[Monique Cameron]

aight man than im going with an exploding dolphin with a death ray attached to its forehead thats shot of the mirv 2.0...dolphin edition hahahahah

[kasia]

What's the difference between the grenade launcher and the grenade rifle?

And you could have a full auto sniper rifle, if you modded a semi auto rifle to fire in full auto, it would just be very difficult to actually snipe with.

It might work if say, it was a .22

What makes something a sniping rifle is the application, not any mechanical specifications. You can effectively snipe over open sights. Since we're talking application here, not configuration, then the application equivilent to a full-auto weapon is fire superiority and suppression. Since sniping, precision shooting intended on a point target, is the antithis of supressive fire, the application of high volumes of fire to keep enemy return fire to a minimum, you can't have a full-auto sniper. You could squeeze off one round at a time from a M2HB, just like Carlos Hathcock did, but as soon as you fat finger the spoons on that baby you're no longer sniping.

.22 isn't exactly a sniper worthy bullet....

It is easliy supressed and is leathal out to maybe 100m. Not a sniper round in the "shoot them from a mile away" sense, but since sniping is defined as

1. (Military) (when intr, often foll by at) to attack (a person or persons) with a rifle from a place of concealment

Then you could effectively employ a .22 rifle as a sniping rifle. And supression would certainly help you with the close engagment ranges.

It would make more speculative sense if a grenade "rifle" fired 25mm rounds instead of 40mm, considering that a rifle is generally more accurate and a 25 would be longer ranged.

I tend to think you may be right here. Objectively this makes sense, it's just that the pictures of the grenade rifle seem to show it with a barrel more the larger 40mm size. I couldn't get a good shot of the Grenade Rifle pip-boy entry. Maybe I'll give it another try.

aight man than im going with an exploding dolphin with a death ray attached to its forehead thats shot of the mirv 2.0...dolphin edition hahahahah

I like what you've done here. Adding the MIRV angle is pretty nice. I'm starting to warm up to this idea.

On a seperate note, what do I have to do to straighten up the mess that is the wiki weapons page? EP, pm me with what I gotta do, would you?

[JLG]

What makes something a sniping rifle is the application, not any mechanical specifications. You can effectively snipe over open sights. Since we're talking application here, not configuration, then the application equivilent to a full-auto weapon is fire superiority and suppression. Since sniping, precision shooting intended on a point target, is the antithis of supressive fire, the application of high volumes of fire to keep enemy return fire to a minimum, you can't have a full-auto sniper. You could squeeze off one round at a time from a M2HB, just like Carlos Hathcock did, but as soon as you fat finger the spoons on that baby you're no longer sniping.


On a seperate note, what do I have to do to straighten up the mess that is the wiki weapons page? EP, pm me with what I gotta do, would you?

Yeah, but if you have one target, and you can reliably hit him with 4 out of 5 full auto rounds in a burst, aren't you still sniping?

If you could magdump from a good distance and riddle someone with bullets, wouldn't you still be sniping?

I guess you could call it long distance suppression... but.

As for fixing up the weapons page, well, you just need to use the edit button is all.

[Amanda Furtado]

@ .46ACP thanks man been puttin a lot of thought into it B)

[alicia hillier]

Yeah, but if you have one target, and you can reliably hit him with 4 out of 5 full auto rounds in a burst, aren't you still sniping?

If you could magdump from a good distance and riddle someone with bullets, wouldn't you still be sniping?

I guess you could call it long distance suppression... but.

As for fixing up the weapons page, well, you just need to use the edit button is all.

I have yet to fire any shoulder fired weapon that can reliably get more than two rounds in full-auto in a man sized target at normal engagement range before the recoil takes you off target. Not saying there aren't any, but I sure haven't seen any.

[DAVId MArtInez]

Can anyone explain to me what a SMG Light Bolt is?

I don't see a Grease gun having a drum magazine ethier, not a compact grease gun anyway . . .

[Julie Serebrekoff]

what about a sniper rifle that shoots 5 bullets at the exact same time? The first shot is basically the only shot you need then... could that be done? cause that would be the most absolute sickest looking gun ever made

[Tiffany Castillo]

On a seperate note, what do I have to do to straighten up the mess that is the wiki weapons page? EP, pm me with what I gotta do, would you?

I wish I knew. Someone really needs to clean that page up, and you seem to be the best for the job.

By the way, when did you stop "Gunny Out"?

[BEl J]

@.46ACP hey man what about a sniper rifle that shoots 5 bullets at the exact same time? The first shot is basically the only shot you need then... could that be done? cause that would be the most absolute sickest looking gun ever made or would the recoil from it basically tear your shoulder off of your body?

[David Chambers]

Can anyone explain to me what a SMG Light Bolt is?

I don't see a Grease gun having a drum magazine ethier.

*Most* SMGs use a straight blowback recoil action. How this works is when a round is fired, the pressures inside the case from the exploding propellant cause the case to expand against the sides of the chamber. This is usually not enough force to keep a cartridge together, but it is helped by the resistance of the mass of the bolt. The bolt is basically the "plug" that closes off the rear of the chamber. As the bullet travels out of te barrel, and pressures inside the barrel drop to safe levels, the bolt inertia is overcome and it begins to cycle rearward, taking the spent case with it. The bolt travels rearward agaist the pressure of the action spring. When the inertia of the moving bolt is overcome by the spring, the bolt begins to travel forward, feeding a new cartridge into the chamber and initiating the firing cycle all over again. The lighter the bolt, the quicker the resting inertia is overcome to begin it's rearward travel, and the quicker the rearward inertia is overcome to begin it's forward inertia. So the lighter the bolt, the faster the action cycles. The faster the action cycles, the faster the weapon fires.

-Gunny out.


PS sometimes the gunny forgets things.

[Liv Brown]

what about a sniper rifle that shoots 5 bullets at the exact same time? The first shot is basically the only shot you need then... could that be done? cause that would be the most absolute sickest looking gun ever made

maybe if it was chambered in 22.LR, had 5 barrels and some type of multi-pin. but it would weigh a lot and probably be less effective than, say a 308.

I don't know if it would rip your shoulder off, only one way to find out...

[Vickey Martinez]

maybe if it was chambered in 22.LR, had 5 barrels and some type of multi-pin. but it would weigh a lot and probably be less effective than, say a 308.

yea that was what i was talkin about... that thing would be pretty cool man

[Horse gal smithe]

@.46ACP hey man what about a sniper rifle that shoots 5 bullets at the exact same time? The first shot is basically the only shot you need then... could that be done? cause that would be the most absolute sickest looking gun ever made or would the recoil from it basically tear your shoulder off of your body?

I'm much more of a WWI WWII rifle guy, but my understanding of current weapons is that some have a selector that enables a super fast cyclic rate of fire for the first 2 rounds, then slows down after that. What you basically get is two bullets leaving the barrel so close together that recoil forces don't have a chance to move your point of aim.

Also, I believe I recall some of the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8hlj4EbdsE with cyclic rates so fast the they accomplish the same as above, but by firing off a number of stacked rounds at the same time.

-Gunny out.

[mimi_lys]

I'm much more of a WWI WWII rifle guy, but my understanding of current weapons is that some have a selector that enables a super fast cyclic rate of fire for the first 2 rounds, then slows down after that. What you basically get is two bullets leaving the barrel so close together that recoil forces don't have a chance to move your point of aim.

Also, I believe I recall some of the metal storm weapons with cyclic rates so fast the they accomplish the same as above, but by firing off a number of stacked rounds at the same time.

I was just thinking about stacking the rounds, maybe using caseless ammunition like they used with the G11?

[Tiffany Carter]

@.46ACP hey man what about a sniper rifle that shoots 5 bullets at the exact same time? The first shot is basically the only shot you need then... could that be done? cause that would be the most absolute sickest looking gun ever made or would the recoil from it basically tear your shoulder off of your body?

How would it fire 5 at the exact same time? Unless you have 5 chambers and 5 barrels.

[Sian Ennis]

lol so my idea isn't crazily impossible? it can actually be done? cool i was just throwin stuff out there

[Emzy Baby!]

I was just thinking about stacking the rounds, maybe using caseless ammunition like they used with the G11?

How would it fire 5 at the exact same time? Unless you have 5 chambers and 5 barrels.

lol so my idea isn't crazily impossible? it can actually be done? cool i was just throwin stuff out there

Please see the above video linked in my previous post. Make sure you watch til the end.

-Gunny out.

[Smokey]

dude!!!! holy sh** they need to put that gun into action!!! wipe out half a army in half a second man

[Cathrine Jack]

I don't see a Grease gun having a drum magazine ethier, not a compact grease gun anyway . . .

Doesn't have to be compact anymore, given that Fallout doesn't care about the volume of equipment you carry around inside your invisible bag. Modified guns have their appearances changed, so I would imagine if the grease gun gets a drum magazine it will enlarge accordingly.

[louise tagg]

It is easliy supressed and is leathal out to maybe 100m. Not a sniper round in the "shoot them from a mile away" sense, but since sniping is defined as

1. (Military) (when intr, often foll by at) to attack (a person or persons) with a rifle from a place of concealment

Then you could effectively employ a .22 rifle as a sniping rifle. And supression would certainly help you with the close engagment ranges.

Oh, well in my mind, I categorize sniper rifles as using some of the higher calibers 7.62, .338 etc. and lower calibers like 5.56 as Marksman or Assault Rifles, but thats just my mind. Also, I wouldn't mind seeing the .408 in-game, but I guess it's too late for that.

[Hazel Sian ogden]

Please see the above video linked in my previous post. Make sure you watch til the end.

-Gunny out.

Holy [censored]. That'd be expensive as hell to fire...once. Do you know what its firing?

[Sandeep Khatkar]

Holy [censored]. That'd be expensive as hell to fire...once. Do you know what its firing?

the great thing is... you only need to fire it once haha :gun:

[Emma]

the great thing is... you only need to fire it once haha :gun:

I doubt it, if its firing that fast then its only firing in one place, there not time to make a sweeping motion to hit multiple enemies. Seems highly inefficient, but awesome none the less.

[Lauren Dale]

I doubt it, if its firing that fast then its only firing in one place, there not time to make a sweeping motion to hit multiple enemies. Seems highly inefficient, but awesome none the less.

lol if i was on the side that was getting hit with that id throw out the white towel within seconds of finishing sh**ing my pants.

[Hannah Barnard]

lol if i was on the side that was getting hit with that id throw out the white towel within seconds of finishing sh**ing my pants.

I don't think it'd be anti-personnel anyway, more likely for vehicles and what not.