Checkout the heated discussion here on whether to side with Saadia or Kematu:

http://www.gameshampoo.com/116338/skyrim-is-it-better-to-side-with-kematu-or-saadia

it starts off normal but then suddenly escalated rather quickly...

That's funny, but about the topic they were fighting over, I thought Saadia was pretty transparent from the get go... idk, just seemed like she was lying.. wait, according to that link that makes me and all of American society sixist.. [censored]..

If I don't know any better, I'd say one of those arguers is Tonedog

But I don't know any better, so I'll say one of those arguers is Tonedog

what makes you think he is one of them.

The same thing happens here. Except for the flaming part. The only things that are just as predictable are civil war and stormcloak/imperial threads.

That argument (which, btw, is one year ago), simulates exactly the little battle between me and good ol' tonedog

Basically, he said "well s#!t, I see a woman. A PRETTY woman (by his standards) and these ugly men can force this woman to fornicate with them, so I side with the woman!".

I (and, really, many others) tried to present actual Lore that dismantles Saadia's story. How pretty much ALL of Hammerfell not only spoke out against Thalmor, but may have killed some too during the Great War, and Saadia's story has more holes than Kematu's. He won't listen, even resorting to claiming that I'm (well, he said EVERYBODY who disagrees with him are) basically heartless sixist jerk with bias against pretty redguard woman that want to be a jerk because we can, bypassing the entire logical thinking and evidence searching phase, and causing the whole discussion to be moot.

So, yeah, when I read the arguments, I was like "Hey, I remember this, this looks very familiar"

Very entertaining.

If you play Skyrim then you're scared of women.

I'm sure there's lisbians out there who love TES


I read this quote in a crack head's voice & almost died out here

I go with Kematu most of the time because if I don't I get the not so random encounter of the brothers stalking the redguard woman over and over and over again. By the 30th time it becomes really tiresome and annoying. Plus, if you don't do the quest a certain way then the quest gets glitched and 2 guys comeback to the Whiterun gate just to waste space and the encounter keeps repeating over and over again. I hate, "Need something?" so much. Mostly because of Letrush. As for who is right or wrong, there is barely any information to come up with a conclusion.