Well I am done with this game for now

Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:18 pm

So yeah I am done, had enough for now, just not having fun anymore. So I am playing what is mostly a heavy armoured 2 hander weilding warrior and due to the limited perks and a system that punishes you for having too wide array of skills I decided on focusing more on the skills and perks that support this play style, so that means no bows, no stealth, no pickpocketing and that sort of thing and while I managed to suffer through the backpedaling Draugur mages who backpedal faster than I can move forward while swinging a sword and the [censored] dragons that wont [censored] land and go "trololo you need a bow to defeat me" even though I invested no perks or skills into it making any damage I do with a bow [censored] useless I finally run into the straw that broke the camels back.

So as I am going through the main quests I run into a mission where I need to infiltrate a Thalmor embassy, oh joy just the mission my character is totally unsuited for. So I go along with the motions, and after the Wood Elf leads me out of the party room I am supposed to somehow sneak past all the Thalmor guards and recover the evidence, problem is 1) my sneak skill is pitiful so as soon as I enter the same room as a guard he notices me making it impossible to sneak through, 2) even if I could sneak up to a guard trying to stealth kill him is impossible due to the fact that any damage I do with a 1 handed weapon is pitiful even with the sneak bonus and dont get me started on my bow damage, so my only option is to go bezerk and make as much noise as possible while I slaughter everyone in the embassy and while I know that this is still a viable option to complete the mission it just feels so [censored] stupid and counter intuitive to the initial mission plan, why bother with sneaking me in with a phony invitation if I am just going to turn the mission into a [censored] bloodbath? Why dont I just kick down the [censored] door and do it that way?

Anyway dispite how [censored] stupid the previous mission was I managed to put it out of my mind and slaughter my way through the embassy however then I come to the next mission where I need to head to Riften to get some information about the whereabouts of a certain someone, however upon asking him for the info he says "hey how about I create a diversion while you steal something and slip it into somebodies pocket with those pickpocking skills you dont have?" and I just decided thats it, I have had enough, of course there is the option to bypass the mission with the speech skills I dont have however I feel at level 27 it may be a bit late to be training the skills that I need to pass the main quest and I cant be bothered starting a new character just yet, so I am taking a break and might wait for the Construction kit to come out before I start again, who knows perhaps there will be some cool mods released by then and perhaps Bethesda will release a patch that fixes a few of the problems with their [censored] UI.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:00 pm

You said the game punishes you for having a wide array of skill focuses but then go on to complain how your specialized character wasn't suited for one quest?

Herpderp.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:36 pm

That Riften quest is ridiculously easy, I did it with the lowest possible sneak and pickpocket skill.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:09 pm

You said the game punishes you for having a wide array of skill focuses but then go on to complain how your specialized character wasn't suited for one quest?

Herpderp.


Yep exactly my point.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:19 pm

quit game or find a pair of muffle shoes

tough choice i see.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:36 pm

Oh no! The quests in this game are aimed at more than one character class, what the hell??
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:15 pm

Cool story bro
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:41 pm

I will not say "cool story bro". I will not say "cool story bro". I will not say "cool story bro". I will not say "cool story bro". I will not say "cool story bro". I will not say "cool story bro". I will not say "cool story bro".

Oh hell.

Cool story bro.

Also, if you can't wrap your brain around multiple ways to handle quests, then you're going to have problems with a modded Skyrim too. And you don't need a bow to defeat dragons. And if you play a warrior who specializes in two-handed, don't complain that you don't do as much damage with bows or one-handed weapons. And melee-based classes are widely acknowledged to be the easiest to play at the moment. It sounds like you're blaming Bethesda for your own problems here. I could keep going...
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:11 pm

That Riften quest is ridiculously easy, I did it with the lowest possible sneak and pickpocket skill.

Yes it was

Cheers
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:27 pm

Why do you think anybody else cares what you do with your free time...we don't even know you, you're a name on the internet. What you feel about this game means nothing
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:38 pm

The only one that wants you to sneak is the elf helping you. Hell my sneak was at 75 and I still slaughtered everyone because I'm not a cat burgler.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:02 pm

Why do you think anybody else cares what you do with your free time...we don't even know you, you're a name on the internet. What you feel about this game means nothing


The OP's post and opinion means as much as your posts and your feelings about the game. Honestly this board is full of such self righteous ass holes.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:16 pm

So yeah I am done, had enough for now, just not having fun anymore. So I am playing what is mostly a heavy armoured 2 hander weilding warrior and due to the limited perks and a system that punishes you for having too wide array of skills I decided on focusing more on the skills and perks that support this play style, so that means no bows, no stealth, no pickpocketing and that sort of thing and while I managed to suffer through the backpedaling Draugur mages who backpedal faster than I can move forward while swinging a sword and the [censored] dragons that wont [censored] land and go "trololo you need a bow to defeat me" even though I invested no perks or skills into it making any damage I do with a bow [censored] useless I finally run into the straw that broke the camels back.

So as I am going through the main quests I run into a mission where I need to infiltrate a Thalmor embassy, oh joy just the mission my character is totally unsuited for. So I go along with the motions, and after the Wood Elf leads me out of the party room I am supposed to somehow sneak past all the Thalmor guards and recover the evidence, problem is 1) my sneak skill is pitiful so as soon as I enter the same room as a guard he notices me making it impossible to sneak through, 2) even if I could sneak up to a guard trying to stealth kill him is impossible due to the fact that any damage I do with a 1 handed weapon is pitiful even with the sneak bonus and dont get me started on my bow damage, so my only option is to go bezerk and make as much noise as possible while I slaughter everyone in the embassy and while I know that this is still a viable option to complete the mission it just feels so [censored] stupid and counter intuitive to the initial mission plan, why bother with sneaking me in with a phony invitation if I am just going to turn the mission into a [censored] bloodbath? Why dont I just kick down the [censored] door and do it that way?

Anyway dispite how [censored] stupid the previous mission was I managed to put it out of my mind and slaughter my way through the embassy however then I come to the next mission where I need to head to Riften to get some information about the whereabouts of a certain someone, however upon asking him for the info he says "hey how about I create a diversion while you steal something and slip it into somebodies pocket with those pickpocking skills you dont have?" and I just decided thats it, I have had enough, of course there is the option to bypass the mission with the speech skills I dont have however I feel at level 27 it may be a bit late to be training the skills that I need to pass the main quest and I cant be bothered starting a new character just yet, so I am taking a break and might wait for the Construction kit to come out before I start again, who knows perhaps there will be some cool mods released by then and perhaps Bethesda will release a patch that fixes a few of the problems with their [censored] UI.



I used to rant and rave about how the world wasn't how I wanted it to be too until I realized that a lot of my problems were do to the choices I had made in life. Your tale of woe sounds similar. I'm a role-player from way back so I try to put everything into the story-line.

1) Ok, mages and shooters like to backpedal while I close in. One of the Shouts you can get allows you to move forward REALLY fast. Use that and suddenly you're in melee range.

2) My big burly Orc hates Alchemy and casting spells so he buys potions from other people. Not a game flaw, just his style. In the scenario you mentioned I would likely strip down to my skivvies, take an Invisibility potion and do the best I could. No offense but in the movies often the 'sneaky' plan turns into a bloodfest when the big fighter screws up.

3) The next mission you mentioned was an introduction to the THIEVES GUILD! Why on earth would you even TRY to take a big, lumbering fighter type through that?

4) Dragons fly and breathe stuff on you. That's what they do. Not landing is called playing to their strengths. Not learning how to fight one is called being stubborn. Try recruiting a follower with a bow or with spells to do fire-support for you until it lands. Or try using a potion that increases your Archery skill.

Not every character will be able to succeed at every task if they don't at least TRY to step outside their comfort zone. It happens in real life all the time. Over-specialization breeds weakness. Adapt or die.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:40 pm

I will not say "cool story bro". I will not say "cool story bro". I will not say "cool story bro". I will not say "cool story bro". I will not say "cool story bro". I will not say "cool story bro". I will not say "cool story bro".

Oh hell.

Cool story bro.

Also, if you can't wrap your brain around multiple ways to handle quests, then you're going to have problems with a modded Skyrim too. And you don't need a bow to defeat dragons. And if you play a warrior who specializes in two-handed, don't complain that you don't do as much damage with bows or one-handed weapons. And melee-based classes are widely acknowledged to be the easiest to play at the moment. It sounds like you're blaming Bethesda for your own problems here. I could keep going...


So as a 2handed warrior tell me how am I supposed to defeat a Dragon who constantly flies around and wont land? Unless I am missing something the only 2 options I see here are magic and bow, both of which my character does not have any perks of skills invested in. And while I know I can complete the Thalmor Embassy by rushing through with a melee weapon however I can only suspend my disbelief so much, its like rushing through a mission in the Hitman series of games by turning into a shootfest, sure you can complete the mission this way and in most cases it is even easier to do however it just feels like you are missing the whole point of the mission. The mission the games are giving me so far make me feel like I should have rolled a thief and the alternative is to complete the mission in a half arsed way.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:36 pm

Why do you think anybody else cares what you do with your free time...we don't even know you, you're a name on the internet. What you feel about this game means nothing

Whoa.....obviously someone has pissed in your cornflakes.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:11 am


Not every character will be able to succeed at every task if they don't at least TRY to step outside their comfort zone. It happens in real life all the time. Over-specialization breeds weakness. Adapt or die.


Again that is my point, the way the perks and the leveling is set up gives the impression that you need to specialize however upon doing the quests it is apparent that you need a wider range of skill sets, I have already leveled my character too far to start investing in other skills and I cant be bothered making a new one, that is why I giving the game a rest.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:56 am

The OP's post and opinion means as much as your posts and your feelings about the game. Honestly this board is full of such self righteous ass holes.


Meaning nothing. I don't go on here and whine because its dumb and a waste of time and brings unnecessary negativity to my life, others lives and the board.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:11 am

I must be missing something but you CERTAINLY can have more than 2 skills.

Yes, you want to bash your way through the game, which is fine. I want to sneak through the game but I also know there are objectives that are going to be super hard for me.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:31 pm

Whoa.....obviously someone has pissed in your cornflakes.


Well he has a point, we don't need a thread every time someone decides they're bored and are going to take a break from Skyrim.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:33 am

Yep exactly my point.

No, you're just doing it wrong.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:11 pm

:violin:
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:48 am

The OP's post and opinion means as much as your posts and your feelings about the game. Honestly this board is full of such self righteous ass holes.

Basically if you aren't calling this the best game in history you get crucified.

Either you absolutely love the game or you're a whiner/crybaby/hater/etc.
Welcome to the internet :/
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:14 am

LOL, sorry i understand your frustration since i share similar experience, but it was a good read, thanks for the laugh.

To me, the mission in Riften was just stupid. "Dude, Im playing a good guy who never steal, never pickpoket, and you are asking me, an arch mage, to do your little dirty thief guild business?!"

now you remind me, im gonna assassinate the entire thief guild with my 2nd character...

o well, take care, we will see you back.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:32 pm

Basically if you aren't calling this the best game in history you get crucified.

Either you absolutely love the game or you're a whiner/crybaby/hater/etc.
Welcome to the internet :/

It would help if OPs post made sense. He creates pure 2h warrior, gets mission he can finish with stealth or by acting like a 2h warrior, refuses to do it that way and instead comes to forum whining like a little boy, not 2h warrior. He does not have speech skills that increase simply by selling gear ... what was he doing with it ? Threw everything he got away ?
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:02 pm

I play a Battlemage and was a little paniced when asked to do Brynjolf's quest. But even I with my very pathetic Sneak skill pulled it off.

OP does have a point about back-peddling Draugr. It seems Skyrim is very tough to place as a "Pure" anything. Even though the Perks system is set up to reward you for playing a pure character I think most of us play integrated - I think -that- is why Bethesda did away with classes.

But I see your point. There's nothing more irritating that wanting to kill a dragon that won't land. I do find that they will land if you do any damage to them so maybe try keeping a staff handy for ranged attacks - though the terrain doesn't always allow this (e.g. Riverwood).

Good luck.
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