[Sami Blackburn]

How can I make all of the mods inside the weather patch green? Also, out of curiosity is the weather patch still doing its thing if the mod masters are orange inside the patch?

You can't make them all green, and you shouldn't bother trying either.

It's a filter mod, so it doesn't make any difference what order the files are in in your load order. The data is pulled out from there and used in the bashed patch. The filter itself is never active in the game.

[Fluffer]

Odd. I'll take a look at that for the next release.

Its the Wizard.txt file you have for the BAIN installation. It gets mistaken for the readme rather than the actual readme itself.

[Rhiannon Jones]

I took some screenshots of the Skingrad house on a nice sunny day. Turning on the chandelier in the dining room did not affect the daytime lighting. I've included a shot of the Skingrad bedroom, which is unchanged.

http://i855.photobucket.com/albums/ab118/AndalayBay/Oblivion/SkingradBedroom.jpg (no change from regular Real Lights)
http://i855.photobucket.com/albums/ab118/AndalayBay/Oblivion/SkingradDiningRm1.jpg (with lit chandelier)
http://i855.photobucket.com/albums/ab118/AndalayBay/Oblivion/SkingradDiningRm2.jpg (with lit chandelier)

I'll take some screenshots of Bruma when I get up there and it's a sunny day...

[Mark Hepworth]

I took some screenshots of the Skingrad house on a nice sunny day. Turning on the chandelier in the dining room did not affect the daytime lighting. I've included a shot of the Skingrad bedroom, which is unchanged.

http://i855.photobucket.com/albums/ab118/AndalayBay/Oblivion/SkingradBedroom.jpg (no change from regular Real Lights)
http://i855.photobucket.com/albums/ab118/AndalayBay/Oblivion/SkingradDiningRm1.jpg (with lit chandelier)
http://i855.photobucket.com/albums/ab118/AndalayBay/Oblivion/SkingradDiningRm2.jpg (with lit chandelier)

I'll take some screenshots of Bruma when I get up there and it's a sunny day...

Nice bedroom screenshot. :thumbsup: I'd upload it to Nexus if we had one of the same place without AN and RL, but we don't.

[Jonny]

I read through the readme about the bash patching. While it was clear on what I should make sure to select, it didn't really tell me what I shouldn't do. Do I generally want to Select All on Import Cells? I'm using FCOM and the unofficial patches for oblivion, si, and the dlc.

If so, when would you not want to import cells from everything?

[Jessie Rae Brouillette]

Nice bedroom screenshot. :thumbsup: I'd upload it to Nexus if we had one of the same place without AN and RL, but we don't.

I'll see if I can get you one So, will you turn on the chandelier in RL? This is a continuation of my previous posts, a few days ago, in this thread...

[Sara Lee]

I'll see if I can get you one So, will you turn on the chandelier in RL? This is a continuation of my previous posts, a few days ago, in this thread...

Up to Arthmoor, but I don't see why not.

[k a t e]

I read through the readme about the bash patching. While it was clear on what I should make sure to select, it didn't really tell me what I shouldn't do. Do I generally want to Select All on Import Cells? I'm using FCOM and the unofficial patches for oblivion, si, and the dlc.

If so, when would you not want to import cells from everything?

Import Cells is one of the sections where you are better off importing everything. Any plugins that should not be checked in areas where they appear in the Bashed Patch should have that information specified in their docs. The only exception I know of with all thousand mods I currently have in my BAIN setup is OOO. Its configuration varies depending upon what overhaul combination it is being used with is all. Most mods do not have such special considerations. The sections that are basically completely optional are Import Graphics, Import Stats and Import Names. You probably should import stats if you want your mods (whichever have the stats tag) balance retained, but checking or unchecking plugins in the other two sections will not break anything.

AN's ReadMe is very clear about telling you to check the AN plugins that appear in that section. If your problem is using Wrye Bash or its Bashed Patch in general, post in the Bash thread. AN's instructions have nothing to do with which plugins you select in which sections for FCOM and other mods. In my opinion, you are better off checking plugins where they appear than not, unless specifically noted otherwise in the ReadMe for the mod.

[April D. F]

I really want to run this mod, but unfortunately, I am getting a consistent CTD on any EXTERIOR cells when enabling it.

As soon as I load the game, the crash takes place after running a few steps. Removing the mod removes the crash, which takes place with the weather section, the lights standalone, or the whole combo.

I followed all the settings in the readme, and have the proper OBSE and Bash versions, and also tweaked streamline as suggested. I am suspecting there must be a mod conflict. Please take a look at my load order and let me know if something looks wrong, or if there's a known mod in it to cause this problem.

Thanks in advance!
Load order:

Spoiler

= Check ModsThis is a report on your currently active/merged mods.=== MergeableFollowing mods are active, but could be merged into the bashed patch.* Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer.esp=== Active Mod Files:* 00  Oblivion.esm* 01  GTAesgaard_2.esm* 02  Jog_X_Mod.esm* 03  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9.5]* 04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]* 05  Ulrim's Horses.esm* 06  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]* 07  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 08  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]* 09  Waalx Animals & Creatures.esm* 0A  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm* 0B  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm* 0C  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]* 0D  Better Cities Resources.esm* 0E  BetterMusicSystem.esm* 0F  CURP_Controller.esm* 10  CM Partners.esm* 11  HorseCombatMaster.esm* 12  ShieldOnBack.esm  [Version 3.3]* **  Oblivion Vwalk.esp* **  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]* **  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]* 13  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3]* 14  DLCShiveringIsles.esp* 15  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]* 16  SM Plugin Refurbish - 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No Uberhulks.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* ++  Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Reduced Reduced.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 4C  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 4D  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 4E  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 4F  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* ++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* ++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 50  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.4]* 51  WAC.esp* 52  WAC - OverSpawn.esp* 53  WAC - TCOS.esp* 54  WAC - TCOS Shops.esp  [Version 03]* 55  WAC - BlackBootDungeon.esp* 56  WAC - Dead Knights.esp* 57  WAC - Magic.esp* 58  WAC - Player Summons.esp* ++  WAC-OOO.esp* ++  Travellers4MMMHostileFactions.esp  [Version 1.39c]* 59  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]* **  TamrielTravellers4OOO Vwalk.esp* 5A  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp  [Version 1.39c]* 5B  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]* 5C  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]* **  ShiveringIsleTravellers Vwalk.esp* ++  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp  [Version 1.39c]* **  LoadingScreens-OOO.esp* 5D  Shield on Back Plugin - 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[Milad Hajipour]

Are you sure the problem is AN? Do you have all of its plugins checked in the Bashed Patch?

[Lil Miss]

:facepalm: So i just went and l was looking through to see what I've added and deleted through my oldest save and my newest save and just noticed i didn't have real lights activated. I'm an idiot.

[Ashley Clifft]

So...any brainwaves as to my little problem in the week-ish since I last poked my nose into this thread? I know Arthmoor at least said he had no clue what was wrong, but I can always hope for a moment of inspiration...

[Harinder Ghag]

Are you sure the problem is AN? Do you have all of its plugins checked in the Bashed Patch?

I am sure the problem is related to AN since disabling it removes the crash right away. This crash happens after a few seconds of loading the game and moving a few steps with AN enabled.
However, I don't think the problem is AN itself, since obviously others are running it fine. So I suspect it is conflicting with another mod, hence I posted my load order in case anyone can identify the culprit.

[RAww DInsaww]

How does this mod handle storm frequency? I gave up S&S after using this mod for a while, but I may add it back just because I miss the frequent rainstorms (the close lightning...not so much.) Could storm frequency be added as an INI setting as well, or would that be a fairly complicated addition? I wonder if I could just cut the altered lightning out of Deathless Aphrodite's mod. The fearsome thunder was pretty nice too. It has been a while since I have experienced a real AN storm.

[dell]

So...any brainwaves as to my little problem in the week-ish since I last poked my nose into this thread? I know Arthmoor at least said he had no clue what was wrong, but I can always hope for a moment of inspiration...

Nope, sorry. Though I've been busy with BOSS and haven't really been working on this. :blush:

I am sure the problem is related to AN since disabling it removes the crash right away. This crash happens after a few seconds of loading the game and moving a few steps with AN enabled.
However, I don't think the problem is AN itself, since obviously others are running it fine. So I suspect it is conflicting with another mod, hence I posted my load order in case anyone can identify the culprit.

Try loading Oblivion with just All Natural active. That should tell you if it is another mod conflicting, or whether it's just AN being crazy on your PC.

[Theodore Walling]

I am sure the problem is related to AN since disabling it removes the crash right away. This crash happens after a few seconds of loading the game and moving a few steps with AN enabled.
However, I don't think the problem is AN itself, since obviously others are running it fine. So I suspect it is conflicting with another mod, hence I posted my load order in case anyone can identify the culprit.

Have you got Autoghost switched on in Wrye Bash? I crash like this without it. No relation to All Natural just the amount of ESMs, ESPs and BSAs in the Data folder.

[Monika]

this was weird, So I reinstalled AN with real lights running this time since I some how missed installing it last time. Well when I built my patch the went to play I got missing meshes in the chapels. Well I went back and looked and for some reason it was merging AN. So I went and activated the files it said were removed from last time and things worked fine. I don't know why Wrye bash automatically went and merged the files.

[Amy Siebenhaar]

this was weird, So I reinstalled AN with real lights running this time since I some how missed installing it last time. Well when I built my patch the went to play I got missing meshes in the chapels. Well I went back and looked and for some reason it was merging AN. So I went and activated the files it said were removed from last time and things worked fine. I don't know why Wrye bash automatically went and merged the files.

Highlight the AN plugin and use the mark mergeable function to see if Bash corrects itself. It will be awesome when Bash can merge cell modification though...


Edit: When that happens, more plugins will need NoMerge tags in order to ensure that mods' BSAs are loaded, haha.

[james reed]

@tofolo
Yeah, I use autoghost in Wrye Bash.

@ wrinklyninja
I disabled all other mods, with only AN enabled, and I had no crashes. So definitely the problem is not AN by itself, but due to some mod conflict as I suspected.

[Sarah Unwin]

@tofolo
Yeah, I use autoghost in Wrye Bash.

@ wrinklyninja
I disabled all other mods, with only AN enabled, and I had no crashes. So definitely the problem is not AN by itself, but due to some mod conflict as I suspected.

Ok. You're still running close to 255 active mods so depending on the number of BSAs this could still be a factor. You could try removing other mods like MRP to reduce your count. :shrug:

[Bek Rideout]

Ok. You're still running close to 255 active mods so depending on the number of BSAs this could still be a factor. You could try removing other mods like MRP to reduce your count. :shrug:

Nothing jumps out at me, so it looks like you'll have to start disabling mods and see if that fixes things. If it is a specific mod, then a binary search for it (deactivate half your mods and repeat till it works, then you know which bit of your LO has the problem, then activate those files one at a time). If it's just you hitting the limit, then it won't give any specific mod, just that it'll only work when you've got under a certain number of mods installed (or is it active?).

[Chloe :)]

Nothing jumps out at me, so it looks like you'll have to start disabling mods and see if that fixes things. If it is a specific mod, then a binary search for it (deactivate half your mods and repeat till it works, then you know which bit of your LO has the problem, then activate those files one at a time). If it's just you hitting the limit, then it won't give any specific mod, just that it'll only work when you've got under a certain number of mods installed (or is it active?).

Active limit (plugins only) is 255

Installed limit (including BSAs) is 300-400+, varies by unknown factors

[Sarah Kim]

Active limit (plugins only) is 255

Installed limit (including BSAs) is 300-400+, varies by unknown factors

I don't think you get problems approaching the active limit, so I'm guessing it would have to be the installed limit, in which case he'd have to move files from his Data folder to test it, right?

[Nina Mccormick]

I don't think you get problems approaching the active limit, so I'm guessing it would have to be the installed limit, in which case he'd have to move files from his Data folder to test it, right?

Some system's instability seem to increase as they approach 255, but the symptoms of reaching the soft cap are very noticeable. I say go ahead with the binary search at this point.

[Connor Wing]

Active limit (plugins only) is 255

Installed limit (including BSAs) is 300-400+, varies by unknown factors

I tried disabling misc mods to come well under the limit, but the problem persists. I guess I'll do half as you suggested until I find the culprit. I'll report back once I do.