on,when you already have a house to stay,wouldn't it feel fake if you just go exploring the world for days,months or even years without seeing your family ?
If making kids have to be added,then I hope it's something that it will not be forced to do.
Perhaps then I will make a family in-game after I've completed all the other quests the game has,and there is nothing else to do.

Who honestly thinks that this is something that would be -forced- on the player?

Is that what this is about? Is there some memo going around that the player HAS to have kids if the ability to have them is in the game, and I missed it? That's ridiculous! That's like saying I would 'HAVE' to use a spear, if they were included in the game. It's nonsensical to think that that would even be considered. Obviously, if the player had the option to have a family and kids and whatever else there was, it would be an OPTION.

As in you pretty much have to -choose- to do so... and the consequences of what happens afterwards are entirely on your own shoulders.

The title of the thread is "do u want the ablility to have your own children in skyrim?"

Ability isn't synonymous with mandatory. Having child NPCs in the game is confirmed; they *will* be in the game. I think it possible the reason Bethesda started putting children in their games was because players noticed how odd it was when NPCs seemed to have just appeared from nowhere as full grown advlts. Just as some of us feel it is rather odd that heroes can't have families . . . yet. Why do heroes always have to be orphans without siblings, even? Some games are currently experimenting with relationships. If that works out financially for them, I would imagine the money will point toward families as well.

The point is, those of us who answer the original post with a "yes" aren't suggesting it become mandatory for everyone. We just think it would be a cool option for *us* to have and would like to explore the possibilities.

For that matter, I personally think this was a cool discussion for us to have, which is why I didn't just answer with one word and go on to another thread.

Hell no

Meh...I probably wouldn't use it. Not to say that it shouldn't be in...just saying I wouldn't use it.

Question though...if you can have kids...would they have the same super powers we do?

Don't be so sure about that. Just because you want relationships in your rpgs dosn't necessarily also mean that you want the ability to have kids. Personaly i think the romances in Dragon Age and Mass Effect was well writen and added something to the roleplaying aspect of the games and i wouldn't mind seeing something similar in TES but i have less than no desire to start an in game family.

The truth is, I tried it. There are a few mods for Morrowind which actually make it possible, as Princess_Stomper mentioned. I played it, I enjoyed it, but you're absolutely right, I wouldn't want that for *every* character I play. At one point I had a house, a husband and two babies, one I adopted and one my character actually was pregnant with (via clothing) and gave birth to (fade to black). It was an aspect of the game I'd never tried and it took me hours of gameplay to get that relationship stable. Honestly, I haven't played those mods since.

To each his/her own.

I don't want to feel like it is being forced towards me, and then there is of course the 9 months waiting unless TES universe has a different kind of growing up.

I just want to say one thing, if a female character does have to go through pregnancy, and all that, fine it makes it more realistic, even though I'm not playing as female. If you don't want to go through pregnancy, then don't have intercourse, its so obvious, you have the same choice in real life. If you want to (censored) somebody, but have no children, as a female, then maybe they should add condems or something. There, problem solved, well I think so.

huge waste of time (both play and development), imo.

and besides children are only fun when you can give them back to their parents.

While I don't hate the idea, I don't think it'd be handled in a way that would satisfy me.

Children would no doubt be handled like Fallout, and I think I speak for everyone when I say that we hate essential characters, but to that effect, Bethesda arn't going to make a child-murder simulator.

So if children are essential, I'd rather see them left as ambiance as I feel that children would make the world feel more alive, but not drawing too much attention to them would help us forget about them being essential.

Now if this is the way it is, having children would be pretty much the same as Fable, which is pretty pointless in the end.

If children were implemented in the way I'd like to see them, they would come on adventures with me and I'd teach them about combat and the world, but with them being essential, that wouldn't work very well.

So I'm gonna have to vote no.

I'm pretty sure that the ability to procreate should be left to games like Fable. In Fable you start out as a child and grow older, you can marry, have six and have kids. TES games are based around an ADVENTURE, not a LIFE. So No ¹⁰.
Gimmicks like this would ruin TES.

i think it sounds really good!

Finally, another person who likes the idea. :foodndrink:

If they put in the ability to have children I should be able to sell them into slavery! They will sew Nike brand pantaloons and you will all buy them for outrageous sums.

Yep, quite so.