Cast aside for the fugly's pipe weaps, i mean, laser ones, even, with institute ones looking more as toys than actual weapons and auto's like assault rifles are quite awful, i mean, its America, land of the weapons, how there isn't a single M4A1-like looking rifle, while there are still plenty of hunting rifle in all possible variations?!

Gauss also looking too bulky, whenever putting a silencer to it i want to explode in a maniacal laugh staring at my character with that weird thing.

Oh, and recon scope mod is looking like i have installed a mirror to my rifles !!!

It'd be working better if it would actually spot whether i've someone on my back, rather than an hundred meters in front

You do realize that the "modern" weapons follow a what if 1950's aesthetics were the predominant influence right? In this alternate universe Korea, Vietnam, etc never happened

Except that even the very first Fallout had weapons like the Desert Eagle, which definately is not a 50s design...

Well yeah, but then we have China which has an AK-47 like AR. America by contrast has a BAR and a Vickers for their frontline combat weaponry. Technological and cultural advancement literally STOPPED at 1950, save for robots and lasers. It would have made more sense if the bombs dropped in the 1960's/1970's at the latest. Of course, looking at the state of the world in Fallout, it's more like 10-20 years have passed since the bombs dropped, not 210.

Lesson to be learned here, OP - the passage of time is moot in the Fallout universe. Just accept it for what it is. I too would have preferred more modern weaponry over a BAR and a WWI machine gun. Even something reminiscent of an Americanized StG44 would have felt like an advancement in ballistic weapons technology on par with China's AR.

1. The AK-47 was developed in - you guessed it: 1947.

2. As I said above, even the very first Fallout broke with the 'technology stopped in the 1950s' by including weapons such as the Desert Eagle (which was developed in the early 70s, I think)

Technology didn't stop in the 1950s, technological mindset stopped at the 1950s (plus devs of the old games has gone on record and stated that they regret putting any guns past the 1950s, including a lot of the more "modern" guns in Fallout 2)


Hence you get big, sturdy looking guns in Fallout 4.

The Desert Eagle was already there in the original Fallout...

Even New Vegas had some distinclyt "non-50s" weapons, such as the .50 cal sniper rifle, and the light machine gun (both based on real-life weapons from the 70s/80s)

But al the guns you mention had a clear 1950s look, even the DE, tho made in the late 70s looks like it could belong in the 1950s

Of course, because you saw actual laser weapons in your life, so you know how they should look like.

Weapons are not made to win beauty contest, they are made to kill people.

Because M4A1 was newer produced in Fallout universe, bolt action hunting rifle was.

You can try to wrap enough inducted wire around barrel of a rifle to propel projectile speed larger then that of sound and tell us how sleek it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REHt44BuASk

And as i've said before, i much rather have the giant badass assault rifle that is in the game, than a modern realistic one. Because that thing really goes well with a power armor or super mutant. Though maybe it should always be automatic and called a machine gun?

Lol on one hand we have mostly pre-1950's ballistic weapons, then on the other we have laser, plasma, and gauss weapons that have yet to be developed (or are even possible...)

This actually does fit the lore however. After the bombs factions that didn't have scientists like raiders, settlers, etc. simply used what they found -> ballistic weapons. Factions like the institute with the brains and manpower to create new things focused on new and more powerful weapons like lasers and plasma weapons instead of the old ballistic weapons.

All of the new weapons created were leaps forward in new technology and not just reinventing a better ballistic weapon. Makes sense to me at least.

I find it sad that no 7.62 or 9 mm weapons exist! .308 and 10 are closest, and US would've used more .22 .308 and .45 for military purposes at that time post-ww2. but I do love a good AK-47!

Exactly

Modern assault rifle was not introduced in to US army before 1960 and term "assault rifle" itself was for a first time used in 1972 so you may as well claim that what they define as a assault rifle might not be what we define as assault rifle. Original light machine guns indeed were designed for assault role. But in context of a game taking place in alternative future that's perhaps searching for reasons where there are none.

There's simply no reason why assault rifle in alternative future could not look like one in Fallout.

assault rifle: any of various automatic or semiautomatic rifles with large capacity magazines designed for military use

source: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/assault%20rifle

Technology mindset didn't stop in the 50s. The 50s was mostly for architecture and cosmetic look. Also, a lot of events still took place, it is heavily implied that both the Korean and Vietnam wars still took place.

You have a source on original devs saying they regret putting any guns past the 1950s in the games? Cuz I have never heard that, once. Not to mention a lot of gun manufacturers(if not all of them) existed prior to the time divergence, and they would continue to make guns, which is why in FO 1 and 2 and such we have things like 12.7 mm pistols, smgs, AR, the assault rifle in FO 1 and 2 was designed sometime in the 2000s, etc etc.

Except those Assault Rifles did exist in earlier FO games, including FO 3.

My only gripe on Aesthetics is the fact that laser rifles like take up 40-50% of the screen. A missile launcher takes up less screen.

.308 is 7.62. First one is measured in inches and second in millimeters but they are the same caliber.

In no Fallout game except Fallout NV there was weapon resembling M4A1.

Except the AER9 was the general issue service rifle in America. The AER9 being the laser rifle in this game.

Personally, I way prefer the current weapons to anything resembling modern weapons. Works way better with the world for me.

.308 = 7.82 mm

I second that. They fit Fallout retro futurism style better then in any other previous Fallouts. I like F4 weapon design. I am much less satisfied with armors.

Yup.

This, pretty much.

I mean, i didn't wanted to be moaning or crying over it, just stated an opinion wondering how the looks of weapons changed this path, feeling maybe somebody would agree with my thoughts.

I mean, in FO3 and NV you've these which are looking as ACTUAL and PROPER weapons, so they do fit in the lore just as much.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Assault_rifle_%28Fallout_3%29

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/10mm_submachine_gun_%28Fallout_3%29

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Service_rifle

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Assault_carbine

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Marksman_carbine

Now i am using a "[two shot] Machinegun", Thompson alike smg, its fine, anyway, as i WANT to feel out of time and not using laser weapons considering my character wouldn't feel comfortable with it as he'd never use one before getting out of the vault.

Except:

a, Fallout is not ACTUAL. It's ALTERNATIVE and FICTIONAL.

b, Whether weapon is PROPER or not is not measured by it's look but how well it does job for which it was designed for.

You are just trying to make your subjective dislike (to which you are fully entitled) look like objective in order to give it some weight. For that to happen you simply use words like "actual" and "proper" out of their defined meaning.

Actual: Existing in reality and not potential, possible, simulated, or false.

So what you actually do is blaming Fallout 4 for being science fiction game. Doesn't make much sense.

Isn't .308 and 7.62 basically the same (.308 being "civilian" 7.62)? Also, isn't the Fo4 Assault Rifle still 5.56?