[WIPz/RELz] Weather: All Natural, Thread 17 : IV - Oblivion

» Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:55 am

Ive had some problems with All Natural like this http://www.xfire.com/video/18fe70/ and Real lights not working as thay should http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/9c5644a326162d654dee53ee106ad4b122502ede.png http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/559e031e5e9714d49eb5ccd399c37af7e7e968f3.png http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/5d46d0c285b59a0175f1ed2e79cf217fc557a88d.png http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/b33710e2787bac0721969740dd5a80aaaf280a2e.png.

00 Oblivion.esm
01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 0.9.7]
02 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
03 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
04 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]
05 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
06 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
07 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3]
08 Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.3]
09 Artifacts.esm
0A Better Cities Resources.esm
0B CM Partners.esm
0C HorseCombatMaster.esm
0D SkycaptainsBloodTime.esp
0E Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0]
0F UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]
10 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
11 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
12 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]
13 SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp [Version 1.05]
14 Better Cities .esp
15 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
16 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
17 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
18 Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp
19 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]
1A FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]
1B Fran Armor Add-on.esp
1C Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp
1D Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
1E All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 0.9.7]
1F All Natural.esp [Version 0.9.7]
20 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 0.9.7]
++ All Natural - NW + AWS.esp [Version 0.9.6]
++ Symphony of Violence.esp
21 MIS Low Wind.esp
22 MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp
++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.76]
23 KF Chapel Shop.esp
24 Lock Bash Omega.esp [Version 1.3]
25 BetterMusicSystem.esp
26 DLCOrrery.esp
27 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]
28 SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp [Version 1.03]
29 DLCVileLair.esp
2A DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
++ SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp [Version 1.03]
2B DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
2C DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
++ SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp [Version 1.03]
2D DLCSpellTomes.esp
++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
2E Adonnays Classical Weaponry.esp
2F Elegant Vests.esp
30 tda_Armoury.esp
31 XiaNewAmuletsV1.esp
32 DLCThievesDen.esp
33 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
34 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]
35 SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp [Version 1.05]
36 KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp [Version 1.2]
++ FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp [Version 0.9.9]
37 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]
38 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]
39 OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]
++ FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9]
3A Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
3B FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]
3C Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
++ FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9]
3D Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
3E FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3]
3F Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
++ OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.32.Final]
++ ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp
++ ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp [Version 1.3]
40 ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp [Version 1.3]
41 Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
42 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
++ FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]
43 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]
44 FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_SpawnRatesReduced.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
++ FCOM_LessRats.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_NoAdventurersInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_LessReaversInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9]
45 Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
46 Mart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Slimes.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Uberhulks.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
47 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
48 Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
49 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
4A Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.3]
++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69]
4B Castle Ravenpride.esp [Version 1.01]
4C Ivellon.esp [Version 1.8]
4D Artifacts.esp
4E AyleidArrows.esp [Version 1.8]
4F Demonhunter.esp
50 GB_Oblivion Tournament.esp
51 GTAesgaard.esp
52 HeartOftheDead.esp [Version 6.0]
53 M.O.E. - The Black Sacrament - Night Mother's Ritual.esp [Version 2]
54 The Ayleid Steps.esp [Version 2.6]
++ All Natural - Real Lights - The Ayleid Steps Patch.esp [Version 1.0]
55 VaultsofCyrodiil.esp
56 VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp
57 DLCFrostcrag.esp
58 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
++ SM Plugin Refurbish - FrostCrag.esp [Version 1.03]
59 Knights.esp
5A Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]
++ SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp [Version 1.03]
5B The Lost Spires.esp
5C Blood&Mud.esp
++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
5D Castle_Seaview.esp
5E bartholm.esp
++ FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp [Version 0.9.9]
5F Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]
60 Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp
61 Quest Award Leveling SI.esp
62 Quest Award Leveller.esp [Version 2.0.1]
63 Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp [Version 2.1.0]
++ Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp [Version 2.1.0]
64 M.O.E. - Main Quest Delayer.esp [Version 3]
65 attack and hide easier v2.1.esp
66 sycHearNoEvil.esp [Version 1.0]
67 Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp
68 DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
++ Conrans Level Rates modified-3x.esp
69 SaveSkillTrainingForLater.esp
6A Mayu's Animation Overhaul.esp
6B DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp
6C Let There Be Darkness - Knights.esp
6D Let There Be Darkness - Shivering Isles.esp
6E Let There Be Darkness - Mehrunes Razor.esp
++ Item interchange - Placement.esp [Version 0.76]
++ M.O.E. - Better Icon for Script Effects.esp [Version 1]
6F bgBalancingEVCore.esp [Version 10.5EV-D]
70 bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV]
++ bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp [Version 1.68EV]
++ bgMagicItemSigil.esp [Version 1.68EV]
++ bgMagicEVStartspells.esp [Version 1.68EV]
71 bgMagicBonus.esp [Version 1.7EV]
++ bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp [Version 1.68EV]
72 bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp [Version 1.68EV]
73 bgMagicAlchemy.esp [Version 1.57]
74 bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp [Version 1.68UV]
** bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, TNR Merge.esp [Version 10.0EV-D]
++ bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp [Version 10.]
75 Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp
76 Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp
77 Better Cities Full - B&M Edition FPS Patch.esp
78 Better Imperial City.esp
79 Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp
7A Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 2]
++ No Vampire Feeding Message Box.esp
7B bgMagicEVShader.esp [Version 1.7EV]
++ bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp [Version 1.68]
7C BubbleFx.esp
++ bgMagicEVNoSummonGlow.esp [Version 1.62EV]
** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp
7D Bashed Patch, 0.esp
7E FormID Finder without Pluggy.esp
7F Streamline 3.1.esp

» Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:25 pm

And in returning to do some smaller testing ...

I realize that you cannot seem to only use the Real Lights portion of this because if you do then without the esm there will be missing meshes for things like candles and without the main esp then the sky will be all pink (learned this bit after updating CorePC textures and thinking I'd done something wrong like 4 times).

So no way to really test the Real Lights only option that thoroughly.

This is going to take a while to test all this out since the crashes do not happen right away but after about 7-10 cell transitions.

First see if I can find a more generic version of AN (as in only EW or AWS or NW) then if not it is definitely a mod conflict as I'm the only one here reporting this. Which means a lot of reloading and rebashing - a lot. very tedious testing protocol.

Hope I get lucky - if I even have the patience to carry it out.

» Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:45 am

@Psymon: Your issue is simple as pie. You're using Pluggy 91 which is a verified source of transition crashes. You need to upgrade that to whatever version is most recent since that problem was fixed. Something like 125 or 130. I don't keep track as none of the mods I use need Pluggy.

@Cogstar: Better Cities overrides a number of light placements in the cities. There's nothing we can do about that.

» Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:02 am

I am having the same exact problem as Psymon about crashing while transitioning between cells. . . I'm using Pluggy 125.

Also, I don't know if this is a feature of All Natural, but I'm having a problem when it is supposed to be the middle if the day and it would suddenly (looks like a weather transition) be pitched black. I mean I wouldn't be able to see past my torch light. . . it's even darker than the night. Here is my configuration, I hope you guys could point out what I'm doing wrong.

; ===========================================
; | All Natural Configuration File (v0.9.7) |
; ===========================================

; Contains configuration parameters for optional features.
; Feature requirements are listed in parenthesis after the name.
; For example, "Enhanced Nights (OBSE)" means you need OBSE to use it.
; For Enable/Disable toggles, 1 is enabled and 0 is disabled.
; Multipliers are values by which the original value for whatever you are changing is multiplied.
; As such, values greater than 1 are an increase, while values less than 1 are a decrease.
; Defaults for parameter values are given in parenthesis after the parameter description.
; All parameters can be customised to suit indiviual tastes.

; ============================================================
; | Enhanced Nights (OBSE) - Configurable nights for Tamriel |
; ============================================================

set ANInitQuest.ENEnabled to 1 ; Enable/Disable Enhanced Nights. (0)

Set ANInitQuest.ENDarknessParameter to 0.5 ; Multiplier of the brightness at night.
Set ANInitQuest.ENNormalizeNightAmbient to 1 ; Enables/Disables vanilla's blue tint at night.
Set ANInitQuest.ENNormalizeParameter to 30 ; If above is 0, set to 0. If above is 1, set to (DarknessParameter * 60).

; Suggested Values:

; -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; | |Vanilla|50% Darker Nights|80% Darker Nights|Original Colour Darker Nights|
; -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; |DarknessParameter | 1 | 0.5 | 0.2 | 0.33 |
; |NormalizeNightAmbient| 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 |
; |NormalizeParameter | 0 | 30 | 12 | 0 |
; -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

; ============================================================================
; | Enhanced Nights - Shivering Isles (SI,OBSE) - Configurable nights for SI |
; ============================================================================

set ANSIInitQuest.ENEnabled to 1 ; Enable/Disable Enhanced Nights for SI (0)

Set ANSIInitQuest.ENDarknessParameter to 0.5 ; Multiplier of the brightness at night.
Set ANSIInitQuest.ENNormalizeNightAmbient to 1 ; Enable/Disable vanilla's blue tint at night.
Set ANSIInitQuest.ENNormalizeParameter to 30 ; If above is 0, set to 0. If above is 1, set to (DarknessParameter * 106).

; Suggested Values:

; -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; | |Vanilla|50% Darker Nights|80% Darker Nights|Original Colour Darker Nights|
; -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; |DarknessParameter | 1 | 0.5 | 0.2 | 0.33 |
; |NormalizeNightAmbient| 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 |
; |NormalizeParameter | 0 | 53 | 21 | 0 |
; -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

; =============================================================================
; | Enhanced Transitions (OBSE) - Adjust weather transition speeds in Tamriel |
; =============================================================================

; This changes the speed of weather transitions once the weather has started to change.
; It does not change how long weathers last for.

set ANInitQuest.ETEnabled to 1 ; Enable/Disable Enhanced Transitions. (0)

set ANInitQuest.ETClear to 1 ; Multiplier of the transition speed for clear weathers. (1)
set ANInitQuest.ETCloudy to 1 ; Multiplier of the transition speed for cloudy weathers. (1)
set ANInitQuest.ETFog to 1 ; Multiplier of the transition speed for foggy weathers. (1)
set ANInitQuest.ETOvercast to 1 ; Multiplier of the transition speed for overcast weathers. (1)
set ANInitQuest.ETRain to 1 ; Multiplier of the transition speed for rainy weathers. (1)
set ANInitQuest.ETSnow to 1 ; Multiplier of the transition speed for snowy weathers. (1)
set ANInitQuest.ETStorm to 1 ; Multiplier of the transition speed for stormy weathers. (1)

; ================================================================================
==============================
; | Enhanced Transitions - Shivering Isles (SI,OBSE) - Adjust weather transition speeds in the Shivering Isles |
; ================================================================================
==============================

; This changes the speed of weather transitions once the weather has started to change.
; It does not change how long weathers last for.

set ANSIInitQuest.ETEnabled to 1 ; Enable/Disable Enhanced Transitions for SI (0)

set ANSIInitQuest.ETClear to 1 ; Multiplier of the transition speed for clear weathers. (1)
set ANSIInitQuest.ETCloudy to 1 ; Multiplier of the transition speed for cloudy weathers. (1)
set ANSIInitQuest.ETFog to 1 ; Multiplier of the transition speed for foggy weathers. (1)
Set ANSIInitQuest.ETMania to 1 ; Multiplier of the transition speed for Mania weathers. (1)
set ANSIInitQuest.ETOvercast to 1 ; Multiplier of the transition speed for overcast weathers. (1)
set ANSIInitQuest.ETRain to 1 ; Multiplier of the transition speed for rainy weathers. (1)
set ANSIInitQuest.ETStorm to 1 ; Multiplier of the transition speed for stormy weathers. (1)

; ======================================================================
; | Enhanced Colours (OBSE) - Adjust the colour of weathers in Tamriel |
; ======================================================================

set ANInitQuest.ECEnabled to 1 ; Enable/Disable Enhanced Colours. (0)

Set ANInitQuest.ECRedParameter to 1 ; Multiplier for red values in vanilla weathers. (1)
Set ANInitQuest.ECGreenParameter to 1 ; Multiplier for green values in vanilla weathers. (1)
Set ANInitQuest.ECBlueParameter to 1 ; Multiplier for blue values in vanilla weathers. (1)

Set ANInitQuest.ECEWRedParameter to 1 ; Multiplier for red values in Enhanced Weather weathers. (1)
Set ANInitQuest.ECEWGreenParameter to 1 ; Multiplier for green values in Enhanced Weather weathers. (1)
Set ANInitQuest.ECEWBlueParameter to 1 ; Multiplier for blue values in Enhanced Weather weathers. (1)

Set ANInitQuest.ECNWRedParameter to 1 ; Multiplier for red values in Natural Weather weathers. (1)
Set ANInitQuest.ECNWGreenParameter to 1 ; Multiplier for green values in Natural Weather weathers. (1)
Set ANInitQuest.ECNWBlueParameter to 1 ; Multiplier for blue values in Natural Weather weathers. (1)

Set ANInitQuest.ECAWSRedParameter to 1 ; Multiplier for red values in AWS weathers. (1)
Set ANInitQuest.ECAWSGreenParameter to 1 ; Multiplier for green values in AWS weathers. (1)
Set ANInitQuest.ECAWSBlueParameter to 1 ; Multiplier for blue values in AWS weathers. (1)

; ================================================================================
========================
; | Enhanced Colours - Shivering Isles (SI, OBSE) - Adjust the colour of weathers in the Shivering Isles |
; ================================================================================
========================

set ANSIInitQuest.ECEnabled to 1 ; Enable/Disable Enhanced Colours for SI. (0)

Set ANSIInitQuest.ECClearR to 1 ; Multiplier for red values in clear weathers. (1)
Set ANSIInitQuest.ECClearG to 1 ; Multiplier for green values in clear weathers. (1)
Set ANSIInitQuest.ECClearB to 1 ; Multiplier for blue values in clear weathers. (1)

Set ANSIInitQuest.ECCloudyR to 1 ; Multiplier for red values in cloudy weathers. (1)
Set ANSIInitQuest.ECCloudyG to 1 ; Multiplier for green values in cloudy weathers. (1)
Set ANSIInitQuest.ECCloudyB to 1 ; Multiplier for blue values in cloudy weathers. (1)

Set ANSIInitQuest.ECFogR to 1 ; Multiplier for red values in fog weathers. (1)
Set ANSIInitQuest.ECFogG to 1 ; Multiplier for green values in fog weathers. (1)
Set ANSIInitQuest.ECFogB to 1 ; Multiplier for blue values in fog weathers. (1)

Set ANSIInitQuest.ECManiaR to 1 ; Multiplier for red values in Mania weathers. (1)
Set ANSIInitQuest.ECManiaG to 1 ; Multiplier for green values in Mania weathers. (1)
Set ANSIInitQuest.ECManiaB to 1 ; Multiplier for blue values in Mania weathers. (1)

Set ANSIInitQuest.ECOvercastR to 1 ; Multiplier for red values in overcast weathers. (1)
Set ANSIInitQuest.ECOvercastG to 1 ; Multiplier for green values in overcast weathers. (1)
Set ANSIInitQuest.ECOvercastB to 1 ; Multiplier for blue values in overcast weathers. (1)

Set ANSIInitQuest.ECRainR to 1 ; Multiplier for red values in rain weathers. (1)
Set ANSIInitQuest.ECRainG to 1 ; Multiplier for green values in rain weathers. (1)
Set ANSIInitQuest.ECRainB to 1 ; Multiplier for blue values in rain weathers. (1)

Set ANSIInitQuest.ECStormR to 1 ; Multiplier for red values in stormy weathers. (1)
Set ANSIInitQuest.ECStormG to 1 ; Multiplier for green values in stormy weathers. (1)
Set ANSIInitQuest.ECStormB to 1 ; Multiplier for blue values in stormy weathers. (1)

; ================================================================================
==================
; | Weather Volatility - Tamriel & Shivering Isles (OBSE) - Adjust the average length of weathers. |
; ================================================================================
==================

; This changes how long weathers last for. The values are in hours, with the values below being the
; most likely length, and shorter and longer times having less chance. This lets you change the chances
; in favour of longer or shorter weathers.

Set ANWeatherQuest.Length to 6 ; Most likely length of time in hours for a weather to last in Tamriel. (9)

Set ANSIWeatherQuest.Length to 6 ; Most likely length of time in hours for a weather to last in SI. (9)

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.7]02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]07  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm08  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]09  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9a7]0A  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.3]0B  Artifacts.esm0C  Better Cities Resources.esm0D  HorseCombatMaster.esm++  HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp0E  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]0F  DLCShiveringIsles.esp10  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]11  Better Cities .esp12  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp13  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp14  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp15  Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp16  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]17  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]18  Fran Armor Add-on.esp19  Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp1A  LoadingScreens.esp1B  LoadingScreensAddOn.esp1C  LoadingScreensSI.esp1D  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp1E  All Natural - 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» Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:57 am

How funny - I was going to report the pitch black in the middle of the day problem too.

It occurred after updating CorePC textures twice on fast travel.

about pluggy ::sigh:: well I was using that version to avoid the transition crashes that I thought were only with the HUD versions above 120.

So for now testing the 132 version without using any hud mods. So thanks Arthmoor for that tip - let you know how it goes, so far so good.

Mysticboi-

did you update CorePC textures too?

I've never had the pitch black issue before and used An with Pluggy 191 for ages - that is until today.

the pitch black is weird there is no light at all. Then also opening my map to fast travel again and that does not work. I cant activate any markers.

alright back to it ...

» Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:55 pm

I was having the pitch black problem even before I installed Vibrant Textures, even with QTP3. All I know is that it first appeared when I started messing with the configs.

» Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:00 pm

How funny - I was going to report the pitch black in the middle of the day problem too.

It occurred after updating CorePC textures twice on fast travel.

about pluggy ::sigh:: well I was using that version to avoid the transition crashes that I thought were only with the HUD versions above 120.

So for now testing the 132 version without using any hud mods. So thanks Arthmoor for that tip - let you know how it goes, so far so good.

Mysticboi-

did you update CorePC textures too?

I've never had the pitch black issue before and used An with Pluggy 191 for ages - that is until today.

the pitch black is weird there is no light at all. Then also opening my map to fast travel again and that does not work. I cant activate any markers.

alright back to it ...

do u mean black sky like http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/3741d88c5c6d13b46e208c521baed2ae82c05a9a.png i repoted that ages ago.

» Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:35 am

No it was not like that - I've had that one before and it always seemed to do with memory leaking or resources lag. for me often accompanied by white menus/inventory and an imminent ctd. Rare that is for me though.

No this is like the whole world lacks all light. You can still move around and interact you just cant seen anything at all except for a few textures here and there. Only got that twice.

I'm completely removing pluggy from mu LO - but further testing will have to wait till tomorrow or the next day.

» Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:03 pm

No it was not like that - I've had that one before and it always seemed to do with memory leaking or resources lag. for me often accompanied by white menus/inventory and an imminent ctd. Rare that is for me though.

No this is like the whole world lacks all light. You can still move around and interact you just cant seen anything at all except for a few textures here and there. Only got that twice.

I'm completely removing pluggy from mu LO - but further testing will have to wait till tomorrow or the next day.

ya its rare for me to an ya ive got the white menus/inventory and an imminent ctd to but ya rare its to bad you cant make a video of your umm big bug.

» Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:10 pm

No this is like the whole world lacks all light. You can still move around and interact you just cant seen anything at all except for a few textures here and there. Only got that twice.

Well clearly that can't be caused by AN then. There's absolutely no way in hell it can affect *EVERY* texture you have. If you're getting what you describe, you really need to start looking elsewhere for the cause.

That one with the sun in a pitch black sky, I've seen it before too. Usually right before the game sputters, chugs, chokes, and then dies due to memory leakage. Though on occasion manually issuing a pcb command from the console will keep things afloat long enough to reach an interior somewhere.

» Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:58 am

Im gettin a constant storm in SI, it has been going on for at least 4 days. No matter where I go in SI.

According to the debug ring the id is 0022B7 which is EWESEStorm2, the chance was at 1.00

The rain seems to keep going even when I force clear weather. It will stay clear for a few seconds and then go back to the storm. It also did this when going to palace without forcing weather. The palace weather as I entered would be clear and then change to stormy weather. This constant storm is becoming severely annoying.

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» Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:10 am

@ Sandman53: OK, I'll look into it.

» Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:52 am

Wrinklyninja ok i tryed your Enhanced Seasons v0.9 with All Natural 0.9.7 here was my LO at the time

Enhanced Seasons v0.9
All Natural - Real Lights [Version 0.9.7]
All Natural [Version 0.9.7]
All Natural - SI [Version 0.9.7]
All Natural - NW + AWS [Version 0.9.6]

so the bug i got was loading a new cell witch u can see for your sefe in this http://www.xfire.com/video/191328/ I dont think my video card likes the shader that came with your mod witch is a Radeon HD 4870 ( 512MB )

» Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:27 pm

OK uninstalled pluggy completely and played for several hours tonight and I'm still getting transition crashes with AN installed far more frequently than without.

If there is any info I can get - just let me know.

Obviously testing with AN alone should be soon on my list.

» Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:58 am

Is this compatible with Elswyer's weather? I don't want it to start raining in the desert again.

» Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:30 am

Just here to offer an apology. Turns out my problem with the pitch black rooms was because I left Let There Be Darkness active, when I should have just imported the cell data and then deactivated them.

Once I'd done that, the rooms were much darker than normal, but still had some visibility outside of the torch range.

» Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:45 pm

Something weird is happening to my game: I've been using AN and Storms&Sounds for ages without any problem, and today suddenly it started raining inside interior cells. It started in Frostcrag Spire (Frostcrag Reborn version), then I teleported to the IC and it was raining in all the buildings I entered (one exception: the basemant of a house). I wanted to uninstall AN, and tried to follow the procedure: I set the weather to clear in the IC market then went inside a shop: pouring rain again, inside. I set it to clear again, then waited 24 hours: it started pouring inside the shop during the wait.

Has anyone encountered this before? What should I do?

Thanks for any suggestion.

» Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:28 pm

OK uninstalled pluggy completely and played for several hours tonight and I'm still getting transition crashes with AN installed far more frequently than without.

If there is any info I can get - just let me know.

Obviously testing with AN alone should be soon on my list.

You arn't using the old (unhacked) version of obge.dll are you? That caused transition crashed for me.

» Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:23 am

OK, I've been out of the loop for a while, so this is a summary post (of sorts) of all the outstanding issues people have reported:

- Transition crashes with AN installed.

I haven't a clue why this is happening to you. I can't thing why AN specifically would cause these crashes, it doesn't do anything extraordinary. I'm therefore tempted to chalk this one up to the flukyness of modded Oblivion. Perhaps in a year or so it shall be revealed that AN is doing something that increases chances of crashing (a la deleting objects), but until such a time, I don't think much can be done about it. :shrug:

It could be something to do with OBSE, have you checked it's log after the crashes?

- Tutorial dungeon too dark, making good facegen difficult.

Arthmoor's the Real Lights man, so this one's for him.

- Broken OMOD script, will not install SI plugin.

I'll add the fix for the next version of AN.

- Indoor weather not syncing with outdoor weather. (Cogstar)

This is because you're in Chorrol, which hasn't got interior support done yet.

- Pitch black in the middle of the day. (Psymon, MattysBoi)

I need example screenshots of this, a description is too vague.

- Black sky. (Cogstar)

Bug in engine, nothing we can do about it.

- Constant storm in SI. (Sandman53)

I've already noted I'll look into it. At some point.

- Shader looking a bit wierd in Enhanced Seasons. (Cogstar)

I too have an ATI HD 4xxx series card, so that's not it. I'll have a poke around.

- Raining indoors. (jansen)

This is because you haven't got import cells active in you're bashed patch, most probably.

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@ Uglulyx: Yes, it is.

» Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:33 pm

- Tutorial dungeon too dark, making good facegen difficult.

Arthmoor's the Real Lights man, so this one's for him.

I'll look at it later. I guess there's a reason Bethesda didn't make your cell realistically dark the way it should be since nobody is supposed to even be in there.

» Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:02 pm

It did get loads better after I realized you have to bash Let There Be Darkness with C.Lights and the LTBD files active, then deactivate them after the bashed patch is built.

» Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:14 pm

It did get loads better after I realized you have to bash Let There Be Darkness with C.Lights and the LTBD files active, then deactivate them after the bashed patch is built.

That does help. But it is worthy of note that the start - starting cell and end of starter dungeon - being dark is a bit of an issue for character building anyway. To be perfectly frank Bethesda would have been better to have a separate decently lit character building screen, rather than that of the place the character is in.

» Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:12 am

Hello, wrinklyninja, and thanks for your reply. Actually, I have imported the cells in my bashed patch. And it has always worked perfectly since the last AN update. But I've discovered something else: the weather is stuck to this storm. Outdoor, indoor, shivering isles, everywhere for two days, there has been only this storm. Strange. Is there a way to reset the weather ingame, or must I try the uninstall procedure?

thanks!

» Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:40 am

I too have the pitch black bug... I will give screenies but now i can only give a description. I looks exatcly like Enhanced Nights kicking in midday. The NPCs dont get there torches out... because it's damn 10AM!

EDIT: good that i had a save there B) http://img40.imageshack.us/g/screenshot38s.jpg/ (you really dont want the save... it's at 252 mods)

» Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:43 pm

Where it says "IsForest? 1, Location Cave", is that current to when you took the screenshot or was that from earlier?

Is it possible You Are Here thinks you're in a cave and is adding a filter?