well, i was going to go around and collect tons of iron ingots and leather trips to train my smithing to 100 just so i could get my dragon armor BEFORE the end of the game... and i traveled to the guardian stones to get the warrior bonus so my smithing would build faster.

...for some reason, after that... i noticed my 'guardian stones found' went from 12 to 15... that makes no sense, because these three stones were the first ones i discovered... and arent there only 13 stones in the entire game?

anyway, fast traveled to riverwood to get more ingots and strips, but a dragon decided to attack, so i reloaded cause i didnt want people to get killed.

this is when everything went to hell... my game wouldnt load the file, it just sat there at "0% loaded" forever, so i restarted my system... this time i said forget that, and just went out of my whiterun house to get all the ingots and strips i could from warmaidens... then i decided to go get the leather and iron i had been storing for awhile now, and of course... everytime i try leaving my house now, it wants to freeze on the loading screen.

I CAN NOT LEAVE MY HOUSE!!!

i've tried several times, it keeps freezing... so my game is officially unplayable, THAT IS JUST GREAT.

so, i guess im gonna wait another two-three weeks for another patch, and IF it fixes my problem, i guess i'll be able to play skyrim for another week or two before running into this problem again, rinse and repeat until bethesda decides to stop supporting skyrim.

maybe bethesda should try making games that doesnt surpass our current age of technology... because the way skyrim is behaving, it think its more suited to be a playstation 5 game, or something.

well, screw this... im gonna go play just cause 2 and saints row the third some more, i guess.

hey, dont let this go unnoticed! damn it, i want bethesda fixing these problems!

im not gonna be buying any DLC or the game of the year edition if even the base game cant be played!

i mean, damn! if even the vanilla game is FAR too unstable to play, adding even more to it is gonna cause my system to explode like a nuclear bomb!

my file size was over 11mb last i checked... but that shouldnt matter... like i said, the previous night, my game was working just fine... absolutely no problems at all, it was only after starting it up that time and did what i did that seemed to make it freeze constantly, even after i reloaded back to the point BEFORE i did any of that... so i can only assume the game finally just gave out.

Can you start a New Game or load a very old save? (Just to test)

Only one save?

Are you a PC user?

^^ Seconded. Lesson learned: file corruption happens in all software. Save often. I have not yet experienced this though (PS3).

The bug with the guardian stones happened to me as well. After re-visting one I had activated previously I suddendly got the achievement for finding all the guardian stones, when I know i'm still missing several. It is really sad that bethesda has no problem with releasing barely stable games.

Before consoles were able to connect to the internet, if your game didnt work at launch you were screwed and lost alot of money and good reputation. Now with "patches" it seems companies like bethesda release games with the intention to finish it and polish it, several months after their big launch date. This mentality is reinforced by the mass of ignorant gamers who will attack anyone reporting bugs and pile on excuses for why they aren't bethesdas fault.

You on PC?

no, i am not on PC... i am on ps3.

like i said, my file was working PERFECTLY, then it just started screwing up as i load it up the next day... how does that even work?!

i also told you guys already that i reloaded to an earlier save, but it still does it!

its like my game just got tired of me playing it so often and gave me a big middle finger!

well, screw it... im getting sick of this, there is far too much im interested in doing before finishing the main quest, and im never gonna get around to finishing it because of this game being so damn unstable.

even if a patch fixes this freezing, i'll only be able to get another 30 hours in at the MOST, which wont be all that much progress, and it'll do it again, and i wont be much closer to getting my character where i want him to be.

so... i am done, just [censored] it!

im gonna go spoil the ending for myself, as well as all the storylines for factions, look at a list of all the weapons and armor, artifacts, etc... on the UESP wiki, and then im gonna go get some games off of PSN and keep myself busy while i wait for the several games coming out in the next few months and keep myself busy.

i LOVE the elder scrolls... but its that reason why i cant support this crap anymore... im tired of getting unstable games, when there are other huge games out there in the world that are perfectly stable and safe to play.

i might come back to skyrim if they get it working properly, or whatever... cause the way things are going now, its like dangling a tuna in front of a cat, giving them a little taste, then smacking them with a brick and taking the tuna away.

Which is why I have 5(five) saves everytime I leave a town for a major thing.

Wooa. The rage is strong here. I love customers. After working in the service industry (bartending / waiting tables) for a few years while building a portfolio and further educating myself in art, I've noticed one thing. This one this is especially true for Americans. If the world doesn't work as a person wants at any given time, their entire life is a ruined for the next 3 days. I'm surprised at the lack of understanding in game / software development. Hey, guess what, games have bugs. New bugs are found under different circumstances all the time. I've revisited the stones several times in one play through and never hit this issue. GET OVER IT. You might have to restart. Just because you found a bug, doesn't mean the company is crap, or give you any valid claims to run around and dog down a developer. If anything, find the positive in your situation. You brought a bug to the attention of bethesda that not many people have come accross. Now they can acknowledge and address it. Quit acting like they opening targeted and attacked you. Man, I'll never understand victims.

OH and another thing for you ps3 users. Sure you deserve the same support and patches the pc users do, but theres a problem here. You see, bethesda has to go through microsoft/sony to distribute the patch for consoles. If you want a 100% supported Skyrim cliet, get a PC.

Why am I not surprised?



You have no idea what you're talking about.

Exactly, been on these forums since 2004 and only one save slot..... Sorry I have no sympathy there for the OP. I learned my lesson of making multiple saves in 2003 after I lost a Level 72 Warrior on Morrowind due to a power surge. People who either have one save or depend soley on the auto saves, things like this are bound to happen on any game. Blame the company and not themselves all the time. For games like TES, DA:O, and Mass Effect, I always have atleast 10 to 15 saves and always save in certain spots.

People paid dollars just to be a QA team member? Come on. People pay dollars to get a working game, not a needs-lots-of-patches beta


How old are you really? It's either all of them get a patch or none at all.

Also, if a person lost his one save because of a bug, should we blame the gamer for having only one save or blame the developer for not addressing the issue?

Good for you, unfortunately, your statement only serves to paint you as a dike. Seriously, get off your high horse.

i wonder if you deleted the game data file and reinstalled it if that would help. sorry that happened to you good luck.

What does my age have anything to do with what has been said by Bethesda in patch notes? They have to go through a secondary company to patch the game on console. Therefore the PC will get the patches first. Derp. This has been the case since they released Morrowind.

Yes, you paid dollars. I would say money, but I digress. You will get your working game. You're completely ignoring my point. Games are released and bugs are found. If only games could be programmed by the same enlightened individuals that helped ancient civilizations create the pyramids, then we'd all have no need for human employment in the games / entertainment industry. This is why the patching system was created. Stop being a [censored] baby, find something else to do for the time being. Yes it svcks to have an unplayable game because of a rare bug few experience. Accept that these things may happen to you, not just with video games, but in real life as well. Life isn't fair. Move on and quit complaining about it.

Don't get me wrong. These issues SHOULD be brought to Bethesdas attention. In fact, I think it's safe to say that they prefer it this way. However, the whining and crying that's been going on in these forums the past few weeks is not discouraging, but pathetic. They didn't intend to release a broken game and I wouldn't call it broken. It has its issues, just as almost any product has it's issues when released. This doesn't only pertain to games. Think about it.

You couldn't have just asked for help in the tech forum instead of making another crybaby thread here?

Getting tired of all the negativity in this forum lol!! Am I the only one who has experienced very few bugs? (one to be exact, a dead body "fell" through the ground before I could loot it and get the item I needed). Overall I have had a very pleasant and amazing time with Skyrim. Sorry dude hope your problem gets fixed!!!!

Exactly. Not everyone is experiencing these bugs. Therefore the game isn't "broken." You, and your circumstances seemed to have discovered a bug not many of us have noticed. That's unlucky but it happens. Please don't victimize and entire community for this reason. Help Bethesda resolve the issue.

Which means if PC version DO get a patch, the console version WILL too. Does it have any relevance to the statement "PC version is the one that gets 100% support"? I don't know, really


Ah, here we go again: "patch resolves everything!"

Should I ignore your point? Well, of course! For one, too many people have reported too many bugs. They don't have the time to track down bugs? Then how long do they need? People will gladly wait if it means smooth playing experience. In fact, had they not decided for 11-11-11, perhaps things won't be like this

They rushed to go for 11-11-11, which not only limits the time they have, but does not hold any meaning in the world of Skyrim whatsoever. Using "patch" as an excuse to release a game quickly and get away with it is not a good move.

Unlike anything else in real life, you can't do jack to a bug, because you don't have the source code, nor the ability to teach yourself how to fix your problem even if you do. Furthermore, there is no telling whether they are working on your bug or not, or whether they're experiencing the same problem as you or not

People play a game to have fun. If you encounter a bug that removes the fun, is there any point to the game anymore?

On the PC i have seen no bugs or any problems with the game. The XBox however has more than I can count. Wonder why that is. I have a PC and my brother plays an XBox and I'm surprised at the problems he has on 360 and I don't think the XBox is broken since it runs other games perfectly well. What I think is maybe the developers are pushing these puny console machines too far, like maybe they should sell a trimmed down version like halo.

Do what I do and have over 120 saves.

You'll never be without a decent reload.

Hahaha.

Ok again. If you deduced the 100% play support for PC, from what I had said earlier, I do apologize. Maybe I made that mistake. However the 11 - 11 - 11 crap is hilarious. Sure they pushed for a date. Think about it tho. If they really needed to hit that date, they could have cut content, which is what most companies do. Generally, they do not cut bug support. That's illogical. I've only experienced one bug. Well, actually 2. These are crashing to desktop occasionally. In a 6-7 hour play period (not at once) I'll crash maybe once. This happens. It will be addressed. In the mean time I save often. Those are my counter-crash-save-destruction, prevention measures. The other is the alt-tab graphics bug. This isn't save breaking, So I just save, quit, and re-start the game.

The CS will be released in January. However if this was a major factor in your purchase of the game, then you would have purchaced the PC version. As this version gets the benefits of both Modders, and Bethesda. Both of these produce quality mods / patches. Some modders actually patch out bugs they experience.

All games have bugs post release. Doesn't matter if it was ready or not.