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Post » Mon May 02, 2011 7:39 am

What's with the assumption that you're a dragon? You're playing a human (or elf, breton, argonian, etc..). Besides that, it would be silly if you were immune to two Daedra Lord-created diseases, yet all the normal ones can still be contracted.


Dragon's calling the character Dragonborn seems to solidify that, I don't think they'd give a mortal a title like that if they didn't have Dragon blood in them.
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Post » Mon May 02, 2011 7:47 am


Vampires, on the other hand, can go and stay in twilight land :thumbsup: . This is Skyrim, after all, and I don't see a vampire boding well in such terrain.


You don't? Thank you need to read yourself some lore :) There is specific type of vampires native to Skyrim described in Oblivion books.
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Post » Mon May 02, 2011 5:32 am

Dragon's calling the character Dragonborn seems to solidify that, I don't think they'd give a mortal a title like that if they didn't have Dragon blood in them.

You chose not to read the rest of that post I see

You are NOT a DRAGON, you may have DRAGON BLOOD in your veins but I highly doubt we will be growing wings any time soon and flying away.....There is not reason for Beth to do this ingame at all anyways, you were called many titles in past TES games that said you were not able to catch any type of disease YET you still were able to.

Besides...I like my hero to be a little tainted
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Post » Mon May 02, 2011 4:37 am

Dragon's calling the character Dragonborn seems to solidify that, I don't think they'd give a mortal a title like that if they didn't have Dragon blood in them.

That's an assumption. For all we know, it could have metaphorical (non-physical) conotations. St. Alessia, Reman Cyrodiil, and Tiber Septim are all (presumably) Dragonborn too, yet there's no evidence of them being actual dragons.
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Post » Mon May 02, 2011 12:14 am

You chose not to read the rest of that post I see

You are NOT a DRAGON, you may have DRAGON BLOOD in your veins but I highly doubt we will be growing wings any time soon and flying away.....There is not reason for Beth to do this ingame at all anyways, you were called many titles in past TES games that said you were not able to catch any type of disease YET you still were able to.

Besides...I like my hero to be a little tainted


"Of course Bethseda may pull some common lore breaking in attempt to better serve the player base." Was in my original post. they'll break the lore for the players, they've done it before and will probably do it again but it's still lore breaking and I don't particularly care for it. Which is why I'd rather have the character immune to them, allowing it to be modded in later, perhaps add magical rings like Hircine's Ring from morrowind.

That's an assumption. For all we know, it could have metaphorical (non-physical) conotations. St. Alessia, Reman Cyrodiil, and Tiber Septim are all (presumably) Dragonborn too, yet there's no evidence of them being actual dragons.


Well, Uriel Septim VII was supposed to be a direct descendant of Tiber Septim, and I believe anyone who finished Oblivion remembers the final scene and what happened to Martin Septim, Uriel's son. So by this tracing lineage back... I believe you get the point.
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 8:04 pm

That's an assumption. For all we know, it could have metaphorical (non-physical) conotations. St. Alessia, Reman Cyrodiil, and Tiber Septim are all (presumably) Dragonborn too, yet there's no evidence of them being actual dragons.

Yep
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Post » Mon May 02, 2011 4:08 am

Well, Uriel Septim VII was supposed to be a direct descendant of Tiber Septim, and I believe anyone who finished Oblivion remembers the final scene and what happened to Martin Septim, Uriel's son. So by this tracing lineage back... I believe you get the point.

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He broke the Amulet of Kings and used the immense power released to become the avatar of a god (Akatosh).

Nothing about him being an actual dragon.
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Post » Mon May 02, 2011 11:23 am

An actual dragon no but only an heir of Talos blood can wear the amulet.
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And I'd think only one of his blood could break it to inherit the power aswell. I don't think Talos would leave that lying around in an amulet that could possibly be stolen and broken by anyone.
So the entire Septim line must have Dragon blood in them. I think it's fairly obvious. You may continue to lobby for your Vampirism and Anthropy despite lore. I'll take my leave. Good luck.
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 8:27 pm

While I didn't mess around with Werecreatures too much and didn't care much for how vampires were done in Oblivion I'm indifferent to it. However they should be included since its a part to the lore and it should be in Skyrim.
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 8:20 pm

Well, they were in Morrowind. The return of the Bloodmoon!
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Post » Mon May 02, 2011 6:21 am

"Of course Bethseda may pull some common lore breaking in attempt to better serve the player base." Was in my original post. they'll break the lore for the players, they've done it before and will probably do it again but it's still lore breaking and I don't particularly care for it. Which is why I'd rather have the character immune to them, allowing it to be modded in later, perhaps add magical rings like Hircine's Ring from morrowind.

Sooo any one on a console will just have to what? lump it and complain that only people on a pc can have vamps and were creatures options?, thats not really prudent thinking there is it.
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 8:48 pm

An actual dragon no but only an heir of Talos blood can wear the amulet.
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And I'd think only one of his blood could break it to inherit the power aswell. I don't think Talos would leave that lying around in an amulet that could possibly be stolen and broken by anyone.
So the entire Septim line must have Dragon blood in them. I think it's fairly obvious. You may continue to lobby for your Vampirism and Anthropy despite lore. I'll take my leave. Good luck.

I am sure they will add it now go take your hate someplace else before I CRY!!! WWAAAHHHH
Besides there ARE VAMPIRES IN LORE THAT LIVE IN SKYRIM so uhh ya, and while it may not say in books that werewolves ARE in Skyrim it just shows it that this is what looks to be their kinda place so we all say they seem to be good picks to go there
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Sooo any one on a console will just have to what? lump it and complain that only people on a pc can have vamps and were creatures options?, thats not really prudent thinking there is it.


Ya not kool at all, not everyone on these boards are PC gamers
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 8:20 pm

Didn't Talos become akatosh or something?

If so because talos became a dragon his descendants would have been called dragonborn because they are the dedscendants of Talos. They wouldn't actually be part dragon themselves, particularly if they were born before he became a dragon. Besides the geneaology of dragons and humans is COMPLETLY different even if akatosh had kids for him to have kids his genetic material would have to had remained human in order for him to successfully impregnate someone. Thus even if he was a dragon at the time his descendants would essentially be human.
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Post » Mon May 02, 2011 8:35 am

Yep I agree, well put
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Post » Mon May 02, 2011 12:13 pm

Didn't Talos become akatosh or something?

If so because talos became a dragon his descendants would have been called dragonborn because they are the dedscendants of Talos. They wouldn't actually be part dragon themselves, particularly if they were born before he became a dragon. Besides the geneaology of dragons and humans is COMPLETLY different even if akatosh had kids for him to have kids his genetic material would have to had remained human in order for him to successfully impregnate someone. Thus even if he was a dragon at the time his descendants would essentially be human.


Talos replaced Lorkhan. Not Akatosh.

And Mankar Camoran wore the amulet of kings, and was not a septim heir.
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Post » Mon May 02, 2011 10:52 am

Lore or not, becoming a vampire or werewolf was always a fun mechanic in TES. Not only was it fun however, but it was exceptionally useful. I think both will probably be in the game, but we shall see.
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 11:52 pm

Lore or not, becoming a vampire or werewolf was always a fun mechanic in TES. Not only was it fun however, but it was exceptionally useful. I think both will probably be in the game, but we shall see.

Yes and when they announce BOTH or even when they say Werewolves will be in, I shall bake everyone virtual cookies!!
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 11:32 pm

200+ posts, have to lock this one ;)

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1160507-werewolvesvampires-thread-5/
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