Based on the book Legion it seems to be a little of both, Much of Alpha Legion has gone full chaos but the Cabal messed up on creating a short of self fulfilling prophecy by revealing the fate of Horus and the Imperium along with whatever else was shown to them. Thus the Alpha Legion sided with Horus in the hopes of killing the Emperor there by preventing the slow death of humanity though a stagnated Imperium in favor of a quick doom. After that failed they decide to serve the Emperor though other means in the hopes that a small chance that such a future will not occur, perhaps with the rebirth of the emperor.

I don't know much of 40K fluff so I can't comment on the Alpha Legion sadly.

Just read up of the http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Deathwatch. Unoriginal name for a cool squad

Seems unlikely. I play Eldar and I like watching my Space Marine allies charge madly into battle and get themselves all killed while I stand back and take out targets that threaten me. But that's mostly because I get annoyed at them for blocking my firing lanes.

I'm pretty sure that made no sense to anyone but you.

Team Multiplayer I think. And IIRC the Space Marines and the Eldar are no strangers to a mutual and quite temporary... "Ceasefire"

I have a nasty habit of randomly saying, "Only in death does your duty end." Random. No relation to anything I might be doing at the time. I wouldn't mind but I haven't played DoW or its expansions for yonks, and that quote wasn't even in DoW II, which I guess I played not so long ago, but still... it's unhealthy.

Purge the unclean!

He did not choose to be a god. He was, godlike, sure, but he actively tried to stop the Emperor-worshipping cults which were forming when he was able to do stuff. Also, he led a 'crusade', of sorts, to unify humanity (it had fragmented when Earth got cut off from the rest of the galaxy by a warp storm) and free it from stuff like religion.


One of the main reasons for keeping the Emperor alive is that he's sitting on what is effectively a door to hell -- he built a gateway to access the Webway, but Chaos managed to break into the pathway (that bit may be slightly off). The only thing keeping it closed is the gadget he's sitting on; when he dies, the forces of Chaos will pour through into the heart of the Empire of Man, with no way to close the portal.

As far as I know Chaos never broke into the Golden Throne. You are correct in that it was (partly) intended to, eventually function as an access to the Webway, but connecting it required rather elaborate enchantments. When, at the dawn of the Horus Heresy, Magnus sent the Emperor a psychic warning, he (unintentionally) shattered these enchantments (which were still being woven), thus foiling the plan. That's also part of the reason why Magnus was labelled a heretic (mainly because he broke his vow, though).

I thought Magnus used sorcery to make an apparition of himself in the Emperors chambers to warn him of Horus

Indeed, as Marduk as said when Magnus tried to appear before the Emperor he not only violated the ruling of Nikaea he also allowed the warp into the throne room killing everyone but the emperor. The golden throne suffered irreparable damage. To put it mildly the fiasco put a wench into the Emperor's plan. That plan being to use the connected webway with the throne so humanity would not have to relie on warp craft but after Magnus's mistake caused daemons to get into the webway that was manmade killing everyone and had to be closed with the emperor using the now damaged Throne in order to keep the portal closed.

Basically had to not been for that mistake Humanity will not have to use the warp to travel or astrotelepathy instead using the webway and the Emperor would't have to sit all the time.

He doesn't have much choice in that though, with his body dead and all that. Stupid 'umies and dere waste of fine loot.

I don't know the hobby (or the fluff) much at all now beyond 2nd edition 40k (1990s), but I have a lot of old books (Rogue Trader or 2nd ed.) and nowhere can I recall any mention of the Emperor having (or being referred to by) a name other than "the Emperor" or some variation thereof (eg, "the Beneficient Emperor").

And all that's really told or implied in the old fluff is that he [was] a tremendously strong psyker; he's described as having been a mortal man before/during the Horus Heresy. That's 10,000 years ago (or more, if they've advanced the fiction since 2nd ed?), and he hasn't spoken or moved since then. I don't know all the old fluff, though, so maybe there's a better source out there.

Could try e-mailing Andy Chambers if you really want some kind of answer... though I believe he works for Blizzard on Starcraft nowadays.

Yeah, I knew I was a bit off with that. But I was close enough: it was supposed to connect humanity to the Webway, but nasty things broke in and can't wait for the 'lock' to break...

FOR CHAOS!!!
(too bad GW seems to hate Chaos and love the empire)

That's because the Ultramarines are part of the Empirium. Of course, if it didn't have them it would have been destroyed thousands of years ago.

Since when is that. Each year a new faction, eh? ^_^

I randomly say "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!" wih my friends if the situation applies for it, along with lots of other 40k quotes like "BURN THE HERETIC!"



They Hate us Nid's too!

I think right now, GW is being super duper duper nice to the Dark Eldar.

Then again, the DE need some loving. However, GW REALLY needs to stop giving the empire so much loving, especially with the spess mehrines. The necrons could use some diversifying too.

Dark Eldar? Bah! Back in my day all we had were rumours of the Eldar Chaos Champions (who burn with the dark light of Chaos), we had Squats, Orks were Space Orks, Space Marines still wore MK6 power armour, and we had none of this Necron or Tau rubbish. And we liked it!

[Waves cane threateningly at the forum]

All for the immortal God-Emperor! SISTERS, FIGHT BY MY SIDE!

I had to

BTW I tested out the Eldar in Soulstorm after a long while and DAMN they stink. I need both the armour upgrades for them to stay alive for any longer time
Edit: Their stinkyness may come from me being used to using Space Marines and Sisters of Battle. But wouldn't my experience with the Imperial Guard be of any help there?

I find the elder svck in general in that game, until late game. Once they get the wraithlord and fire prism, they can really go on the offensive. The harlequin is a good "damn, get that thing!" unit, as it's everywhere! The farseer is also a really good hero unit. Howling Banshees are also pretty good units too.

However, from what I heard from some friends back in college, they're an army you need to micromanage and use strategies, other than charging in.

Really? I can kick some Space Marine ass with Eldar on Soulstorm. Fire Prisms are vital for late game competition, at least in my strategy.

I must say, when I was playing the space marines in Dark Crusade, holding off one of the eldar forces with 3 dreadnaughts and a squad of marines, while the rest of my forces attacked the more vulnerable bases and pulled it off felt really good. Nothing like a good flank into the enemy's rear.

When you say "unify humanity" you mean join him or else, correct? Just like how the Tau say join the "Greater Good" or else. Because anyone who didn't want to join the Emperor were destroyed and slaughtered. Even those civilization that were cut off, wanted automitiy, they were not agaisnt the Emperor but didn't want to subject themselves to him and they were still slaughtered because they wouldn't join him.

In all actuallity, The Emperor of Manking is worse than Hitler, Stalin, Attilia the Hun, Bush, Osama Bin Ladin, Saddam Hussien, all rolled into one. He is not a very nice person. If you don't even greet him properly, you are killed. Come on, being killed just because you didn't great him properly? I wouldn't really say he was the saviour of mankind at all.