Hello everyone,

I'm been walking around the Imperial Isle with my character today and i've met a couple of land tears and some missing water spots. I have a couple of thing affecting the Imperial isle, such as the UL mod, Vampire Hunter - Order of the virtuous blood and Let the People drink 2.5

Here's my mod list

Oblivion.esmKvatch Rebuilt.esmWaalx Animals & Creatures.esmCobl Main.esmAll Natural Base.esmBetter Cities Resources.esmHorseCombatMaster.esmUnofficial Oblivion Patch.espOblivion Citadel Door Fix.espDLCShiveringIsles.espAtmospheric Loading Screens - Random Quotes.espKobu's Character Advancement System.espKobu's Health Modifier Mod.espKobu's Cure for Fatigue Mod.espKobu's Personality Enhancer.espCLS-OldFriends-OBSE.espSkill Perk Descriptions Enhancement.espLandmarks, w Wells.esptalkwithyourhands2.espKyoma's Journal Mod.espCobl Glue.espEncyclopaedia Cyrodilica.espsgLighterQuivers.espCT-Com's Torch Compendium.espANB_WeaponAddons_Enhanced.espMithril and Orcish Weapon Sets by Ionis.espAdonnays Elven Weaponry.espAdonnays Classical Weaponry.espexhDual_Wield_Complete.espTravelers' Cloaks.espDopplersArmory.espMaps of Cyrodiil.espAyleid Loot EXtension.espM.O.E. - Main Quest Delayer.espLiving Economy.espLiving Economy - Items.espSmarter Mercantile Leveling - Multi.espConsequences.espIntelligence Overhaul BJ.espStealthOverhaul.espDropLitTorchOBSE.espSP1stPLegs.espMap Markers Be Done -Elys-.espMore Capacity Encumbrance.espMOBS.espVampire Ashes.espimmersive_caves_manual.espBookTrackerOBSE.espVows and Covenants.espCyrodiil Travel Services.espExtended Skingrad.espExtended Chorrol.espExtended Imperial City.espTNR ALL RACES FINAL.espWAC.espWAC - OverSpawn.espWAC - Magic.espWAC - BlackBootDungeon.espWAC - Dead Knights.espWAC - Player Summons.espWAC - Crowded Roads Revisited.espWAC - Horses.espWAC - TCOS.espWAC - TCOS Shops.espWAC - Companions.espWAC - Legion.espWAC - Gladiator.espImperialCityApartment.espkingdomofAlmar.espCDEP-UnderpallCave.espCDEP_FanaCeya.esphackdirtabyss.espUnique Dungeons - Lost Glory.espUnique Dungeons - Lichs Lair.espImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.espPerannias_Hall-9314.espWoodlandVillage1.2.espmrSiikas_ImperialCathedral.espImpeREAL Empire Unique Cities - Sutch.espFaregyl.espUrasek.espVergayun.espReedstand.espTalosBridgeGateHouse.espVampire Hunting - Order of the Virtuous Blood.espTrail  South East.espTrail  WEST.espTrail  EAST.espTrail  Central.espXulEntiusGorge.espxulAncientRedwoods.espxulTheHeath.espxulFallenleafEverglade.espxulColovianHighlands_EV.espxulPantherRiver.espxuldarkforest.espxulAspenWood.espxulBrenaRiverRavine.espxulLushWoodlands.espxulRollingHills_EV.espxulSnowdale.espxulSilverfishRiverValley.espxulRiverEthe.espxulCloudtopMountains.espxulStendarrValley.espxulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.espxulBlackwoodForest.espxulCliffsOfAnvil.espxulAncientYews.espxulArriusCreek.espxulPatch_AY_AC.espxulSkingradOutskirts.espxulImperialIsle.espTalosGatehouse + ULImperialIsle.espxulCheydinhalFalls.espxulChorrolHinterland.espxulBravilBarrowfields.espTrailsOfCyrodiil-UL merged patch.espRainbows.espGet Wet.espAll Natural.espAll Natural - Real Lights.espWindowLightingSystem.espSalmo the Baker, Cobl.espLetThePeopleDrink.espDS Summon Luggage.espSupremeMagicka.espBetter Cities .espBetter Cities ANVIL.espBetter Cities BRAVIL.espBetter Cities BRUMA.espBetter Cities CHEYDINHAL.espBetter Cities CHORROL.espBetter Cities LEYAWIIN.espBetter Cities SKINGRAD.espTrailsOfCyrodiil-BC patch.espBetter Cities IC Arboretum.espBetter Cities IC Arcane University.espBetter Cities IC Arena.espBetter Cities IC Elven Gardens.espBetter Cities IC Green Emperor Way.espBetter Cities IC Market.espBetter Cities IC Prison.espBetter Cities IC Talos Plaza.espBetter Cities IC Temple.espBetter Cities IC Waterfront.espBetter Cities - VWD of the IC.espBetter Cities - All Natural.espBetter Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.espBetter Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.espBetter Cities - COBL.espBetter Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.espBetter Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.espBetter Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.espModsManMessages'n'setups.espMounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.espDeadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block and 250% damage.espDeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.espBashed Patch, 0.esp

Here's the tears themselves.

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Maybe something is not ordered right ?! Usually it's that but i may be mistaken, but i don't know what could be. Also, i must mention that my BetterCities version is a bit outdated, but i don't know if it could mess up the exterior of the city.

As you use the Better cities - UL patch, this can cause such problems.

You can find it out by yourself: open the console, type "tdt", write down the cell number, jump over the void, and write down the other cell number. Now you have 2 neighboring cells, where obviously something must be different.

Install tes4edit, go to the Tamriel wordspace, and find your 2 cells. You can see where are the possible changes, and what is different between the 2 cells.

Maybe something to do with Extended Imperial City.esp? What is it?

You should upgrade to the latest version of Better Cities, and then apply the appropriate UL Imperial Isle patch.

PS: As you use all districts of Better Imperial City, why not just use the merged plugin? Same thing with Better Cities Full, when you use all the component cities? Saves on esp slots for sure.

I had similar problem using cbash. I think it merged my III UL and NRB patch and that cause a land tear for me.

The other day I had a big tear near Bleaker's way. First time I ever seen it. Quit and reloaded game and all was fine. Makes me think sometimes the game goes wacky.

Extended I.C is an old mod adding a good deal of regular NPCs roaming the streets, it adds nothing else. ( i use a lot of old things that are probably not on Nexus anymore haha)

Indeed i will update my BC with a clean save beforehand and then upgrade my patches if there's anything new. I could use one plugin for the I.C but i'm fearing the use of one plugin for the other cities, i want to be able to resolve compatibility issues fast and be able to deal with each city separately if anything arises.

Thanks for your suggestions everyone, helpful as always. :wink_smile: