Posts have been edited. We don't need to bring politics or countries into this discussion. Not only is it off-topic as far as I can see - it's not going to go anywhere productive.

lol, I saw nothing political and I definately took no offence

I've been in Navy, I've used G3 (shot target papers actually ) and that weapons is heavy and its backfire is hard to handle also it's quite noisy too. And it nearly destroys the subject in one hit. So in any game I've played G3 didn't feel real as I used it in real life.
So a game doesn't need to be realistic especially a game like Brink which uses a look between cartoonish and realistic environment. A game just need to be "entertaining". If you are making a realistic war game a realistic aproach would be good, but not in this game, not in Call of Duty, not in Battlefield. So differenet rules aplies here, discussing "what is realistic and what is not" is pointless.

All I'm saying this game looks perfect in everyway except those death animations BUT I also think we can't be sure till we see more gameplay videos BUT I opened this thread to prevent my concern to happen .
That Killzone 2 video looks quite good but still can't determine if it's good hit detection

And another thing, look at the gif I provided again, if the death animation is changed with less "jumpy" one it could look better but we still need an animation when he recieves hit.


EDIT: Faster version of the killzone 2 slowmo video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xO7plk6VDk

EDIT 2: So I watched gameplay videos of Bad Company 2, Modern Warfare 2, Killzone 2, Black Ops and I noticed there is no hit animation. That effect delivered by just crosshair blinking and a sound after a kill with cool death animation. That gave players the satisiffaction after a frag. I think that is it. What do you think?
Also I would like to know the opinion of someone professional, maybe from a animator from the developer of Brink? Are they commenting on the forums? (or the question is are they allowed to )

@OP

That looks like an early build, wouldn't panic too much. In the later builds you can see things like EXP numbers and blood splashes, the guy falls on his rear (:)) ready to be picked up by a medic (if not shot in the face a few more times).

Yep I saw another Brinks' gameplay video from E3, very early version indeed but animations are the same: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPRWvbWzV-k

Doesnt really bother me that much... I shoot him.. he falls down and dies. Next

No respectable gamer plays call of duty.

This isn't an early version of brink. Container city part 1 2 an 3 are early versions of brink And the character customization dev diary is too.

The video you posted has a Hud (Not as refined as the Pax demo) and the new character customization. (Where it's a 3d menu, zoom in on parts thing, Instead of the lists.)

So that video comes pretty close to the PAX 10 bomb disposal version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSXr_85Ctm8

This is the latest video?
It's terrible! Look at 0:34

It was the latest vid and you know what? I don't care about ragdoll or a death animation like other games, here you can be revived. What would a great animation add to te game if it makes a certain game mechanic more difficult (revives)

I never said the hit/death animations were any better. Just that this is the latest vid. Also the rest looks good (And the death animations don't bother me)

EDIT: I Watched it again and apart from the guy flying too far backwards, the death animation wasn't that bad. it's not like he was shot from the side or behind.



I suppose you could have a proper death animation, but have the character roll over onto back if not already on it.

yes, but death animations consume time. I can't count the games in ET where we did a ladt second dynamite plant and went into overtime. You had 2 options: the defending team defuses within 30 seconds and wins or they didn't defuse and lost. Those 2 seconds of death animation can then really make the difference.

The last 30 seconds were always the most intense ones. Do you see what I'm trying to tell?

Lol you will get no arguments from me, I don't mind the brink death animations. Down is down, move so I can keep shooting an save ya life lol. :ahhh:

Ow right and thanks for the revive lol

0:52 looks alright (guy on the left side).
3:49 looks alright as well (basicly the same like 0:52)
3:58 as well.

Yea I agree, they looked alright. I guess the problems might start happening if you shoot them in the side and they still go back like that. But It doesn't affect me personally, I don't mind the death animations.

(Off-ish topic)
Wait at 0:29-0:31. I was told in one of my threads that in brink you couldn't go prone. But that's not a slide (also no damage taken) and the little man icon is laying down (I.e not the crouched icon).
So was whoever smashed my dreams of laying down (Prone) wrong?
Also why does it go blurry?

Well, the symbol on the bottom center displays he is sliding at that moment. Probably against the wall, which makes him not move. The blur is caused by some flashbang which must have blown up not too close.

Oh, ok. He just didn't seen that close to the wall...
Please don't tell me Brink will have those really unrealistic barriers against walls that makes being really close, well not so close.

As a matter of fact, he was not really close. I just tried to explain why he didn't move forward. Perhaps "not enough momentum" or "movement error" would've made more sense. Because if you move really close to a wall, your avatar will actually move his gun up, as you can see at 0:42.

Oh ok cool.

His gun may done that because he was close to/facing an objective.

No, it does that whenever you get close to a wall.

(Just like in Mirror's Edge, btw. Which isn't even a shooter in the first place.)

There is some video, I think it's one of the container ones, there is a ''dead guy'' model, he's sitting in a rather awkward stance, anyone know what I mean? I can see if I find the video

If it's not the pax or eurogamer footage, then it might be outdated footage. Other vids are alpha version or even pre-alpha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSXr_85Ctm8

3:43 - Is this the one you mean? Even if its not, its still pretty weird looking lol