OK so I watched a programme on TV today about whales, and wondered to myself "could whales survive fallout?" most live deep in the ocean, so wouldn't be affected by the radiation so much, and some (blue whale for example) can live for over 200 years, so there would be a possibility that they could survive until the world had started to recover. or had whaling wiped them all out. Or does this even matter? whatever, what do you think?

Probably not, judging by the fact that all of the water sources in Fallout have come in contact with radiation, which would mutate the whales.

But that would be scary as ****, to see a giant, mutated whale.

Well, in real life if all the nukes were launched, bascially there would be a dark coverin around the world full of radiation, so nothing is safe. Then the inland water is irradiated which could drift out to seas. Whales have to surface at sometime so they couldn't get away from it. That would probally kill them out.

I'm not sure if the airborne FEV got out into the sea. If so then they might be able to mutate, if not then they probally all died.

Then there is the possibility that sharks could have mutated and ate all the whales, that would be even more scary, sharks the size of whales eating whales that are doubled in size.

Otherwise it doesn't even matter.

well it I don't think much radiation would get to the middle of the ocean, deep down where the whales food lives. and honestly who would be trying to nuke the ocean? (canada?) lol jk

Like I said the nuclear fallout would surround the whole Earth. Radiation is in the clouds then as the term is Fallout, the radiation falls out of the atmosphere. If thousands of nukes were launched it would cover the world putting Fallout everywhere. The whales have to surfacea t sometime to breath.

I believe the are all dead as well, just a hunch.

Before the great war, the world was running out of resources. "Too many humans and not enough space or resources to go around" and food shortages were a problem of America. Environmental laws ignored or out right scrapped or just never in place in the Fallout Universe.

The United Nations fell apart and every nation hated one another. In our timeline the oceans arn't that good of shape and we have laws and nations working together to protect whales. So chances are Whales were already extinct or close to it before the great war.

Then there was the great war: "The Earth was nearly wiped clean of life."

The ash from the world on fire would block out the sun. Plankton would die and once that happens all life in the ocean (besideds the life around volcanic vents) would die, and then there is the radiation.

"You really want to know who lost World War Z The Great War? Whales. I guess they never really had much of a chance."

yeah true. also, I read your post after I posted mine. so what about the whales that live in the arctic? lol idk why Im trying to make whales live through the fallout series

... :sadvaultboy: Again Nuclear Fallout would cover the entire Earth. There would probally be so much that it would get to the arctic. It would last a pretty long time too.

Whales all over the world would be hunted for food before the great war. No place on earth would be safe and I doubt there was any laws in place to protect them.

Plankton dies out because of the great war. Without that all life in the ocean (other then the life around volcanic vents) will die out.

*sigh* OK OK you win fallout geniuses whales have no place in the fallout universe :sadvaultboy:

I also said the airborn FEV could've mutated them. :wink_smile:

What would those mutants eat?

Also the oceans boiled but many believe that is just poetic licence.

Still if the Whales were extinct before the great war and I believe they were, they would not be around to mutate.

I'm gonna say, if the whales were mutated, some other sea creatures could have survived, which would give them a solid food source

A http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sperm_whale (tehe) could mutate and eat other ocean life, but I'd say they would eat themselves so maybe one or two are left.

Plankton is the key to all life in the ocean (not living around a volcanic vent) and once it is gone all life will die. It is a fact. The Sun would have been blocked out for years "A quiet darkness fell across the planet lasting many years."

There are fish in Fallout as seen in Fallout 2 and Fallout New Vegas but the oceans would have a large die off just after the great war. It would take several decades for the oceans to heal. A creature as large as a Whale would have nothing to eat for decades until the oceans recover. Whales can't live for decades without food.

Still if the Whales were extinct before the great war and I believe they were, they would not be around to mutate.

I don't think that every last specimen of plankton would have died. Some being Bacteria would just reproduce, those die, survivors reproduce those dies, etc. Larger sea life could slowly eat away at the smaller stuff, and by the time larger fish/whales start to die the plankton is growing all over, and now more abundant than ever. And then life goes on.

But most whales were probally extinct, not all.

Even the bacteria and very small animal life that make up plankton need energy from the sun. Bacteria would not be enough to feed fish, the bulk of what makes up plankton is plant and animal life.

Phytoplankton need light. Then not all bacterioplankton need light. Phytoplankton is a type of bacterioplankton, so it is understanable that plankton from the deep ocean would float up to the top or middle and live there.

EDIT: plankton is more of a generalization, not a species.

Why would it float up and live at the top? Does it know all the other types are dead and it knows it can take over? I don't think so. If it lives in the deep it will stay in the deep. The fish that live at the top will not, no, Can't go deep to find it.

I know plankton is more of a generalization, not a species.

It has no room to live so it moves up. Or some move up doesn't die reproduce there and so on.

In the time it would take bacteria to run out of room in the OCEANS and finally make it's way to the upper layers. The Whales and pretty much all the fish would be dead because they had nothing to eat. Fish that live in the upper layers (where most of the life is) can't swim deep to eat. Their body make up will not let them.

I still believe they were dead before the great war.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IUxK_0WLbg

If worse comes to worse, the whales shrink instead gorw legs and lungs equiped for land, and now they are living in Seattle

I would assume that a lot of animals had already been driven to extinction before the war.

Whales are mammals so they'd need to resurface for air, thus breathing in the radioactive air combined with swimming in radioactive water.....They've either mutated horribly or thier dead