Yeah, it's incredibly corrupt, and the emprah was an axe crazy templar with followers who are more axe crazy, but the Tau are really just as bad. The only difference is that they're not so messy.

At least with Chaos we're up front about it, and very happy about it too! :chaos:

JOIN CHAOS!

Yeah man. I'd totally buy that. GW have the money. For a more recent setting, Space Marines going from a Total War-esque strategy campaign map, down into a squad-based FPS would be frickin' epic. But as you say Pre-Heresy with epic numbers of Space Marines for an RTS affair would be frickin' epic-er. Even not using Marines, or only using them sparingly as special, costly units in an IG RTS game.

Get The Creative Assembly in a room and throw the Imperial Guard at them, tell them you want an epic campaign on world X which is currently under attack from orks or nids. You know they could balance out the many, many units on offer from the 40K universe, and have a working cinematic/numbers system in real-time between clashing units on the battle map, and have you rationing supplies and equipment, and establishing secure supply routes across strongholds and the frontline on the campaign map. Pull the campaign out far enough in a game and you have a slew of different factions with vastly different units, across vastly different environments and worlds... how has that not happened in a WH game yet?

For FPSs, why would anyone want to control Tau, when the Space Marines are pretty much the flagship characters of the setting? Gamers LIKE Gears, and Epics big bulky UT douches, because what's not to like? They're all essentially low-level Space Marines! The game engines exist, there are capable studios out there, have been for years, and yet GW have been content to sit and watch their video games come and go offering basic gameplay that often amounted to tabletop games on desktop PCs. Such a fail. S'only in recent years the setting/s has been given due attention with the right games, but most of them are going up against established settings that can't even hide the fact that they exist because of Games Workshop settings, and got big because Games Workshop were not interested in pushing their settings when the likes of Warcraft were flying off shelves, only to become the king setting of mumorpuggers. Bleh. :yes:

The could easily do an AvP style of game. Tyranids are an obvious equivalent, as are the super-soldier Space Marines (though IG might be more anologous), the sneakiness of the Eldar would cover some of what the Predators are, and the Warp could surely throw something in for extra spice.

A 40k flight sim would be... interesting, too.

EDIT: I have the original Alien versus Predator in mind, BTW. I haven't played the remake. Oh, and the Tau have some of the shiniest guns in the game, and mecha of various sizes. Plus, pushing (on military branch of) one faction all the time detracts from the franchise.

^ Agree with you guys about the 40k games.

What I'd love to see is a multiplayer FPS featuring various playable units of all the major species, focusing on the elite troops: Eldar players could be an aspect warrior, a warlock, or a harlequin(!); Tyranid players could be a genestealer, a 'Nid warrior or a 'stealer hybrid; Chaos players could be a traitor marine, a lesser daemon or a cultist; Ork players could be a nob, an ogryn or a gretchin(!); and so on. Support different SM chapters, ork clans, Eldar craftworlds and Chaos gods with additional art assets and make them selectable.

Throw in some RPG elements like progression & injury tables and unit-specific wargear upgrades (biomorphs for you 'Nid fans). Design a bunch of maps based on the major races and specific worlds: who doesn't want to play a Tyranids vs. Imperium deathmatch game on the Catachan deathworld, or an Ork vs. Chaos bloodbath in the gloomy corridors of a space hulk?

1. Make the above game (id Tech 5, anyone?)
2. Create multiplayer servers
3. ???
4. Profit!

Just... stay a very healthy distance away from:

Kharn. It doesn't matter if his title is "the Betrayer," for [censored]'s sake it's too big of a risk to take to stand near anyone called Kharn.

Daemonettes. Creepy things. Hell, stay away from ANY Slaaneshi cultists. In the words of Nancy Reagan AKA Angron, just say no.

Except for Doomrider. He's bi-winning.

I used the term loosely.

Oh, and I finished my first Warhammer 40k novel last night
Dead Men Walking was awesome. And on the final page I really got what the Death Korps of Krieg where all about. Also: Colonel 186 is an ass.

If you want a good Space Marine yarn ever, I highly recommend 'Deus Encarmine' and 'Deus Sanguinius' by James Swallow. I have well over a hundred Warhammer fantasy novels but only a few 40K novels. I don't rate those I do have except for the Swallow's Blood Angel novels I mentioned. In fact I'm so willing to prove how little I think of the books I do have I'd be willing to send you them for free if you pay postage. lol

Three omnibus edition books, which are 'The Ultramarines Omnibus' by Graham McNeil, 'The Dawn of War Omnibus' by CS Goto (terrible IMO) and 'The Soul Drinkers Omnibus' (more terrible than the DoW books IMO and rife with errors and its pretty much all over the place). The 'Firewarrior' novel by Simon Spurrier, not bad, not great. 'Ragnar's Claw' by William King (not bad). And uh, 'Dead Sky, Black Sun', which I'm not quite sure how it got in amongst my books given that I have the omnibus for Ultramarines of which it is a part. All in perfect nick, no creases on the spines, perfick. I'm oddly careful with my paperbacks.

I think that's it. I'll have a look, but I'm pretty sure that's it. Let me know if you want them. lol

Tyranids rule

If tyranids rule, how come it's not your avatar? Maybe the http://thetyranidhive.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=31857?

Only because they eat galaxies and have the manpower and unity to beat everyone else. BTW I recall something about I think the Space Marines beating on of the hive fleets.

Yep, the boy scouts of the galaxy did, the Ultramarines.

And, Defaulted, he's only called "the Betrayer" because he only burned most of his legion for being lazy, and the Emperor's Children for being Slaaneshi [censored]es. Did it all with just Gorechild and a flamer. Now that's bad ass.

You 'umies all crazy, that's wot. Evyone knows da Orkz is da best boyz in da galaxy. We'z just too busy beatin' eachother up to beat up you guys' much as you deserve.

Gamebook rules say otherwise, though. I'm still not risking it. What if he decides he's going to role-play as the commissar again?

Then good times are a' commin'

Speaking of which:
"Eh, boss... Iz we gettin' shot at?"

Out of the mists of chaos he rides, bike in his crotch and sword at his side!
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOM Rider!
Doom Rider.
Na na, na na.
He fights his own war, takes his own track, If he doesn't bail he might make his points back!
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOM Rider!
Doom Rider.
Na na, na na.
Son of Slaanesh, full of desire, He does cocaine and his head's on fire!
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOM Rider!
Doom rider.
Na na, na na.
Fights with fury of a dozen men, Spends two turns on the field then he's gone again...
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOM Rider!
Doom Rider.
Na na, na na.
His bike squeals as it ploughs on through the nearest guard, His skull is flaming as his daemon sword gets hard!
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOM Rider!
Doom Rider.
Na na, na na.
He's a killer and he's bursting out for fun! Screaming off, now he's gone, someone rolled a one!

:tongue:

I like Tyranids yes but I liked the picture of Fulgrim better any way I may change my avatar

To a Tyranid-ised Fulgrim?

Any favourite weapons in Warhammer 40k? I love the bolter rifles. Rocket propelled explosive slugs that would put a modern tank to shame. What's not to love

Prism cannon, preferably supported with 5 d-cannons with shuriken cannon Vyper bikes for extra support while my shuriken catapult armed guardians go for close assault and die almost certainly at first encounter.

I like eldar but hate the armour that they have.

definitely the bolter rifle, and chain axe.

Harlequin's Kiss (Mince the target's insides with an uncoiling monofilament wire - don't [NUMINIT] with Eldar harlequins.)
Shokk Attack Gun (Teleport Snotlings into physical objects [incl. people], and behold the Orky ultra-violence.)
Scatter Laser (Laser... minigun? Cool!)
Vortex Grenade (AKA black hole grenade!)
Callidus Neural Shredder
Tyranid Devourer Bio-weapon (Urrrgh...)
Power Fist
Nurgle Plaguesword (Started http://darklythroughglass.blogspot.com/2011/03/game-art-challenge-1-progress-1.html one recently. Also urrrgh...)
Chainsword
The Wailing Doom (We are not amused, Slaanesh.)

And last but not least - the trusty bolter.

I'm assuming some of ya'll are also fans of just Warhammer?

That's what I started on.. and then moved onto 40k. Bretonnia FTW.

After dwarves, goblins, lizardmen, all elves, skaven, the empire and the ogre kingdom. :whistling:

Psh, the Warriors of Chaos are cooler. I also have the complete Liber Chaotica with me