Was Todd Howard too harsh on Arvel the swift?

Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:06 am

I hope we can just pickpocket him while he's stuck in the web.


This is what I was thinking. But if not, I figure he could be a distraction for the enemies he is blindly running into.
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cosmo valerga
 
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:37 am

i will shoot an arrow in his head :D
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yessenia hermosillo
 
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:10 am

Nothing wrong with that... people play pacifist all the time.


Then, if you want to be a pacifist, using paralysis... don't kill Arvel. Though he is a greedy bastard.


I don't think anything I've to say you haven't already heard about, it was either I play or try to record stuff on the Ipod. I chose to play :P


It seems like the right choice.
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Shaylee Shaw
 
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:35 am

Every time I watch that part, I want Todd to try talking to him, because there's that "Talk" icon that shows up even as he's running away. Would he stop and talk? Would selecting "talk" simply make him hurl an insult at you? Or would it do nothing altogether.


Same. At first I imagined Oblivion style zoom action :shakehead:
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:43 pm

Same. At first I imagined Oblivion style zoom action :shakehead:

Haha yeah...

*zoom in*

"You'll never catch me, fetcher!"

*zoom out*

*commence running away*
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:22 am

Every time I watch that part, I want Todd to try talking to him, because there's that "Talk" icon that shows up even as he's running away. Would he stop and talk? Would selecting "talk" simply make him hurl an insult at you? Or would it do nothing altogether.

I was thinking about that while watching the demo. Todd slipping his sword through the guy's back was awesome, but pretty cold, not something I would do on a morally good playthrough. Maybe there's I dialogue option to make him halt or something, maybe something in earlier dialogue that makes him not betray you (like you tell him earlier on, "You can keep the treasure, I need only the Golden Claw."). Otherwise, I think I'll just let him kill himself through the traps if he really wants, but I don't like killing fleeing enemies on a Good playthrough (Where is the honor in that?).
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 2:33 am

LOL Nope, i'ma kill him so hard.
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Alexandra Ryan
 
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 2:19 pm

Dragonbone, when you Look at throat of the world a kind of psychology says BIG TIME WASTER OVER HERE GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

Big time waster? Also, is the body of water you mentioned a barrier? Can you swim across, or do you have to cross over the bridge? You said you made it West, but how far? Could you see the Reach, or Markarth? Yea, lots of questions :tongue:
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 2:50 am

I don't think he was Arvel is going to meet a similiar fate in my game.
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Silvia Gil
 
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:31 pm

Watching him get hacked up by those swinging traps would be kind of funny, but at the same time, would sadly demonstrate the stupidness of the AI as he blindly runs into huge swinging hatchets.
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Frank Firefly
 
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 2:32 pm

Arvel was a piece of [censored].

He would run into a dead end anyways wouldn't he?
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 2:11 pm

He would be lucky if I let him stand up after cutting him free.
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:00 am

Big time waster? Also, is the body of water you mentioned a barrier? Can you swim across, or do you have to cross over the bridge? You said you made it West, but how far? Could you see the Reach, or Markarth? Yea, lots of questions :tongue:



Near river woood are 2 bridges, one to the south another to the north, the north bridge is closer, the Mountain trying to get around it is what I felt would have been a waste of time, Markarth was a bit way out of the way to not get destracted by patrols, other people got a third time in(I know right what the heck? I asked.) and new exactly where they wanted to go or what towns they wanted to reach, when you don't know where to go, you lose time being "lost" the body of water is a large lake connected by rivers on two sides, going south is ok but North part of the river there is a Big rockface that you can't climb on one side. you can swim sure did I? no um about north north west of the mountain Bleak falls was situated on, used up all my health potions after a fight, and about a few minutes in I got owned by arrows, from who I don't know but it was then that my play time was over, I died 6 times.
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:00 pm

Frodo, for example.


Dammit it Sam. He had to go and be the hero of the story.

I will probably just pick his pocket (if possible) to take the claw. Then leave him there so he can learn a lesson about spiders and webs.
But if I have to go through that way.... there's an easier way through webs... :flamethrower:
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Connor Wing
 
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:30 am

I hope we can just pickpocket him while he's stuck in the web.


I am thinking about casting the flames spell and just roasting him like a spider web kabob
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:30 am

oh, come on. U get sad with this?

misery.
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Markie Mark
 
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 2:08 pm

As a barbarian im gonna stab my 2-handed greatsword into his back....And steal his stuff
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:43 am

Well, it certainly makes the demo more interesting to kill him. Though I'd like to see what happens if you don't kill Arvel for the Golden Claw and follow him instead.

probably adds to the quest, "find arvel" i guess you would end up finding him at a merchant attempting to sell it :S
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:41 am

Thanks MK. There weren't a lot of boundaries, or invisible walls blocking stuff though, right? You could have swam, or gone around the mountains, but chose not to because of time constraints right?
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:27 am

probably adds to the quest, "find arvel" i guess you would end up finding him at a merchant attempting to sell it :S

Might be that he's supposed to run into the traps and pull a Fithragaer if you don't kill him yourself, that way you don't need to follow him far for the Golden Claw.
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:06 am

I plan on slowly roasting him with a flamethrower spell. Which, I imagine will simultaneously set him free. At which point I'll paralyze him and punch him in the face until he dies.

Lesson: Don't be a N'Wah to Skyrim while drinking your skooma in the barrow.
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Beth Belcher
 
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:04 am

Clearly he was not swift enough.
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Stefanny Cardona
 
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:36 am

Well, it certainly makes the demo more interesting to kill him. Though I'd like to see what happens if you don't kill Arvel for the Golden Claw and follow him instead.

Draugr/Dragon Priest probably kill him and we could just loot the Golden Claw from his body.
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:33 am

Great altruistic thought, maybe you can join him for milk and cookies afterwards.

With all kidding aside, I think it was fairly just, and the finishing move was really cool.
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:39 am

I probably would have pick pocketed (is it still called pick pocketing if I robbed a tied-up man or would that just be called stealing?) the guy and paralyze him before I cut through. No honour among thieves after all, can't chance him running away with my prize.
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