Ok so the prophesy said that the PC was gonna restore morrowind to its former glory, but I havent seen that yet. Its more like we were the blast that caused the avalanche to morrowinds destruction. yes I know it was technically a lose lose situation, we come along and put the axe in motion or if we hadnt then that desease be everywhere, but still you know?

And whats up with the PC bailing out of morrowind? I thought we gave an oath to protect it from invaders and other forces?

Wonderful game but when looking in hindsight, its almost we wasnt the hero of the story but more like the start of a chain reaction that leads to morrowinds destruction...almost as we are a catalyst ourselves.

The Nerevarine Prophecy was fulfilled.

Vivec was the one who bailed.

Inertia.

By the time the Incarnate was taken first by carriage, then by boat, Morrowind was already on the fast-track to utter destruction. They were so far gone that not even the Hero of Prophecy could turn them around. Akavir wasn't an expedition; it was a sabbatical.

Really, Morrowind refused to help itself.

You know, sometimes you must destroy before you can create.


Like every wise mentor, he/she knows that he/she must go so that the hero can learn to stand on their own two feet.

The Nerevarine never bailed, he went off to Akavir to ward of the Second Kamal Invasion.

Vivec, on the other hand...can you really blame him too? Not only was he going up against Sheogorath when he defied Lie Rock's descent, but his divinity gets all shot up, but most importantly his followers lost faith in him. Vivec didn't bail out, the Dunmer did.

They will never truly know Love until they know loss.

But who felt Loss and learned Love? Vivec, or the Dunmer?

Of course the prophecy was wrong. It was bs to begin with.

On the subject of inertia: we've been watching the fall of the Third empire of man for five games now. When is the cascading boulder of the Septim's legacy going to come to rest in order for the Sisyphus of Shezarr to begin pushing it back up the mount?

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I've wondered before how the prophecy of the Nerevarine returning Morrowind to glory can be reconciled with the later idea that causing Vivec to lose divine power resulted in the ministry of truth falling and destroying Vvardenfell.

I suppose that Azura must be really just very monastic at heart and so for her a return to the nomadic Ashlander ways is a spiritual glory well worth the Dunmers' loss of worldy prestige.

Or perhaps the glory was the few years between the fall of the Tribunal and the destruction of Morrowind.

Or mabye the glory part is yet to happen? Morrowind rising literaly from ashes, province might be destroyed, but in time Dunmer might want to take it back

This. It all started like 3000 years before the events in the game, when the oath-breakers pissed Azura off, so she made up this "prophecy".


The blame doesn't lie with the Nerevarine, but with Vivec and the Dunmer, bunch of foolish "patriots".

If Red Mountain is Green by the time Vivec comes back, then I'd expect him to gladly take credit for the destruction of Morrowind (or letting true beauty bloom).

Azura said the prophecy was fufilled, the second you walk out of the collapsing heart chamber she tells you that you are done. So no.

It's an Ashlander prophecy, therefore the glory was the nomadic times before the Houses and before the Empire. And really, summing up the situation, I'd say the Nerevarine was pretty successful. Causing the ministry to fall and turning all of Morrowind into the Ashlands is a decent way of forcing a return to an Ashlander way of life.

The prophecy about former glory is Ashlander as well? I always thought Azura made the prophecy and Azura is no enemy, or at least back then wasn't an enemy of the great houses.

A lot of the stuff people claim the Nerevarine will do, doesn't happen because it's not actually stated in the prophecy, more of wishful thinking regarding the prophecy than any actual fact. The Nerevarine made things as they were, destroying the enchantments on the Heart. That Azura failed to take into account Sheogorath's machinations isn't the Nerevarine's fault. Given Sheogorath is both utterly unpredictable and in fact the maddened Prince of Order, I can't blame Azura for being outmaneuvered.

Like all prophecies this one could hold many meaning within its cryptic phrases. Exactly what is meant by United, Former Glory or the rest of it all mean? There are some powerful mages working for the Empire. Could it be that the Empire manipulated the prophecy by manufacturing its own version of the Nerevarine? Could it be that by using you to its advantage the Empire ensured all Morrowind would return to the former glorious nomadic way of life as seen in the eyes of the Ashlander only to be united under the heavy yoke of imperial rule. You were, as an agent of the empire (whether by design or not) not given the choice to overthrow imperial rule, only to enforce and strengthen it.

Didn't the Ashlanders exclusively live in the "certain death" part of Morrowind? Weren't the Ashlands exclusively located on Vvarvendfel? Wouldn't all the Ashlanders be dead?

I'm under the assumption that it was for the Dunmeri people as a whole returning to a sort of nomadic lifestyle, and not just the Ashlanders.

Puns, mufguh. Puns. Azura just pulled the biggest "exact words" in history by turning Dunmer into a new Orsimer (in the literal sense of Pariah Folk).

Well, a goddess said stuff would happen. Hence, prophesy. It happened; hence, fulfilled. I suppose Azura must have known what would eventually happen with the Rock, but technically that's irrelevent. Blame Vivec.

Anyway, the OP is right about the Dagoth Ur thing. Removing the Blight and saving everyone from getting god-cancer was no small accomplishment.

Morrowind was doomed to catastrophe by the Tribunal.

Where was the nerevarine during umbriels invasion?

The Nerevarine was a player character, it's up to you.