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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:56 pm

This can now be shut down RP is posted
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:56 am

This can now be shut down RP is posted

Not so fast! It's not even Friday, why did you go ahead and do that? We are nowhere near ready, and based on your other posts we have a lot to work out.

First off, this is a war RP, not an adventure RP. Thus, it is set everywhere, not just Cyrodiil. Putting a war just in Cyrodiil when only two factions are attacking them is senseless. Did you even read the updated timeline? I hate to sound mean, but this is getting out of hand. And please be careful with the Emperor, this is a war RP, and he has the most powerful army right now.


Well if nobody wants it, I believe I'll take Elysana for the time being as well as some minor "filler" characters that will just be a part of her CS or something.

@Darkom:



Do you mean Bravil, or perhaps Anvil, which would make a little more sense as its on the western coast?

I think Wayrest is open, so go ahead.

:shrug: It was really late when I wrote that, so Anvil works. Sorry, I'll change it soon.

BTW, the whole RP will take place in Cyrodiil no were else.


Already pointed out how this is a bad idea, just wanted to clarify. Once more, it is not an adventure RP. Only the Freedom Fighter's (by the way, I advise a name change. Perhaps "The New Empire", run by a competitor for the throne, a real Septim. Just an idea.

Alright, well, at least before you make your sheet, it would be nice to know what faction or/ person in a faction you are taking first, that way we can get organized.


Before you make your sheet, let me finish the dang timeline. The bios need to be centered around the timeline, they are all probably going to be pre-made characters if you're going for Kings and such. You can make stuff up, yes, but it needs to make sense with the current conflicts.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:26 am

Already pointed out how this is a bad idea, just wanted to clarify. Once more, it is not an adventure RP. Only the Freedom Fighter's (by the way, I advise a name change. Perhaps "The New Empire", run by a competitor for the throne, a real Septim. Just an idea.


What do you mean that is a bad idea? The RP was always supposed to be set in Cyrodiil or else it would just be to big and people would have no idea what was going. And the Freedom Fighters are not adventures they are a rebel group trying to take out the Empire, they have a base south of Cheydinhal and they are making advances to the Imperial City. And the Septim bloodline was eliminated when Martin died, bringing it back would go against all of the lore.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:56 am

Korvinus is a political guy, you've been given a chance at peace with this guy, its recommended you take it. He is with the Imperial Throne (to control the Emperor for his own personal desires) I prefer politics to warfare, but can do either.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:16 am

What do you mean that is a bad idea? The RP was always supposed to be set in Cyrodiil or else it would just be to big and people would have no idea what was going. And the Freedom Fighters are not adventures they are a rebel group trying to take out the Empire, they have a base south of Cheydinhal and they are making advances to the Imperial City. And the Septim bloodline was eliminated when Martin died, bringing it back would go against all of the lore.


The RP is a good idea, the war part of it that is. In case you did not notice, the whole of the RP has changed. I thought I made that clear when I repeatedly said how this is a political RP. I had thought you agreed with me, and were going along with the idea. War RPs don't have that problem, just look at the RPs Immortal Blood has been doing. Wooly can explain this better than I can.

You can do your own thing with the "Freedom Fighters", or whatever you want to call them, but it would have been nice to know this about a week ago. It would also have been good if you had pointed out the Cheydinhal thing, because I already made something up about Leyawiin since I had no input from your end.

Thing is, it doesn't go against lore, because during the course of the Septim line the Emperor's had many many "partners", and many more children. These children would have children, and they would know throughout the ages they are descended of royal blood. I don't know why none of them were mentioned during Oblivion after Martin died, but I'll put that to game mechanics. No lore says explicitly that "There are no more Septims, anywhere." In fact, Illusionary's last RP was based on just that principle (Find a New Emperor, if you want to look it up. I had a great time playing the Gray Fox, one of my first real RPs)

Korvinus is a political guy, you've been given a chance at peace with this guy, its recommended you take it. He is with the Imperial Throne (to control the Emperor for his own personal desires) I prefer politics to warfare, but can do either.


Not quite sure who Korvinus is, but I'm guessing it's your character. Thanks for doing a political character then, as requested. He can be with the Empire, sure, but know that the Emperor is well guarded and isn't going to give up power easily. You can join the Dragon's Claw if you want, they have the potential for overthrowing the Emperor. Just offering, you can do whatever you'd like with your character. Thanks again :goodjob:
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:17 am

The RP is a good idea, the war part of it that is. In case you did not notice, the whole of the RP has changed. I thought I made that clear when I repeatedly said how this is a political RP. I had thought you agreed with me, and were going along with the idea. War RPs don't have that problem, just look at the RPs Immortal Blood has been doing. Wooly can explain this better than I can.

You can do your own thing with the "Freedom Fighters", or whatever you want to call them, but it would have been nice to know this about a week ago. It would also have been good if you had pointed out the Cheydinhal thing, because I already made something up about Leyawiin since I had no input from your end.


It still is a political RP but I thought that the Freedom Fighters were always just a group of Rebels trying to get rid of the Emperor in no "political" way at all. Everything else was going to be political but the Freedom Fighters were always just fighters. But give me your idea on what you wanted them to be.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:42 am

:facepalm: I wasn't talking about the Freedom Fighters then. You said the whole of the RP was in Cyrodiil, which would apply to the Freedom Fighters, but no one else. I guess I misread you there, and by adventure I meant as opposed to political, meaning just like a normal RP. You have the Freedom Fighters (still reccomend a name change, by the way) to do with as you will, and their planning is pretty much done. I'm not really talking about them anymore :shrug: That's your thing, I believe.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:44 pm

:facepalm: I wasn't talking about the Freedom Fighters then. You said the whole of the RP was in Cyrodiil, which would apply to the Freedom Fighters, but no one else. I guess I misread you there, and by adventure I meant as opposed to political, meaning just like a normal RP. You have the Freedom Fighters (still reccomend a name change, by the way) to do with as you will, and their planning is pretty much done. I'm not really talking about them anymore :shrug: That's your thing, I believe.

Alright, well what other names do you have in mind, and I thought that all those factions were in Cyrodiil for the war?
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:09 am

Alright, well what other names do you have in mind, and I thought that all those factions were in Cyrodiil for the war?


The one I gave right in my post up there... My favorite was "The True Empire", led by a real Septim. I thought it added a little something to the Freedom Fighters.

And no, the timeline states specifically that Skyrim is at war only in High Rock and Hammerfell, Morrowind only in Argonia, with only the Altmer, Bosmer, and Khajiit having any fighting in Cyrodiil. And even then, some fighting hasn't started just yet.


Anyway, I have a new idea that Lady Nerevar suggested. She said that it would be more interesting to just start the RP after the first racial decree by the Emperor, and have each country follow the rough guideline of the timeline. That way the events followed could be more natural, the players have more creativity, and everyone knows what has happened without always going back to the timeline. I think it is a good idea, and it could really work well. Let me know what you think, and I'll start drawing up a rough plan of what the OP will be (the final version, being I won't have to deal with as much lore). Thanks.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:26 pm

The one I gave right in my post up there... My favorite was "The True Empire", led by a real Septim. I thought it added a little something to the Freedom Fighters.

And no, the timeline states specifically that Skyrim is at war only in High Rock and Hammerfell, Morrowind only in Argonia, with only the Altmer, Bosmer, and Khajiit having any fighting in Cyrodiil. And even then, some fighting hasn't started just yet.


Anyway, I have a new idea that Lady Nerevar suggested. She said that it would be more interesting to just start the RP after the first racial decree by the Emperor, and have each country follow the rough guideline of the timeline. That way the events followed could be more natural, the players have more creativity, and everyone knows what has happened without always going back to the timeline. I think it is a good idea, and it could really work well. Let me know what you think, and I'll start drawing up a rough plan of what the OP will be (the final version, being I won't have to deal with as much lore). Thanks.

This. I believe it's the best decision Josh.

In a political rp it's nearly impossible to focus all the players on one province. There just aren't enough options, lore, or politics to be had. I believe Darkom's trying to say that with each province, there is basically only one or two conflicts involved. Aside from the Altmer, Bosmer, and Khajiit.
I do believe this is turning out a bit more stressful than we'd hoped. Still, we need to be patient, calm down, and let each other work.

I apologize Darkom. I told Josh to post the sign-up thread. I'd figured, by misreading Wooly, that you were prepared. I thought you'd already fixed the lore issues and Josh was anxious to post the thread. I figured we'd have it posted that night and people in different timezones could have a peek before we woke the next day and started it up. Once again, my apologies...

@Josh: In Morrowind, there was a Cult devoted to placing a worthy emperor on the throne. They worked through the legion. Perhaps we could use the name and I'll come up with some deep relevant lore for them. Their name was the Talos Cult.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:25 am

Ah, I see now what had happened, Dren. Thanks for letting me know, and I agree that this is a little too taxing. Let's just step back, calm down, and try this again tomorrow. The mods will gladly lock this thread (not yet though, for those of you reading with clickers at the ready on the big red button), and we can avoid undue confusion in the next one by having the OP done (which it will be, I promise). Thanks guys, this might work yet ;)
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:56 am

Damn it. I'm about to go crazy.

Josh, I highly suggest you let Dren, Darkom and I run through the character sheets first. Second, I suggest you let someone else do the Emperor.

People that have done this before should lead the main factions. Just let us guide you through this. I'll take Sentinel and Hammerfell, Dren will take the elves.

Darkom, I think you should take the Imperials and maybe BladeMaster can help you. He is good and experienced. I'm not being an elitist, but we need some experienced people running the main factions to let this survive. Some people are kind of pissed right now.

Lets start the RP right after the Emperor makes his decrees. I say let Darkom have the emperor and Blade controls the main legion man (and the army is fooled) named "Hector."

Then, the main action can take place wherever, and the Emperor chooses where to invade. Other nations will respond. The invading point will be the location of the RP.

We can't do a Tamriel wide one, and we can't RP realistically in one province with the Nords and Bretons going at it, the Dunmer and Argonians going at it, and the Emperor invading Elyswer and getting invaded by the elves. Then the Ra Gada are about to crap on Leyawin.


Lets do that. Decree > choose location.

It will be more simple and easier to uphold. Let us do the war-running. I say we do this.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:05 pm

Damn it. I'm about to go crazy.

Josh, I highly suggest you let Dren, Darkom and I run through the character sheets first. Second, I suggest you let someone else do the Emperor.

People that have done this before should lead the main factions. Just let us guide you through this. I'll take Sentinel and Hammerfell, Dren will take the elves.

Darkom, I think you should take the Imperials and maybe BladeMaster can help you. He is good and experienced. I'm not being an elitist, but we need some experienced people running the main factions to let this survive. Some people are kind of pissed right now.

Lets start the RP right after the Emperor makes his decrees. I say let Darkom have the emperor and Blade controls the main legion man (and the army is fooled) named "Hector."

Then, the main action can take place wherever, and the Emperor chooses where to invade. Other nations will respond. The invading point will be the location of the RP.

We can't do a Tamriel wide one, and we can't RP realistically in one province with the Nords and Bretons going at it, the Dunmer and Argonians going at it, and the Emperor invading Elyswer and getting invaded by the elves. Then the Ra Gada are about to crap on Leyawin.


Lets do that. Decree > choose location.

It will be more simple and easier to uphold. Let us do the war-running. I say we do this.

Alright, fine we will do that, but why can I not control the Emperor?
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:43 am

Sounds good Wooly, I know you know War RPs better than I. I was thinking the same thing, starting after the Emperor made his decrees, and letting each country evolve from that, nudging them every now and then with new information. I'm not quite sure how this works, but is there no way to have a world wide war? Perhaps split it into East and West, with two RPs that go into one another at times, letting the individual countries in each one taking a closer look at closer events, with Cyrodiil, Elsweyr, and Valenwood the only ones that really need to be concerned with both. Just an idea, it might not work out too well, but then again it might be a grand new way of doing things. I'll look at the Immortal Blood timeline to get a better idea of how to do this.

I hate to say it Josh, but I'm not sure whether you can run the Empire either. I don't want to be mean, or to tell you you're not good enough, but that is a big role, and would require a lot of time, effort, and knowledge. I can't say for time and effort, but I know your lore knowledge is not up to it as of yet. Heck, I doubt my knowledge is even up for it, but if no one else wants to I'd gladly try my best. It's your call, being it's ultimately your RP, but weigh your options carefully before deciding.

Thanks guys, and if you want to collaborate further on the plan, Wooly, we can talk via pm or MSN. Not right now, as I have things to do, but soon. I have all of Thanksgiving break off, so let me know when you're free. Thanks again.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:17 pm

Nevermind go ahead and control him.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:57 am

but soon. I have all of Thanksgiving break off, so let me know when you're free. Thanks again.


I shure we will have it all planed when the breck comes along more time = more thinking on things with out the preshure of school so our minds ant clouded by other things
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:53 am

And the Septim bloodline was eliminated when Martin


It wasn't. There are at least three branches, one of them holding a city in Morrowind, the other Tiber Septim's descendants in Skyrim, and there's one that was responsible for the murder of Katariah Ra'athim. The Septims have never really been descendants of Tiber Septim, anyway, the ones on the Imperial throne have always been related to him either by marriage or other connections.

Perhaps a better idea would be to have each person who wants to be the emperor's faction are one of these groups, rather than the one on the throne? If there's a civil war, the emperor isn't really that important.

Anyway, I've decided that I will join this, it looks like it needs as many experienced roleplayers as possible. I'm not sure I'll have that much free time, but I'll be able to do at least one big post every few days, and a lot of smaller ones. I just want to introduce the lovely lady who will represent my faction, http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk10/gallowglass_2008/ScreenShot756.jpg ;)
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:50 pm

Should I post my character sheet?
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:59 pm

Should I post my character sheet?

Yep, but in the blood & quill thread, and Darkom u can be Emperor .
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:46 am

Perhaps a better idea would be to have each person who wants to be the emperor's faction are one of these groups, rather than the one on the throne? If there's a civil war, the emperor isn't really that important.

Hmm, perhaps, but the current idea would have to change. I'll think about it, and add it to my list of changes.

Anyway, I've decided that I will join this, it looks like it needs as many experienced roleplayers as possible. I'm not sure I'll have that much free time, but I'll be able to do at least one big post every few days, and a lot of smaller ones. I just want to introduce the lovely lady who will represent my faction, http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk10/gallowglass_2008/ScreenShot756.jpg ;)

Excellent! We can wait on the sheets for a bit, and if you have any questions feel free to ask via pm. Thanks again :D



Yep, but in the blood & quill thread, and Darkom u can be Emperor .


Actually, I doubt I'll have the time to play three factions. This should last past Thanksgiving, and I won't have time then with Midterms coming up. If you want to, you can take the role back, and if you have any questions feel free to ask. Thanks.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:45 pm

Actually, I doubt I'll have the time to play three factions. This should last past Thanksgiving, and I won't have time then with Midterms coming up. If you want to, you can take the role back, and if you have any questions feel free to ask. Thanks.

Alright, I'll be EMPEROR MUAH HA HA HA!
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:03 pm

Josh can I be the Emperor's Advisor? I am a political character after all.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:09 pm

Josh can I be the Emperor's Advisor? I am a political character after all.

Why of course Zalphon! Someone as experienced as you deserves to be more then advisor!
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:48 am

No Emperor for me. If so I'd like to create my own Emperor.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:31 pm

No Emperor for me. If so I'd like to create my own Emperor.

Well, I think it would be best to stay as Emperor's adviser.
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