It isn't that tilt imparts seasons. It is how the tilt unevenly distributes the great circle of the sun's radiation (insolation = incoming solar radiation) throughout one orbital revolution around the sun. :grad:

So, Nirn could not have a tilt, but maybe the hole Magnus ripped into the aether moves around? Sort of like Nirn is the center of the universe and everything moves around it, as opposed to Nirn orbiting a sun.

And in addition to the various little things in lore that support Earth-like seasons, I haven't seen anything that contradicts it or suggests otherwise, aside from the lack of implementation of seasons into the last two games.

Edit: As for tilt, given that Evening Star is called the "darkest month", which would suggest that Nirn does have a tilt.

There's a severed head in Kvatch with the brain exposed.

Not ingame, but in the books, there's plenty of references to what you ask about. Go do the search on TIL yourself.

Here's a quote from http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/benitah.shtml:


Yeah, I think it's safe to say that Nirn has seasons and that they work pretty much the same way ours do. Why they work that way is a more interesting question.

Okay, as a newb to ES (Oblivion being my first game and played for the first time this past summer), it is to be assumed that I'm quite ignorant about Tamriel (or Nirn?). So just going on my experience in Cyrodiil, I get from the books that there are seasons but I don't see any evidence of it in the game's environment. It does seem that it rains more in some areas than others, though that could just be coincidence, and obviously it's colder in the north, etc. Anyway, all I can add is that I wish the game developers would've implemented seasons in the weather environment.

Those are regional climates. They define the chance you have on rain, sun, overcast, storm, ect.

Seasons aren't represented in the game.

But the game isn't always aligned to the lore of Tamriel.


...clever...


I know they mention grass. I hadn't read definitive proof that the seasons were similar to earths.... and STILL, there is no proof. They may have seasons, but we cannot assume that they are like earth's.


But it is not definitive.


Darkest month where? Keep in mind, the darkest month on one place is the lightest month on another... and that is another argument.


QFT

At which point the Lore sticks up it middle finger and tells the games they can stick it where the sun don't shine.



Does it matter? Tamriel is above the equator, Nirn is spherical and there can only be a variation in hours of sun each day if the planet is slightly tilted with respect to the sun. An angled orientation creates seasons. Q.E.D.

Never mind all the other citations of seasons, http://search.freefind.com/find.html?oq=winter&id=72791987&pageid=r&_charset_=UTF-8&bcd=%C3%B7&scs=1&query=summer&Find=Search&mode=ALL&search=all, http://search.freefind.com/find.html?oq=summer&id=72791987&pageid=r&_charset_=UTF-8&bcd=%C3%B7&scs=1&query=spring&Find=Search&mode=ALL&search=all, http://search.freefind.com/find.html?pageid=r&id=72791987&query=autumn&ics=1&fr=0 and http://search.freefind.com/find.html?oq=autumn&id=72791987&pageid=r&_charset_=UTF-8&bcd=%C3%B7&scs=1&query=winter&Find=Search&mode=ALL&search=all.

Why should I and anybody take you seriously from here on?

Most likely, darkest in Cyrodiil, and if all the provinces of Tamriel are located on the same polar hemisphere, darkest in Tamriel.

QFT

Isn't it very satisfying if the discussion partner serves the perfect counter argument on a silver plate?

Now really though, come on. There are four seasons in lore, four seasons in the game Daggerfall, there are mentions of spring, summer, fall and winter, all with the necessary descriptions of the respective season (e.g. winter = cold). The actual physics (tilted axis) don't really matter. A season is (to quote wikipedia), "a division of the year, marked by changes of the weather". Period.
They may not be "created" by the same mechanics/physics as they are on earth, nonetheless, they share all the proper requisites to be called "seasons". So all you are discussing is semantics. Which, in this case
a. saves no purpose other than occupying half the lore forumites to overload TIL with search requests for seasons
b. makes you look pedantic.

Besides, you're evading the argument by constantly changing your standpoint. First, it's just "there aren't seasons", then, "there aren't seasons like earth", which is a bad style of discussion. Okay, here, I'll hand you a bone. Nirn's seasons cannot be proven to work exactly as Earth's seasons. For all purposes, though, Nirn's seasons look, smell and taste like Earth's seasons, ans thus, are seasons of Nirn in their own rights. And that's, I daresay, the real purpose of what the OP asked. And, I tell you that, he didn't ask whether the seasons of Nirn are like Earth's.

My preferred season, by the way, is the hunting season. Now don't even try to tilt my axis.

I don't doubt the seasons. I doubt the similarities between TAMRIEL and EARTH.

Make sure you read that...

I am not an idiot, and I am appalled that someone would imply it. I am doubting the similarities, and still, no one has stated them or given a lack thereof.

I changed it because people proved there were seasons. They still have not proved the similarities, Nalion.

Pssst, when it's you against everyone else, 99 times out of 100 you're wrong. And no, you aren't 1 of 100

How can I be wrong? There has yet to be provided, ample proof to state the similarities between the two. There isn't a right or wrong...

I hope you mean that as a mnemonic and not as an etymology.


Is there any solid evidence sarcasm exists in Tamriel?


Which is a silly thing to do, given that Tamriel is a setting created by people (the infamous "devs") from Earth.

You mean besides the fact that its cold in the winter and is hot in the summer on both planets northern hemispeheres

They made a planet, I am sure they can change the seasons.


That doesn't tell me anything.

I don't assume many things.

You're kidding me.

What kind of similarities are you talking about? The seasons' sequance is Earth-like, share appropriate attributes. I fail to see your point, because every source or refference of seasons in TES Lore suggest that Nirn seasons are just like Earth's. Or at least what had been told about them completely agrees with how we understand our seasons. However, there are no mention of seasons being any different than ours. Also, TES world shares same or very similar callendar like Earth, same 12 month long years, same 7 days long weeks, similar weekday names. All that suggest seasons being earth-like or very similar to Earth's

It doesn't matter, this will get nowhere. I am officially out of this argument.

Being wrong never goes anywhere. Goodbye.

The TES Lore forums: the only place where a question about Nirn's seasons turns into a four-page debate about the empirical anolysis of irrelevant minutiae in fiction.

If they have a reason for bothering to.

Now I would be 100% in favor of having 5-and-a-half season, named Zgroblouk, Jupdonk, Tortolop, Clafouch'r and Yaeou, which are caracterized by splanch harvest, marsupial frog rains, hypnokoala invasions, earthquakes, gravity inversion and a non-stop "talk like a pirate" festival respectively; but unless it is part of the setting, it's safer to assume that it's like on Earth.

Yes, it is an etymology. Insolation is an acronym. :shrug:

I assumed she was just being facetious as I was.

Unless...you knew that, and your post was part of the sarcasm? :wacko: