Sorry, I'm not giving ANY hints this early
If anyone does find the Easter Egg (without looking for it in the CS) then I'd like to know about it.


I'm working on a MOBS version now. I'm hesitant to try an OMOBS version because, from what I've read at least, OMOBS doesn't adjust the vanilla Amber and Madness weapons...and I'd rather not get into trying to do that, as well as adjusting the ones WEPON adds! That said, I'm not familiar with OMOBS and could be wrong.

One question: what sort of stat adjustments would you guys recommend I make for the Orcish weapons in MOBS? (The Mithril ones I can just base off of Silver.)


EDIT: Per feedback, we're considering redoing the Orcish weapons, since the current models are just retextured Iron, and look nothing like the Orcish weapons in Morrowind. Would any experienced weapons designers be interested?

MOBS and OMOBS are not that different. OMOBS being more or less Oscuro's tweaking of MOBS. For most circumstances anything MOBS related will work fine alongside anything OMOBS adjusted.

The great difference between the two systems is on Bows. MOBS make them more damaging.
Since I'm not on work for one week I'm planing to look on extending OMOBS system to the whole Shivering Isles weapons as have done Francesco in his overhaul. I don't understand why Corepc is hesitant to go further in developing Nightmare OOO Shivering Isles.

Maybe it is the curse of the overhaul makers. If one attempts to overhaul the entire official content one is svcked into a bermuda triangle type area - or secretly recruited to develop govt programs.
Dev gone, Veritas gone ... maybe CorePC is smart enough not to go too far.

LOL watch out Psymon.. word on the street is that it can happen to players too :hubbahubba:

I'm working on OMOBS Shivering Isles and I found this document in Tes4Mod:FCOM - UESPWiki:
http://devnull.sweetdanger.net/OOO/OMOBS_Weapon_Stats.7z

Wow! We just made TESNexus' "hot files" list! The other authors and I never expected such an enthusiastic response from the community. Thanks for the feedback, suggestions, and endorsemants that made it possible.

(O)MOBS version is planned for release within the next two weeks.

OMOBS version still in development. Possible release Sunday!

So, has anyone tried out Shimmerstrike or the Blood Axe yet? If so, what did you think of them?

Well, I didn't manage to get the MOBS version completed this weekend, but it is in progress! I need to study a bit more how to introduce the new Mithril and Orcish sets into MOBS, since MOBS doesn't define the stats for those sets.

About the new SI weapons, what about having some system to upgrade them when the upper versions become available with higher player levels? Or is such a system already in place? Something like what http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=13536 does, though it doesn't support those weapons. Amber and madness gear cost little raw materials, but the magical ones require matrices and its VERY hard to stumble upon the needed one. I use a mod that makes their enchantments worthwhile, and thus prefer to save them until level 25+ for getting the highest versions.

I'm thinking of some possibilities. A script like the one from quest award leveler to upgrade the magical armor and weapons with your level can be a bit too cheatish and cumbersome. Fran's mod had a system of 3 different types of ore, and higher quality ones were needed for creating the higher level gear. But this system may differ a bit too much from vanilla.
Finally, since matrices in general aren't all that difficult to find, how about dialogue options to swap one of your matrices with another one (i.e. the smith 'reatunes' it to a new gear piece). Thus, even if you decide to forge magical gear at low levels, you could later find more matrices and forge higher level gear exchanging them, and also put matrices you already have in stock to good use. Also how about dialogue to reforge your gear into durable versions once you become Sheogorath?

I'd prefer not to be able to swap matrix types, kinda defeats the point of having different matrices at all if you can turn any of them into any other one.

but I do think it would be quite awesome if the SI smiths could upgrade your existing amber/madness gear to higher quality and durable versions for the cost of a few more amber/madness ore (assuming you meet the level requirements). It wouldn't even be much of a shortcut or cheat, seeing as how in vanilla you can upgrade your gear by simply forging new ones and selling the old ones for a nice profit. An upgrade option would just allow you do essentially the same thing for enchanted version without having to find a new identical matrix. Upgrading the quality of your gear should grant a hefty discount over forging entirely new ones (since they would need less raw material), but upgrading it into a durable version should be really expensive in raw material, this would give you a reason to save up all those extra amber and ore you find other than wanting to collect all the equipment types.

By request, a MOBS (OOO, Fran's, FCOM) compatible version of WEPON has been released! You can get it at the link for WEPON that is in my signature.

Enjoy!

You have no idea how much it helps to have to download just the update instead of the entire 26 MB again! Thanks a million! Endorsemant time!

A MOBS version, and much sooner than I expected! Thank you very much.

You're welcome! Regarding your spoiler question - those are saved for future development, I'd rather not spoil anything about them at the moment

Now that someone has posted a hint on how to find the Easter Egg weapon on TESNexus' comments for WEPON, has anyone given it a try? If so, what did you think?

Here's a repost of that hint:

Migck, I'd be inclined to agree with you. This Easter Egg is very difficult to find, even if you are well-versed with past Elder Scrolls easter eggs!

So, has anyone found the Easter Egg yet in WEPON? If so, was it without using the hints or looking it up in the Construction Set?
I'm thinking the next version of WEPON should include a few subtle clues...

I just posted a small update, 1.03, that rescales the Amber Scimitar (making it look less anime-ish), and makes a few other small adjustments.
You can get the update at the WEPON link in my signature.

Some of you may be interested in the small update I posted to WEPON yesterday. (The link is in my signature.)
I updated the main installations to the latest version, repacked them so that they would not be quite as large, and made a couple corrections to the "Fixes Only" versions.

By the way, if you're interested in the types of fixes WEPON makes (beyond those made by the official or unofficial patches), you can visit these pages:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Unresolved_Minor_Issues
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Shivering:Unresolved_Minor_Issues (page in progress)

Is work still going on around the new Orcish and Mithril weapons models?

Spiney and Ionis have been working on new Orcish weapons, but it's been a while since I've spoken with them about it. They've got some fantastic ideas though. Kriscrash has been working on new Mithril weapons which also look great, which she's planning on releasing as a standalone set. You can see their progress http://forums.uesp.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=19808. As for me--well, I've just been trying to learn my way around Nifskope.

In the meantime, we have a LOT more plans in place for further WEPON development, as described http://forums.uesp.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=19810. The plans call for creating a complete Adamantium weapon set, as well as two others, and three new sets of armor. I don't suppose anyone would be interested in that work?

If anyone is interested, I finally finished documenting all of the vanilla content issues fixed by WEPON, on UESP. This is a much easier-to-read version of the spreadsheet already included with WEPON.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Unresolved_Minor_Issues
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Shivering:Unresolved_Minor_Issues

I would appreciate feedback of any kind on these issues. I've received few if any comments on this part of WEPON.

I think consistency is good, and having corrected stats for weapons where Bethesda screwed up is a mighty fine idea. I was watching the discussion in the UOP thread about this, and am glad that your effort regarding this was included here for those who like consistency.

PS: I thought WEPON should be added to the leveled lists in the bashed patch - is that not how you intended it to be? Does John's JLLO take care of adding WEPON to the LLs too?

Thank you! I know that most people who have looked at this effort just thought I was being too picky or perfectionist. (After all, the authors of the unofficial patch supplemental have declined to include these changes in their patch.) Maybe I was being too picky; but I too like consistency and accuracy, and restoring Oblivion to what Bethesda probably intended was my goal.

Yes, WEPON shold be added to leveled lists; both the DELEV and the RELEV bash tags should be used. Arguably, the most important changes WEPON makes requires leveled list updates. Have you seen somewhere (BOSS etc.) where those tags are not listed?
Unfortunately, I'm not familiar enough with JLLO yet to comment on whether it adds WEPON to leveled lists.

I will be starting a complete audit of armor soon