Was it Difficult to Change Systems?

Post » Sun Jul 25, 2010 5:35 am

I got a desktop recently and the controls were pretty intuitive.

Both methods feel pretty much the same to me.

Also,I call BS on those that say a mouse and keyboard are more accurate for aiming than a controller is.



I do find it harder to get used to different control schemes on the PC though. After several cases of jumping when trying to activate things I set up Fallout 3's controls to be the same as Morrowind's.


Call BS all you like but there's a reason many console FPSes have auto-aim enabled by default.
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Jason Rice
 
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Post » Sun Jul 25, 2010 12:46 pm

Call BS all you like but there's a reason many console FPSes have auto-aim enabled by default.

Controllers are so accurate that it's a waste of time to aim manually.
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Post » Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:26 pm

My last console was a PS1, I play only PC games. When I go to friends houses or family and play on the console its really hard to get used to. I don't know how the hell people play FPS games on the console I really svck at it! You'd think "Oh console has less buttons" but in fact I have a hard time with the controller I forget where buttons are and using the joystick thingies to aim is really hard for me. I like my keyboard and mouse. I'm like the "6 year old sister" svck when it comes to playing console games these days...
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Post » Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:56 pm

Call BS all you like but there's a reason many console FPSes have auto-aim enabled by default.

Mouses may be more precise but controllers feel more natural (as in real), I'd say. anolog sticks are typically pressure-sensitive (can walk, run, or everything in between) and the rumble features are nice. I've long utilized both, and that's what I've felt to be the case, over the years. :shrug:
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Post » Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:56 pm

Mouses may be more precise but controllers feel more natural (as in real), I'd say. anolog sticks are typically pressure-sensitive (can walk, run, or everything in between) and the rumble features are nice. I've long utilized both, and that's what I've felt to be the case, over the years. :shrug:


I'll grant that one strength of an anolog controller is you can control how fast you move. I guess you could say the left stick itself is superior to the keyboard interface, but the right stick is inferior to the mouse interface. And not just for aiming. There is actually a hard upper limit on how fast you can turn with a thumb stick. With a mouse the only limitation is how fast and how far you can move your hand. Hell, I've had to make adjustments in some games' settings because the default settings had me doing 1080 degree turns with a single movement. I guess that could be a good thing or a bad thing. Either way you won't be doing that with a thumb stick.
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Post » Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:22 am


Also,I call BS on those that say a mouse and keyboard are more accurate for aiming than a controller is.



You can call BS if you like hon, but for me (and it is a personal thing), I aim FAR better with a mouse than I do with a controller. I'm not saying it's more accurate, I'm saying it's more accurate for me.
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Post » Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:36 am

No, it's easy. What's hard is going from the fast, accurate control that a mouse gives you, and beautiful graphics of a PC to the clunky anolog sticks and upscaled 480p at medium graphics settings of a console. Going from console to PC is truly easy, and enjoyable.
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Post » Sun Jul 25, 2010 7:13 pm

No, it's easy. What's hard is going from the fast, accurate control that a mouse gives you, and beautiful graphics of a PC to the clunky anolog sticks and upscaled 480p at medium graphics settings of a console. Going from console to PC is truly easy, and enjoyable.

Unless you're playing Wii then I think you're slightly off there. :P
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Post » Sun Jul 25, 2010 2:41 pm

Unless you're playing Wii then I think you're slightly off there. :P

No, I'm talking about a 360, and after months of only gaming on my new PC, going back to the 360 this last week while staying with a friend was painful in every way.
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Post » Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:10 am

I'm planning on buying a PC somewhere in the future. I wonder if it is difficult to get used to the controls?

If you had such a switch from either console to PC, PC to console, or a different console to another console please post. I've been using Xbox, and have not played many games on PC most at my friends or cousins but I still find it difficult to maneuver. Of course I've never fully had it 24/7 so needs the muscle memory to settle in.

How long did it take you to get set and get a feel for it? Or do you still have problems or certain kinks?

:whisper: game controllers for the PC exist. They even have rumble and dual anolog sticks!

Personally, I use the Fragnstein -- or my Logitech dual rumble pad (and http://code.google.com/p/x360ce/ if the dev's were too lazy to accommodate non-MS-xbox pads). You can also use something called JoyToKey to get your controller to work with games that normally only use keyboard + mouse. Or you can spend the $40+ on an xbox360-PC controller. :shrug:

I found it pretty easy to adapt to dual anolog sticks (going from no-sticks from the Sega Genesis era) and all those buttons. I don't use keyboard WASD anymore because it hurts my hand too much, I like anolog stick movement much better. If you're at a level of comfort with the keyboard/typing that you have a certain muscle memory for where keys are, it's pretty easy to settle into the habit of resting your left hand right over the WASD controls. :P Most games also tend to cluster their keybindings around that area to make it easy to reach the hotkeys while your other hand is on the mouse. The only time it becomes troublesome is when you have keybindings for, say, the 1-to-0 keys (not on the numpad), or anything toward the right side of the keyboard. You can buy computer mice - gaming mice - that have extra buttons on them so you can map keybindings there to access with your thumb - it works really well. Some games don't always recognize extra mouse buttons (*coughTitanQuestcough*), but if you get a mouse with firmware, I bet it'd work (mine is a plug-in-play mouse with just two side buttons and some extra features I haven't tested yet....).
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Post » Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:29 pm

:whisper: game controllers for the PC exist. They even have rumble and dual anolog sticks!

Personally, I use the Fragnstein -- or my Logitech dual rumble pad (and http://code.google.com/p/x360ce/ if the dev's were too lazy to accommodate non-MS-xbox pads). You can also use something called JoyToKey to get your controller to work with games that normally only use keyboard + mouse. Or you can spend the $40+ on an xbox360-PC controller. :shrug:

I found it pretty easy to adapt to dual anolog sticks (going from no-sticks from the Sega Genesis era) and all those buttons. I don't use keyboard WASD anymore because it hurts my hand too much, I like anolog stick movement much better. If you're at a level of comfort with the keyboard/typing that you have a certain muscle memory for where keys are, it's pretty easy to settle into the habit of resting your left hand right over the WASD controls. :P Most games also tend to cluster their keybindings around that area to make it easy to reach the hotkeys while your other hand is on the mouse. The only time it becomes troublesome is when you have keybindings for, say, the 1-to-0 keys (not on the numpad), or anything toward the right side of the keyboard. You can buy computer mice - gaming mice - that have extra buttons on them so you can map keybindings there to access with your thumb - it works really well. Some games don't always recognize extra mouse buttons (*coughTitanQuestcough*), but if you get a mouse with firmware, I bet it'd work (mine is a plug-in-play mouse with just two side buttons and some extra features I haven't tested yet....).

I know they have those kid of controllers. But just want to get use to the keys.

And when I do shovel the money for PC, I'm not going to spend much else on a controller.

But everything else might help, thanks.:)
The mouse I've seen my friend use well mybe not the exact type might have many variants and such, which I plan to try out. Wasn't sure how many keys would be let on keyboard when using said mouses, which is where I screw up. I guess its up to good Ol practice though.
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Post » Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:25 pm

after a week of not playing deus ex, i forgot the controls
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Post » Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:47 am

This might be interesting for some. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/ms-killed-pc-xbox-cross-platform-play

A "counter" argument, he dodges the answer admirably. If he was as close to the other person as he says then why the hell shouldn't he have access to the same data? Sounds like he didn't want to demoralize the console people. Or it could just be me trying to find any excuse. http://www.pcworld.com/article/203559/answered_did_microsoft_kill_crossplatform_xbox_360_and_windows_play.html
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