Were the humans of Akavir Asiatic in appearance?

Post » Wed May 02, 2012 4:28 pm

Do you think the human inhabitants of the continent of Akavir Asiatic in appearance, that is, comparable to Earth's East Asian peoples in some way? Akavir seems to strike me as being quite Asian influenced, and whatever examples of architecture and weapons made their way to Tamriel, reflects this; the Blades buildings and the katana for example. Also, were all of them killed with absolutely no survivors? How about this, did some of them emigrate to Tamriel?
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Suzie Dalziel
 
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 8:05 pm

We don't know for sure, but I always imagine the Akaviri men to be Japanese looking.

As for survivors, yes. They interbred with the Imperials. People are proud to have Akaviri ancestry.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 10:52 am

We don't know for sure, but I always imagine the Akaviri men to be Japanese looking.

As for survivors, yes. They interbred with the Imperials. People are proud to have Akaviri ancestry.

Interesting, was there a book or quote from somewhere about this? So some of them did make it over to Tamriel after all?

And yes, I think you're right, the humans of Akavir would have been very much like the Japanese. The influence is all over their surviving weapons and architecture.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 4:05 pm

Edit: Never mind.
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Andrea Pratt
 
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 10:13 pm

The plain facts are, we know more about the Tsaesci than we do any humans of Akavir, assuming that, despite being golden scaled immortal snakes, Tsasci aren't human. For example, there are Imperials (subdivided into Colovian and Nibenean), Bretons, Nords and Redguards on Tamriel, and those are only the "big four" human races. For all we know, there could be numerous wildly divergent human cultures on the continent. All we know are what made it back from Uriel V's disastrous invasion and what the Akaviri who invaded in the First Era and were defeated and subjugated by Reman decided to reveal.

Just go read Mysterious Akavir and 2920, bearing in mind that, even in-universe, 2920 is historical fiction rather than accurate historical data.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 7:19 pm

It is possible but it seems as if we will never know. The humans that originally lived on Akavir were apparently eaten by the Tsaesci and the survivors who searched for Dragons and Dragon born probably interbred with other races and faded much like the ancestors of the current Falmer did. Also like the Falmer, there could be survivors somewhere living in Akavir or in another unspecified location. Remember, Dragons, Werebeast and Falmer are all thought to be extinct or myths by the masses.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 9:34 am

Sorry for the previous comment, misinterpreted your post. :sweat:

We don't know much about the humans of Akavir. We do know that the Tsaesci claimed to have eaten and "still sort of look like them." Now, that Akaviri architecture, artifacts, and the like do have a Japanese aesthetic, so I personally always imagined them as looking Japanese, though.

But we don't know of the Akaivri artifacts in the game are Mannish or Tsaesci.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 11:11 pm

I figured that the original Akaviri Dragonguard were in fact Akaviri men. Hence how they were humanoid, bipedal, wore armor, and carried shields.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Remanada brings up something interesting: the Dragonguard, despite appearing as armored knights like the Blades, had unnaturally long lifespans. The book attributes it to vampire blood,a lthough it's unclear if the Tsaeci were literally vampires that could pass the strain on to others, or if it was indeed possible for men and Tsaeci to interbreed.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 12:47 pm

I read here on the forums that the last Kothringi survivors of the Thrassian plague got on a ship, were turned away from ports on Tamriel, and sailed east. Can't remember who posted it though. If they made it to Akavir, they might have been accepted. As for the humans being devoured by the Tsaescii, I take that to mean that the Tsaescii conquered and occupied the human controlled territory on Akavir, and therefore rule over the humans.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 5:57 pm

I read here on the forums that the last Kothringi survivors of the Thrassian plague got on a ship, were turned away from ports on Tamriel, and sailed east. Can't remember who posted it though. If they made it to Akavir, they might have been accepted. As for the humans being devoured by the Tsaescii, I take that to mean that the Tsaescii conquered and occupied the human controlled territory on Akavir, and therefore rule over the humans.

I remember reading somewhere (and I'm not sure where) the Tsaeci version of mantling isn't "walk it till you become it" but "eat it to become it". Hence the desire to kill ("eat") dragons? Hmm...
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 6:55 pm

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/tsaesci-creation-myth-and-we-ate-it-become-it
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 4:37 pm

I remember reading somewhere (and I'm not sure where) the Tsaeci version of mantling isn't "walk it till you become it" but "eat it to become it". Hence the desire to kill ("eat") dragons? Hmm...
It isn't their version of mantling, since that is a constant. It's just a unique ability they have.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 10:55 am

Make them eat [censored]. Then we'll se who has the last laugh.
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Red Sauce
 
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 1:31 pm

Everyone know they are latino..... People with their lack of lore knowledge these days....
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 7:42 am

Everyone know they are latino..... People with their lack of lore knowledge these days....
Seriously, thought this was common knowledge.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 4:05 pm

It is my guess that they are.

I think the mer races also have Asiatic / Pacific influences as opposed to the European themed Nedes or the African Sahara themed Redguards. But the mer are more central Asian Mongol, Turkic & Chinese influences. Khajiit I think are Indian / Persian. Argonians I think are native American themed.

Akavir I think will be Japanese themed. That and also maybe latino America due to the snake people. I think it was the ancient Mayans who had the city of snakes. The Aztecs had the Jaguar people so that could be the Khajiit type race.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 11:44 am

YR: I trust that you will find this most intriguing...

DOMINION ROYAL SPORETHEQUE
ALINOR REQ. ONEIROCULE 00856vg-9322175fk
'SUBTEXTUAL PRISMTRACT: TECHNICAL INTERVIEW OF Hadronia Queynosian'


ERRATUM: Subject is a Cyrodiless with 68-years. A ranking Moth-Bhikkhuni and Imperial Master-of-the-Tapestries [resident genealogist of the Cyrodiilic Imperial Court], she was captured without resistance after Saryho Naarifin's triumphant taking of The City.

RSDALATHIIL OF SUNHOLD: ...not test me, you [Acceptable Scurrility]. Whatever hushrumors of my cruelty are spreading listeric among your fellow-rats down in the bastion, allow me to assure you, they are gravely under-exaggerated accounts.

HADRONIA QUEYNOSIAN: [Unintelligable chanting]

RS: Blasphemy at this late hour is ill-advised.

VANARSYNO OF LILLANDRIL: I believe she has gone mad.

HQ: You misapprehend; I pray for your souls.

[An electric hiss and tandem thunderclap, then shrill testimony]

RS: Cooperate, or I’ll increase magnitude past what your monkey-intellect is capable of dreaming darkly. Now, Confess: your sovereign’s lineage is a trite sham, a stale shadowplay at salic legitimacy. Even amongst the roach-spans of your mannish dynasts, these Medes have the gentility of highwaymen.

HQ: I…I…cann…

RS: Confess! [Electric hissing]

VL: Give her a moment to recover.

RS:…

HQ: I…cannot speak to such facts, Saryho, but allow me to lay digitals upon the silk so that I might déroule Lord Titus’ blooded cocoonery.

RS: [Acceptable Profanities]. We will not be fouled with your puerile-

VL: Let her handle the tapestries.

RS: But, Saryho-

VL: I want to see where this leads. I take full responsibility for what may transpire.

[Bootheel shuffling, clank of iron, rustling of pure silk]

HQ: Yes, yes, mind the warp and follow the weft, pluck deftly fabulars like the whispergut on a ghostlute…Ah ha! Hear the Ancestors sing their miiths! Oh, Mara, the chords progress geometrishins through the golden boughs! We start crowned in the halcyon of Ald Cyrod, glorious Remanistan.

VL: You may continue…

RS: [Snark-under-breath].

HQ: First father was Nixshzahar-Diiem-Phuoc, an Akaviri Hussar who was amongst the first to genuflect at Pale Pass. Reman I made him Margrave of Ontus. He gestated and became Medebras the Whitehanded, who begat-

RS: Impossible! Absurdities without foundation!

VL: Indeed. I find this quite hard to believe. I was under the impression that the Akaviri were snakes, thus incompatible for coupling with man. Or were they mannish after all?

HQ: Yes, but no, the original Men-of-‘Vir were eaten by the invaders, the Tsaesci.

RS: Then how can you possibly justify your lunatic draqe-reading?

HQ: After all is key. After all oaths were said and deeds done, the ‘Viri in Remanistan were Cyrodils-proper and henceforth, indistinguishable from their Nede-spouses save for custom and dress.

VL: How?

HQ: This I will not tell.

RS: Shall I shock the crone?

VL: No need.

[Cacophony beyond all Saussurism]

VL: I will ask again and you will answer gladly: How?

HQ:…They came across the ocean in sinistershins ideograms, limited, reptilian hind-brain’d isolationists who could only manage a single thot-form in a nymic. One for a tree, a tower, a spoke, brass, cheese, a city, a nipble. But then they met Reman in the Jeralls, and they drank of his Emperor Voice ate of his tongue-body of nymical polysynthesisbecomingchimericalsyllabariesdextershinstowardsmultiformdenotatagrandmothrmadastotranslatioimperiumcyrodaontomasserethtoshoutwearenucyrodiilcomeintogapemawofinkymisruleuponvoidtoclaimrightofmiraculousixnigulobirthandcultivateeffortlessproliquerityontoamarantmythicherosjourneyinautumnthwartingholdfastgodofbeigenightformtosquashunderfootallourgrandestkadathgrailquestfeverhopesanddreams…

[ABRUPT FACET FRACTURE – END OF PRISMTRACT – NOTE WELL: The Honorable Justiciars Vanarsyno and Rsdalathiil were later found several species of dead in the interview chamber, their corpses eaten down to their possipoints by moths. No trace of the prisoner could be found]
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 1:01 pm

I think that pretty much clears things up. :wink:
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Silvia Gil
 
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 3:46 pm

in layman terms please
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Laura-Lee Gerwing
 
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 7:41 am

Akaviri were Orientalism incarnate, until they ate Reman's words like eucharist.
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Holli Dillon
 
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 8:04 am

Akaviri were Orientalism incarnate, until they ate Reman's words like eucharist.

So in even more layman terms - "They were East Asian in appearance until they ate the words of their hero ruler / god, in a ceremony much like Christians of our world do when they take Holy Communion and accept the covenant of Jesus Christ"
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 8:33 am

And then you die disappointed.


I remember that the Snakes never used armor. Yet the Akaviri did have armor. I subscribe to the theory that the Snakes rule over the men, so most of the footsoldiers are men. That also explains how they bred with humans.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 11:19 am

And then you die disappointed.


I remember that the Snakes never used armor. Yet the Akaviri did have armor. I subscribe to the theory that the Snakes rule over the men, so most of the footsoldiers are men. That also explains how they bred with humans.

You know, that's probably not terribly far off. Eating and becoming is fine and all, but the practical upshot was probably similar to this.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 7:03 am

There's a ghost Akaviri in Oblivion (Sancre Tor). He's just a human wearing Blades armor.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 2:06 pm

It never said he was Tsaescii either.
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