For anyone that is interested, here is my rough draft of some of the political background for the RP. I already sent a copy to Josh, and I expect he is reading them now, but I wanted to show everyone before I go to bed what I just spent an hour on



4E 1- The Oblivion crisis, along with the death of the Emperor and his sons, leaves the throne open. The Elder council elects a promising Imperial named Zeno Surus, without knowing of his hidden elitist agenda.

4E 2- After a brief time of peace and happiness throughout the land, Emperor Surus enacts a set of radical new laws, which take almost all power from the Elder Council and city officials, giving him supreme command of Cyrodiil. He makes an official alliance with the Dark Elves of Morrowind and their new leader, Imperial Nerevarine Baenius. The slave trade gains more support in Morrowind, many laws restricting its practice removed by the new leader.

4E 4- Emperor Sulus creates an elite branch of the Imperial Guard, the Dragon's Claw, which he uses as bodyguards and represantatives in other cities and countries.
Skyrim's economy is on the verge of collapse, with a severe increase in crime rates and poverty. Hrothgar and Whiterun have broken away, and are under control of Jsashe, self proclaimed priestess of Lorkhan. Skyrim officials ask for the Empire's assistance in this matter, and in short order the Dragon's Claw kills the upstart witch and gives control back to the Nords. As a sign of gratitude, the country has formed an alliance with Cyrodiil, strengthening trade and culture between the two countries. Solitude was declared as capital of Skyrim, ruled over by the Nordic Council.
The native tribes of the Black Marsh, under increased threat of slavery, have banded together into one universal government, and begun guerilla raids on bordering towns and Dunmer slaving parties.

4E 5- Morrowind has declared open war on Argonia, sending several armies out to combat the growing Argonian threat. In response, the Argonians have forged a tentative alliance with Elsweyr, who was also under pressure from increased slaving. The Khajiits have taken up arms against the Dunmer, mostly as reinforcements and naval raiding parties, freely trading their more advanced technology and government with the Black Marsh.
The Emperor has freely given many supplies and gold to the Nerevarine, but has not yet given any troops to the effort. Meanwhile, in Cyrodiil, Emperor Surus has removed all non-human members from any government functions, from Elder Council members to the lowest secretaries. Ocato has fled to the Summerset Isles, where he put his skills to use rising through the political ranks until he became Count of Alinor, capital of the Isles. From there he used his influences to negotiate an alliance with Valenwood, improving relations with the Bosmer dramatically.

4E 6- The Dunmer-Beast war, as it is now called, is still raging on, with neither side gaining considerable advantage. Skyrim has made an alliance with Morrowind on the grounds that Skyrim send troops down to Elsweyr within the next two years, a promise the Nordic council intends to keep.
High Rock and Hammerfell, threatened by the growing alliances, have formed together, with tensions running high on the Eastern border with Skyrim and Cyrodiil.
The Western Elven Alliance has grown in strength, military production at an all time high. Their relations with the High Rock/Hammerfell alliance are good, with increased trade strengthening both sides.

4E 8- Skyrim has declared war on the Southern State of Tamriel (Elsweyr and Argonia), taking the Khajiit cities of Riverhold and Rimmen, then subsequently giving the regions to Cyrodiil in exchange for a large sum of gold and more favorable trade agreements. Life has started to improve in Skyrim, and the local population could not be happier.
The Emperor has enacted a radical new set of laws, which he termed "The Great Acts of Eugenics". These would segregate all public buildings, with beast races and Altmer and Bosmer in considerably worse situations than the humans or Dunmer. Imperial land owners recieve large tax breaks, and a general elitist racism has fallen over the land. The Western Elven Alliance has spoken out against such a policy, but the Emperor has yet to change any of it. Slavery has also begun in Leyawiin and Cheydinhal, with the majority of servants traded from Morrowind, the original beast folk there still free, if in a considerably poor state. Mass emmigrations of the "unpure" races are ocurring all over Cyrodiil, after a large instance of the Dragon's Claw men [censored] and murdering "unpure" peoples. Even after great social and political unrest, the Emperor has refused to fire the men responsible.



Hope it wasn't too hard to read I wanted a comprehensive list of what each faction was doing, as well as logical responses and reasons for alliances. If any of it looks shaky, let me know so I can adjust it Thanks!

I'm also going to try and fit the Freedom Fighters in as a band of beast races and Western elf terrorists, striking back at the Imperial overlords.

Man, I just realized I completely stole your RP, Josh Sorry, let me know if you don't like some of the stuff, or want to downsize. I guess I got a little too excited

PS The RP itself will probably take place in the year 4E 10 or so, after slavery has spread throughout Cyrodiil, the Western Elven Alliance has loosely teamed up with the Southern State of Tamriell and the Republic of Illiac. Oh, how do you like the names for the factions, by the way Perhaps I am inspired by Medieval Total War a little too much.

Thank you Darkom you are simply awesome! I am glad we are doing this I am so excited!!! I cannot wait!

"RPs are not created great, we make them great"

-Me, just now. Good luck.

lol. Thanks Shadow!

You need war/political RP experience.

Actually he has Darkom and myself guiding him as of now. For this particular rp he asked for assistance. I'm sure the both of us have enough knowledge in lore and politics in TES to help him. If not we'll all watch the rp fall flat on it's face. It happens...

Josh im back from my extremely long weekend working for cash and this seems very good hope you make it =)

I am making it dont worry about that!

There needs to be a lot more detail: why, who, and how? Why would he do that? Who would oppose him, the named leaders, and who would support him? What would they do, and how would they go about doing it?

Just a few things about the suggestions, that are probably constructive, but I don't guarantee it:



A brief time of peace and happiness? When there are at least three wars, the collapse of the political system of traditionalist Morrowind and the threat of violence, and increasing amounts of support for Altmeri and Khajiit independence? With the Imperial Legion left without any good leaders, and no official instructions, but plenty of ambitious generals with money and connections?

How did that Imperial get into power in Morrowind? What happened? No Dunmer would accept an Imperial leader without a lot of objections, Helseth is about as far into Cyrodiil they'll look for their new radical ideas. Why didn't the slave trade have support, anyway?



The Khajiit and Argonians aren't friends. Both of them are trying to avoid more land being taken by the Imperials, and one of them is even involved in a war against the Empire that has the support of most of the northern tribes, as well as rich Imperial gangs with connections to the nobility.

The geography is also a bit weird; why would Skyrim declare war on Argonia (which would be a spectacular failure for the Nordic military, if basic military theory is taken into account here), and how would Morrowind raid Elsweyr? How would the Khajiit get to launch naval raids on Morrowind, when most of the empire's navy is in the east (it may still be in Black Marsh).

If you are reading the OP of this thread that is old me and Darkom and lord dren have came up with a new intro that will be posted in the sign up sheet that explains all of that/

Actually Gallowglass, it's impressive that you know so much about the Lore in TES. The only thing being that if you looked at the OP timeline you'd see it took place in the fourth era. The lore here is created almost entirely by the minds of Darkom, Josh, and myself. In fact, everything you're saying was considered. Josh wanted to add some of his own lore and Darkom kind of went a little nuts at getting a chance to pour some new lore into the story.
Its fine and dandy to ask questions, but too many questions can be a bit bothersome. It's best to leave some things to either explain themselves or let the imagination do the work. And as for some of the things you're saying, the rp will reveal motives and things of that matter.

Dren, Darkom, I think I will be helping you guys out now.

Im going to see if I can pull of a imperial good guy thats agenst slavery to show there is still some good imperials out there =)

There is a handfull of Imperials that are against the Empire but the majority love the power they get.

Wow, thanks Gallowglass, I had no idea about almost all that stuff! So, I'll just offer my response for each statement then:




I suppose you are right, but I didn't want to get too complicated in here. What wars are still going on again? I'll go into deeper detail with Morrowind then, explaining all about the Nerevarine and his rise to power. I'll add in more backstory with the new Emperor as well



Like I said, I'll make some stuff up to explain it. I'm thinking the Nerevarine took down the Tribunal and staged a bloody coup, taking over the government by force, with support from a few great houses. I'll delve very deep into that then I figured the slave trade had declined since the... I forget what it was called, but I think it was some treaty that allowed them to keep slaves with restrictions. Anyway, let's just say the late Emperor Septim didn't like slavery, but the new one does.

No, Josh, Gallow is reading the new stuff, seeing as how he/she (sorry, I really can't recall I want to say he, though) directly quoted me

And to Dren, I know we are making up a lot, but political RPs really should be as lore friendly as is convenient, and if I can satisfy some lore buffs with a little extra work on my part, I'd be more than happy to do it. And there is no way people can question us too much! The more questions the better; two heads are better than one after all. I would like to get the motives straightened out right here and now, to avoid confusion later

Sounds good Wooly, but ask Josh first. It's his RP, after all; I just kind of went crazy adding in background and lore. I'll be finishing that tomorrow, by the way

PS I think I might want to take charge of the new Nerevarine, to keep the facts as straight as possible. And a quick note: this is planning, so we can reveal everything we need to in order to get things started. But in the actual RP, the timeline shouldn't reveal too much. Let the posts take care of much of that, and leave a good bit of mystery and suspense in there for the players. I'm thinking we should get a sign up sheet within the week :goodjob:



EDIT: Ringman, please try to make someone that is actively involved in either politics or the Freedom Fighters. I advise you stick with the terrorist rebels, and if you want to put an Imperial in there then that is fine, but know that everyone else is going to be a little mean to you

I'll take some Nordic Boys telling the Empire to "Get the hell out" along with everyone else, basically fighting over Bruma because they want to be Nordic.

If not I'll get some Ra Gada with Ansei and Cannons and Lutemonsters...

War is not necessary, but military power is necessary for threatenful politics...hehe

If you haven't read already, Wooly, the Nords are allied with the Empire, so any group you have fighting Bruma will be up against the Dragon's Claw

Ra Gada are fine, but it would be helpful if you could team up with the Republic of Illiac to help fight the Empire.

Oh, war is very necessary There will be all out war soon, once the Emperor attacks the Southern State and starts his own personal Holocaust. The Western Alliance and Republic of Illiac will then team up to fight him, and it will be the three most powerful countries versus the rest, perhaps with the Elven Alliance turning on the others eventually, or Skyrim dropping out. We'll have to wait and see

This RP will be simply epic...................................................I got to go now!

You have dragons claw, I have greybeards. Come get it.

So the nords are allies with the dummer witch are allied with imperials who are the "bad guys"

and the beast races and the bosmer are allies with eatch other who are the "good guys" but did I miss the redguards, orcs and bretons part?

Not the Dunmer...no

The Imperials are playing everyone. The Nords, well, lets say that some of them aren't totally with the Empire. In other words, their land won't be ruled the empire.

Skyrim has many city-states. Many major ones...There has been civil war before. Many will not agree with the Empire (they haven't before either.)

I'll take that into account, Wooly, but I believe we are going to have Skyrim united under Solitude rule with the help of the Empire.

Yes, Morrowind will have become allies with Cyrodiil, due in a large part to the new leader, Nerevarine Baenius (Imperial), who we will have more information on later.

Here are the major factions (all of which were listed in the timeline post):

The United North Eastern Empire (Cyrodiil, Morrowind, and Skyrim)
The Western Elven Alliance (Summerset Isles and Valenwood)
The Republic of Illiac (High Rock and Hammerfell)
The Southern State of Tamriel (Elsweyr and Argonia)
And the Freedom Fighters are a terrorist group working within the UNEE to take out the Empire

All these names are just ideas, if anyone has any better ones let me know. These were basically off the top of my head :shrug: The last three have a common enemy of the UNEE, but are not strictly allies. They can turn on each other, as can countries within alliances (but get it cleared before you do if you are running a country).


If you have lore concerns, we are currently ironing those out, and I should have an updated OP by Tuesday or, at the latest, Friday. Hopefully Gallowglass and my other lore friends can help me out there

Thanks everyone, this seems very promising

I'm sorry, but the Dunmer hate the Empire with a passion, and if an allegiance was ever formed there would be riots and revolution amok...

Oh wait, just read about the Nerevarine... grrrrr... if the Nerevarine were a Dunmer this would NEVER have happened. Damn and blast the Imperial lot!

All seems logical, BUT. Morrowind is very unstable, and Skyrim, well, it is also a little unstable simply because of all the states.
The Altmeri Dominion is brought back, cool.
Ra Gada and Bretons, cool.
I guess Black Marsh really just keeps to theirselves in their swamps. Khajiit would probably be in the war zone.

I like the idea, it also has a nice setting for everything to just go into a crash of darkness.

I agree with Darkom. Solitude is the pinnacle of Skyrim. Also, not sure if you knew about them Darkom, but deep in the mountains of Skyrim there are powerful Nords known as Mouths. They have the power to speak destruction, demoralize enemy troops, or call beasts of war to aid them. I read this a long time ago whilst playing Morrowind. I figured it'd make for an excellent addition to the rp. The Nord's secret weapon. Also, I'd like to speak with Josh about running the Freedom Fighters...