Weird Save Game Issue

Post » Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:07 am

I haven't seen this one mentioned on the first few pages of this forum, so here goes.

I cannot load exterior-cell save games from the main menu. When I do, it just hangs on the loading screen. Sometimes CTDs if I let it run long enough.

If I load an interior cell save, I can then IMMEDIATELY load the exterior save that crashed on the previous attempt.

I mean, I suppose it could be worse. I have a work around. But I'd dearly love to know what's causing this and how to fix it.

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Maria Garcia
 
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Post » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:35 pm

Could be script sludge. Wait in the interior cell 31 days. This should clear everything out (73 hours should clear out what is causing the issue, but 31 days is the extent of any script I have seen). Then, go outside and make a new save slot. Then exit the game, reboot the system (this is to clear any caches that could be helping you or making things worse) and then try to load that save you just made.

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barbara belmonte
 
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Post » Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:07 am

Even on starting a fresh game? I've literally tried uninstalling,wiping away everything, and reinstalling my mods in chunks, and this problem recurs LONG before I even get the full list up. At first I thought it was Falskaar (the mod I added when this whole thing first started), but it's now happening on a fresh install WITHOUT Falskaar installed and all previous saves deleted.

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Post » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:43 am

Nope, that didn't work. Thanks though.

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Post » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:04 am

Have you cleaned your BOSS load order, and enabled your papyrus log file ???

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Lori Joe
 
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Post » Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:19 am

I've cleaned every file BOSS has told me to clean and thrown in a Bashed Patch from Wrye Bash.
No Fix.
I've recently stripped out everything AGAIN, put in the bare essentials, THEN the three big content expansions (Falskaar, Moonpath, Wyrmtooth). It's going fine. i'm not throwing in a handful of texture packs at a time, and reloading over and over. Seeing when it finally breaks.
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Post » Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:28 am

This is what I've reduced my load order to. Problem still recurring, even on fresh save series. It started fine when I was doing landscape and architecture replacers. Then when I went into Armor, that's when it broke. I removed all the armors, reloaded back to an old save prior to that phase of installation. That loaded, so I re-saved, quit, and when I tried to reload, it hangs on the loading screen. *hits head into desk* I've got over 230 hours in Skyrim and I've NEVER had this problem before.

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Post » Fri Sep 06, 2013 3:13 am

You should enable Papyrus log to help. Add the following lines to your Skyrim.ini in My Documents (or change to 1 if they already exist):

[Papyrus]
bEnableLogging=1
bEnableTrace=1
bLoadDebugInformation = 1

Enter the game and make it CTD. Go to the new created folder (where you can find Skyrim.ini) Logs > Scripts >Papyrus.0.log (this will always be the most recent log). And look at the bottom, it will have something like this:

VM is freezing...

VM is frozen

Before that it will mention the last script loaded, that's the one that messes things up. If you cannot identify the mod by the script you can post in here so people can help you (or you can just Google it).

You unistall it to check, or change it in your LO.

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