So, Ive noticed a lot of talk about this and was wondering where everybody stood? Remember, West Coast (the original Brother Hood of Steel) sole purpose was to gather lost pre-war technology, and the East Coast Brotherhood's want to put the people of the Wasteland as their top priority.

well, east coast would be more popular to the masses, so they'd have all the extra support. Go E-BoS!

This should be in Fallout Universe Forum.

Theres a lot more people on this forum.

Doesn't matter.
Wrong forum is still wrong forum.

I don't really understand what the purpose of this thread is but uhm... I'm going to say Mid-West BOS (Tactics).
IIRC those bastards have a [censored] load of soldiers.
They have quality and quantity (just not a quantity of quality)
So if anyone's going to win I'd say it's Mid-West.

The purpose is to start a discussion, and I would agree with you but.....fallout tactics shouldnt even legally have Fallout in its name, the company that made that had no legal right to use the name of the franchise. So I really dont consider it to contain any real Fallout lore so IMO the mid-west brotherhood doesnt exist. Besides, it was more like Starcraft than Fallout.

As for an all out war, not just wich i prefer, Id have to say the West Coast would win. Due to their much larger bank of pre-war tech compared to the East.

No, they would not. Tactics and hardware don't mean jack if logistics are insufficient. The East coasters' home base is the Citadel. The west coasters' home base is thousands of miles away. That's a looooong way to travel.

The East Coast have their own tech, even better than pre-war: fresh spoils of victory from their Enclave entanglement, don't discount that. That includes plasma rifles, salvaged enclave power armor models, and vertibirds, as well as an air field to operate them out of.

Besides... the Outcasts no longer have a leg to stand on now with harping on Lyons for not doing tech recovery. Lyons has a heaping pile of aforementioned Enclave spoils, as well as a high-volume water purifier. So now the Outcasts are stuck holding the Deserter bag. The West Coasters will not be happy with that. Desertion is a serious offense.

And finally, Lyons is in the right. One of the definitions of "Technology" is "application of science". What good is technology if it's just squirreled away?

Good point. I didnt think about the salvage that Lynos would have from the conquest over the enclave, so youre right, east coast would beat west.

Well, doesn't matter if you don't like it.
It's semi-canon whether you like it or not.
Besides, it's not a bad game, heck, it's not a bad fallout game.
It's really all right.

MadCat: The West Coast Brotherhood also has access to Enclave technology (including anything left at Navarro) and can likely manufacture Vertibirds (one of the quests in FO2 was to deliver the plans for vertibirds to the BOS). They've probably got more soldiers, more technology, more everything (at least prior to the war with the NCR). They've certainly got better strategic depth than the East Coast BOS, since the East Coast BOS is all within a few miles of each other and the West Coast BOS is spread out across hundreds or thousands of miles.

Funny because they are the same faction but on different sides of the country. Saddens me watching friends fighting each other. I'd say if they ever had beef with each other. Its best if they never met each other again. :cryvaultboy:

You mean the West Coast BoS vs. The Outcasts? Because there's no East Coast BoS in my game, only the ruins of The Citadel and a bunch of corpses. :whistling:

God I hope The Outcasts take over D.C. by the time Fallout 4 comes out... a man can dream...

I hate both sides of BoS. The East Coast are the generic "Holy Knights" like in fantasy settings, which is boring in Fallout's setting. The West Coast attacked NCR for no reason, destroyed their economy, attempted to raid Hoover Dam, and went insane from Stealth Boy overdose.

I'm glad BoS were beat and severely weakened by NCR.

West Coast. I can't stand how the East coast thinks giving things away will solve our problems. As a scientist, I also like how they try to get all the pre war technology together.

I prefer the East Coast... Outcasts. ;D

Who told you that nonsense? The IP was owned by Interplay at the time (They created FO and hadn't hit their bad times, heck I think Brian Fargo was still working there, real golden age of Interplay), Microfote made the game, and Interplay published it. I believe Chris Taylor was producer (I remember asking him questions on the old Interplaygames forums and getting an answer).

Certain elements of the game has been quoted in FO3, and Bethesda considers the overall major events canon.

The west coast would actually have less soldiers than the east. The main reason being is they refuse to recruit the 'locals' and after the war with NCR there numbers would have been seriously depleted. But the East see the need for soldiers and don't care who they are as long as they can hold a gun, they are in. Which works in their case you don't need tech savy men when your fighting the east coast super mutants

Well, since there is already West Coast BOS in East Coast, since the so-called outcasts don't give a crap about Lyons and his goody-two-shoes techniques and stick more to the good ol' West Coast way.

West Coast would win...hands down.

It'd be an unfair fight.

• West Coast has Laser Pistols (Wattz 1000 Laser Pistol vs. AEP7 Laser Pistol. There's a huge difference in their quality).
  
• West Coast has Laser Rifles (Wattz 2000 Laser Rifle vs. AER9 Laser Rifle. There's also a huge difference in their quality).
  
• West Coast has Plasma Pistols (Glock 86 Plasma Pistol vs. Enclave Plasma Pistol. Insane amount of difference in usefulness and quality).
  
• West Coast has Plasma Rifles (Winchester P94 Plasma Rifle vs. Enclave Plasma Rifle. Too much difference in usefulness and quality to even compare).
  
• West Coast has Power Armor (T-51B Power Armor vs. T-45d Power Armor. Fallout 3 Fans can even recognize the difference if they haven't played the first 2 games).

Now wait a second...

They both have all these weapons I've described. Oh yeah, they're different models of said weapons. So why would they win? Much better tech, much better training, many more seasoned men.

Edit: I forgot Pulse Weapons from their battles with the Enclave.

Yea but the East coast can just send in Liberty Prime (when they fix it) and because its immortal; the east coast would win. :celebration:

I'd picked West Coast because thats the group that my character would prefer joining. Although if East Coast can repair Liberty Prime then its a coin flip

Didn't the east coast guys capture some vertibirds? Couldn't they just bomb the [censored] out the west coast guys who are low on men anyways?

The East coast BOS aren't exactly swimming with members either...

West MANUFACTURES vertibirds.