Was the dragon fight unscripted?

Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:21 pm

All of the creatures in the game have scripts running on them. So it by nature has to be scripted. So then one of two possible scenarios were used:

1. Either Bethesda wrote some additional coding in order to make these scenes work out the way they did OR
2. The playtesters were required to film (using FRAPS or something like that) everything they did in their games for days and days. And they just took the most interesting dragon bits and edited them together to create this movie.

Either way, it's scripted. But what people are trying to actually ask is "Did this battle happen just like that?" or "Was it arranged to LOOK like it happened just like that?" In which case I think the answer is the LATTER question.

You can take tons of film when crafting a movie, but you only edit together the best parts that are the most interesting.... doesn't mean you didn't shoot them, but they might not have even been shot the same day, but then in editing them they are worked to create the illusion that this all happened naturally one after another. I think Bethesda is only guilty of EDITING their footage ... but I don't they are guilty of FAKING their footage. I think someone there was playing those exact scenes, but later the Director of this video is the one that put them all together to make what we saw, which is essentially a more interesting compilation of what actually can occur in the game.

I'm sure the dragon flying off toward the mountain was a real thing that happened to SOMEONE ... but who knows how many times they ran around filming that before someone got that scene to naturally occur?

Also, one guy complained that "how could that guy run down the hill and then the dragon follows him right to the edge?" Who says it ever worked that way to begin within? Maybe those clips are unrelated and just edited to APPEAR related.... Perhaps, again using my theory, when they saw that one of their playtesters had recorded a battle near the edge of the cliff, the video Director said "okay, I need some footage in game of the player running down the hill so we can sort of try to make it look like he's being chased" ... so yeah, that would be staged, but it's still coming from in game footage filmed after the dragon battle but edited PRIOR to the dragon battle to try and tell a story. Then he said "Can anyone get some footage of him shouting over the body of the dead dragon?" and the playtester go back to work recording more footage ...

Random footage tossed around (like a limp salad) just won't be as interesting as a solid (piece of steak) story is to our minds as consumers ...

I don't blame them one bit. I don't feel lied to or cheated. I understand as a consumer that some parts of a multi-million dollar epic RPG game's trailer videos are going to be EDITED (not faked!) to create a more impressive feeling for me, it's just SALES, people. There will always be SALES .... try to get past that, and just enjoy what they've given us... a really cool window into the game that can keep us happy for at least another month, when they can release another tidbit to enjoy....

Thanks.

I was going to make this post, but you said it way better than I could have.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:07 am

so far as I see it, yes it was rendered using the in game engine, no it was not actually gameplay, it was a scripted scene.

there is just to many small points, the way he stumbles back when the dragon lands, the way he acted after blocking the fire breath, the way he just beat a dragon by doing a slight sword cut while it was mid flight, the dramatic way he stood by the dragons dissolving body.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:18 pm

It wasn't that intelligent, the dragon should have just pushed him off...it wouldn't make a good trailer though.


I love how people keep going on about how "it's not intelligent". I mean c'mon. It's a friggen dragon. Dragon's aren't afraid of anything. They revel in the fear of their prey. If you were a fearless flying beast of death, wouldn't you find it pretty boring to kill you're prey quickly all the time? Sure it's alright some of the time, your stomach wants food more than entertainment. But you're a dragon. Nothing can kill you. Since when have you ever had to be cautious about letting a person live longer than they should? Since when has anything posed any threat to you?

Now that I'm done with the rant, I can agree to some stupidity, but I mostly agree to the sheer fact that it wouldn't be awesome if it was that easy. xD
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:57 pm

I love how people keep going on about how "it's not intelligent". I mean c'mon. It's a friggen dragon. Dragon's aren't afraid of anything. They revel in the fear of their prey. If you were a fearless flying beast of death, wouldn't you find it pretty boring to kill you're prey quickly all the time? Sure it's alright some of the time, your stomach wants food more than entertainment. But you're a dragon. Nothing can kill you. Since when have you ever had to be cautious about letting a person live longer than they should? Since when has anything posed any threat to you?

Now that I'm done with the rant, I can agree to some stupidity, but I mostly agree to the sheer fact that it wouldn't be awesome if it was that easy. xD


You've taken the words right out of my mouth, Hasonish.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:50 am

I think people are mistaking scripted and edited. From the tweets its clear this was in game not scripted but it was also obviously edited together. So the scenes in the dragon fight may be taken from several fights and then edited together, for example the last blow on the dragon doesn't seem to fully tally with the Dragon crashing to the ground. Just to be clear I think the trailer was amazing and edited brilliantly and I don't think it was scripted.
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