Who else wants Werewolves and Vampires in Skyrim.Does it seem like a good idea?
Does the Lore fit to have were creatures in Skyrim or becoming one?

Source info is welcome
(Hope we can become a were creature again)

I'm not sure how exactly they'd do it but if they do it well, then yes.

The lore screams for werecreatures/vampires in Skyrim.

It should include Vampires, werebears, and werewolves.


If it doesn't at least include werewolves as far as I'm concerned it shouldn't be called a TES game.




Not that it wont be good and enjoyable, but if they're out it may as well be called "Generic Medieval Fantasy Game 2." With Game 1 being Oblivion.

Yes werewolves, vampires and werebears!!!

If they're not included I'm going to rename all the file folders and shortcuts "generic medieval fantasy game #2"

Do u have sources I can read involving were creatures n werewolves specifically so I can be rightfully angry if they don't add them in?

I'll mention I want both, but not as they appeared in past games. They've been pretty lukewarm before, little more than a palette swap and a stat boost (for powerful characters in Morrowind, quite possible since it was second-expansion territory, being a werewolf could actually make you weaker in combat). What I want to see is something that makes them fundamentally different, as well as an actual affliction, instead of just a buff with almost no downsides.

As far as social rejection, somewhere in-between would be good. In Morrowind it was kind of obnoxious that glowing eyes made you a universal pariah no matter how covered up they were, and it was equally obnoxious in Oblivion when basically no one cared. Supposedly Cyrodiilic vampires could blend in, but tell that to the notorious ugly-old-man-face. Even at the worst stage all you got was the occasional nasty remark. A way to hide your condition, and a less universal reaction that could let you wear a different disguise or go somewhere else, would be nice. Also good would be if the AI were advanced enough for layered reputations and recognition; if you're discovered in a town where nobody knows or recognizes you, word doesn't spread to areas where you're popular. If no one in Town A has heard of Jim Jones, how are they telling everyone in Town B that this vampire they spotted is Jim Jones? Suspicion would also be a cool addition, such as guards searching you for weapons when approaching royalty or wanting to see your face in town if it's shrouded, and they're actively looking for someone (wanted posters). I would enjoy hiding out in poor sectors riddled with plague, where nobody looks for long, where people covering themselves against the cold or to hide their own diseases is common, where I don't have to worry about catching anything myself thanks to the vampirism or worry about guards particularly caring about the dead homeless. I could sleep anonymously in a poorhouse during the day and slip out without questions during the night to hunt.

As for feeling different, you could try giving a werewolf bonuses to things like climbing (if implemented) and bashing damage to objects, in addition to any strength-based boosts. Dismemberment, in reality, is not easy or common, and it shouldn't be in combat (again, if implemented), but with claws and superhuman strength would probably not be so hard to lycanthropes. Imagine a werewolf rapidly scaling the town wall, ripping out the door to a house, and tearing the occupant's arms off as they raise them in self-defense. That is a beast you don't want to screw with. Instead of the "one kill per night" limit, you could have something similar to the breath bar/suffocation effect, where the meter ticks down the longer you go without spilling blood and starts to harm you if ignored. Not nearly as quickly, of course, but it would help add some aggression to the form and make it feel more like playing a frenzied monster.

And of course, downsides. Vampire and werewolf hunters, for example. Professionals, who are an actual threat to ME, and not just more cannon fodder with a different equipment setup. A danger of losing equipment during a werewolf transformation, instead of it all sticking in my fur or something like Bloodmoon. Vampires needing sleep during the day, and the sun being a deadly threat at all times (immunity in Oblivion made me cringe).

Says it all.

I personally love the lore of vampires in Skyrim and it would be wonderful for them to implement it in Skyrim just as long as their not like the vampires from Twilight or Vampire Diaries or the six maniacs from True Blood (I've had to endure watching vampire TV series and Movies with my family, some of the most painful moments of my life..........but it does work with the girls :hubbahubba: ). I would love to see vampires coming out of lakes it would scare the [censored] out of me through

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/daggerfall-on-lycanthropy

I love ur ideas!!!!

Thank u

Both, I dont just want both in game i need them!! ^_^

If you're seen you should be labeled an outcast for X days. There should be some quests and options, really make it part of the game!

I need them as well:)

+10 approval all of your ideas, particularly the werewolf ones

Frankly, Bethesda already has vampires done for them, its called Madmole's Unholy Darkness. Seriously, if they followed that path, they'd be all set essentially. Of course you'd have werewolves to do. I could see some hybrid of underworld / bloodmoon working.

I'd laugh if most of Skyrim consisted of popular oblivion and morrowind mods ported over to the new game engine

Vampires are awesome, but werewolves are needed in a next-gen game(Playable Werewolves). Werebears might be cool, but I prefer stalking the province as a wolfman/wolfwoman.

As for vampire vs werewolves war....no. That would be too original, too cliche. Closest thing to a werewolf vs vampire would be a werewolf vampire hunter, not too cliche and very different.

Maybe werewolf pack wars? "We werewolves hate you werepigs(wereboars) and werebooboos(Werebears)." Like when the Quarra vs Aundae vs Berne in Morrowind. But it seems unlikely since in Daggerfall werewolves and wereboars lived in the same lair and the vampires in every game where often against each other.

I hope both are included. Rather than the old werewolves vs. vampires thing (which can be great if done with a little class -- and good writing -- but is admittedly associated with too many modern interpretations to come off well), I'd like to see werewolves vs. werewolves and vampires vs. vampires.

If Cyrodiilic vampires were present, and given an overhaul (their ability to blend in could be better justified with subtle natures and beautiful character art) they might clash with Skyrim's Volkihar, which (from what little I've read) seem to be highly unpleasant and, uh... antisocial creatures.

Similarly, it's easy to imagine sidequests involving two warring werewolf factions (or werewolf and werebear factions) in Skyrim.

Oh hell yes, i'd choose a Cyrodiilic vampire over any other vampire. If there is a political plot to Skyrim, the Cyrodilic vampires would be more than welcome. I mean, this is the fourth era right? Ingame lore hints that the Cyrodilic vampires were not only in Cyrodiil, but somewhere else?

And yes, when well-fed, we still looked a bit wrinkled and old. Look at Seridur, no one would of imagined he was a vampire! He blend in so much.

A vampire vs vampire war with their own questline would be ballin'. Werewolves could have their own mini storyline as well or even fit into the war as enforcers for both sides, sort of like Trueblood. Maybe there could be secret dens of vampires all around skyrim and they are losing a war against Skyrim's Volkihar which are using werewolves as enforcers. Maybe a little bit different but a story like that with say 12-15 quests would be the one I play first in the game!

Skyrim is the home of the werewolves, and the ice vampires are simply dumb-founding, I am quite looking forward to their return and I hope Beth has seen the mistake in letting them go in Oblivion.

I'd be very surprised if there were no werewolves or similar werecreatures in Skyrim. It justs suits the province.

I that's the case, I will rant nd rant and rant until I run out of flame.

I know right! They mentioned the Volkihar vampires in a book in the forth game. It would be a shame if they left them out.