Was that the Skyrim theme?

Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:25 pm

I'll be brief. I love the Skyrim theme. You love the Skyrim theme. We all love the Skyrim theme. But as you may have noted in comparing the trailer's music to the tune used in the original announcement trailer and Bethesda's last few podcasts, it's a different track with a different buildup to the choirs.

In the Sounds of Skyrim video, we were introduced to another snippet of the theme, which contains the first stanza of the lyrics set to a melody chillingly similar to Morrowind's theme. As I was too lazy to dig up the Game Informer video, you can hear this first stanza http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBSiIeu1Yg8#t=2m5s (2:05) mixed into the original trailer song. I absolutely adore the light, "dancing" feel of this portion of the theme and the lead instrument at the beginning - I believe it's a mandolin or a harpsichord, but don't take my word for it.

In the newest trailer, I noticed another iteration of the song. The brass for the "Morrowindesque" portion of the song is much more pronounced now, and even the original "Dovahkiin, Dovahkiin" stanza from the announcement trailer is now complemented by additional instruments. I adore it as I do all the other Skyrim-related melodies we've heard over the past three months, but I do really miss the instrumentation used in the older Game Informer sample we saw (again, linked above for reference). I was wondering if you guys think this is the "official" theme now, or a special movement of it to flow better with the trailer? Certainly, even the original theme, awesome though it may be, is perhaps a bit too slow to really be memorable if used on the game's menu. Any ideas?

I figured it was time for me to contribute a nitpick of my own towards our thoughts of the new trailer - which by the way Bethesda, is still absolutely amazing and I wouldnt've asked it to be any different. Keep up the good work, we really appreciate it. :goodjob:
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Kara Payne
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:38 pm

I noticed too. I kinda liked the Morrowind feel it had.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:38 am

I'm farily certain it is, i love how it has snippets from Morrowind and Oblivion.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 2:18 pm

I think it's just another track to be honest. It was better suited and more appropriate for the trailer and overall feel of the TES atmosphere.
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 12:53 am

It was probably to appease all of the people who want Skyrim to be more like MW, making us say, "Well, the theme is like Morrowind's, the rest must be too!" Just my theory on it.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:37 am

Actually, I think the theme we heard on the game informer video was simply low quality, so not all instruments could be heard right.
But since this one was high quality, you could definitely hear the other instruments better
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:07 pm

Not sure about Oblivion, but the Morrowind theme had a Reprise as well. You can only hear it on the soundtrack, but it's a slightly different version of "Neravarine Rising" than the one that was used in the game.
Perhaps that's what we are hearing here, a reprise of the Skyrim theme.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:33 pm

Not sure about Oblivion, but the Morrowind theme had a Reprise as well. You can only hear it on the soundtrack, but it's a slightly different version of "Neravarine Rising" than the one that was used in the game.
Perhaps that's what we are hearing here, a reprise of the Skyrim theme.

Possibly. I just preferred the elements of the theme heard in the original trailer and Game Informer sources. It felt more adventurous and beckoning, whereas the theme in the trailer is a tad too bold - something you'd hear after you've completed the main quest and everything's all well and good.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:56 pm

well it makes sense nord and dunmer culture has crossed paths alot (usually on the battlefield though) also there two countries border one another so its not to hard to imagine a few musical melodies have been shared
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:15 pm

Not sure about Oblivion, but the Morrowind theme had a Reprise as well. You can only hear it on the soundtrack, but it's a slightly different version of "Neravarine Rising" than the one that was used in the game.
Perhaps that's what we are hearing here, a reprise of the Skyrim theme.

Oblivion has one of those, too.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 2:43 pm

Oblivion has one of those, too.

Are you referring to Nerevar Rising Reprise (which is technically an Oblivion song) or something else? Curious to hear it.

By the way, not sure about anybody else, but the music that played at the end of the trailer when the Dovahkiin is absorbing the dragon's soul reminded me of a cross between the Oblivion launcher music and the level up fanfare from Morrowind.
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 12:36 am

In the newest trailer, I noticed another iteration of the song. The brass for the "Morrowindesque" portion of the song is much more pronounced now, and even the original "Dovahkiin, Dovahkiin" stanza from the announcement trailer is now complemented by additional instruments. I adore it as I do all the other Skyrim-related melodies we've heard over the past three months, but I do really miss the instrumentation used in the older Game Informer sample we saw (again, linked above for reference).


to be fair, the version from the GI video was being played through Mark's sound system and recorded on whatever microphone was being used, so it was affected by the acoustics of the room. it's a bit like playing a song for a friend over the phone. it's very possible that they've fiddled with the mix since the video - no musician worth his salt is ever truly done with a song - but honestly it's more likely that the GI recording just cut out some of the higher frequencies so the horns weren't quite as prominent.

Certainly, even the original theme, awesome though it may be, is perhaps a bit too slow to really be memorable if used on the game's menu. Any ideas?


assuming Skyrim's title slides (the Bethesda/Zenimax logos, the legal information, etc.) are handled more like Fallout 3 (i.e. things that seamlessly fade into the title screen and not separate videos) and the THE ELDER SCROLLS V: SKYRIM does a cute animated thing like Morrowind and Oblivion did, by the time NEW GAME etc. appears the main melody will probably have just kicked in. they might could cut the bit that's playing when Esbern's saying "BUT THERE'S ONE THEY FEAR", but i kind of like that bit.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:51 pm

Oblivion's main theme also had Morrowind's main theme. But it was with double speed.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:23 pm

It was probably to appease all of the people who want Skyrim to be more like MW, making us say, "Well, the theme is like Morrowind's, the rest must be too!" Just my theory on it.

:facepalm:

Personally I was thrilled to hear the MW theme thread through the stirring Skyrim music, and even the touch of Oblivion theme at the end of the trailer. I cannot wait to hear all of the music - I loved MW and OB music, so personally, I was happy to hear the Soule was doing this. I thought the music for the trailer was a bang-up job. It gave me shivers. :twirl:
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:32 pm

My favourite part is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSRtYpNRoN0&feature=player_detailpage#t=52s-1:08
My second favourite part is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSRtYpNRoN0&feature=player_detailpage#t=70s-1:44

Is it just me, or do you still kinda hear the lyrics we all thought was right when they sing?
You know... the "Dovahkiin! Dovahkiin! For the sake of Skyrim! For a land, for a hope... etc etc"?

I still "hear" them, despite I know it's wrong. :(

Anyway, all in all. This theme is incredibly great. After having listened to it more, I'd say it's even better than Morrowind's, which therefore makes it the best music theme ever for me :D
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 2:27 am

So me and my friend was discussing the new trailer yesterday and I voiced my excitment of when the choir kicked in with the Morrowind theme. He then responds saying their is a bit of the Morrowind theme in the Oblivion main theme and that both Oblivion and Morrowind has a bit of there theme in the Skyrim trailer. I scoffed at him and we had an argument but please tell me as I wish to ask the third party of the Elder Scrolls Community. Is their really a bit of the Morrowind theme in Oblivion? And is their really a bit of the Oblivion theme in Skyrim?
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:38 pm

Y'know how on Oblivion, in the little intro video, it was a slightly altered version of the main theme? I think this is the same deal. They're two different tracks.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:53 pm

I merged a similar topic into this one, in case anyone is confuzzled.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:50 pm

The whole trailer theme just rocked my world. I'm still humming it, damn, can't get it out of my head, lol. Will it be "the theme" or was it special version for trailer? Not sure. But it wouldn't fit anywhere as an exploration tune. I'd rather have the "pure, non-power" Morrowind version for exploration.
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 1:49 am

The whole trailer theme just rocked my world. I'm still humming it, damn, can't get it out of my head, lol. Will it be "the theme" or was it special version for trailer? Not sure. But it wouldn't fit anywhere as an exploration tune. I'd rather have the "pure, non-power" Morrowind version for exploration.


Agreed. It would be too epic for exploration. Way too epic :P

Although it would be really nice if the theme was scripted and timed in with a certain event in the game.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:45 pm

Is their really a bit of the Morrowind theme in Oblivion?

The Oblivion theme has its roots in Morrowind's theme, yes. Mark Lampert mentions in his interview that it's pretty much the Elder Scrolls theme since it's been used in the last 3 major ES games (including Skyrim).
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:16 pm

Huh didn't know okay as much as I hate losing this argument I'm gonna have to swallow my pride and admit defeat then.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:12 pm

Music is (Censored) awesome and yes I think it's a remix of the original Elder Scrolls theme song that's been used in the last couple games.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:00 pm

I'd rather have the "pure, non-power" Morrowind version for exploration.

Same. Assuming, you know, we even hear the theme as an exploration track again. It could get annoying if it starts playing in the middle of dark scary dungeons as Morrowind's used to. :P
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:57 pm

Bumped this thread because I am horrendously bored.
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