[Gemma Woods Illustration]

I pretty much left a while ago because of the fallout 1,2 fans. If you said anything you didn't like about FO:nv or anything you did like about FO3 you were branded as an uneducated, brain dead moron.

Seriously it got pretty bad IMO. The fallout 1,2 fan boys were getting pretty nasty.

It actually annoys me how much they also put fallout 3 down and how they put down Bethesda. FO3 was a brilliant game, There was nothing wrong with the story if I am honest. I was not reading a best selling book so I was not expecting absolutely amazing writing. I was expecting a great game and that is what I got.

I do find it hard to understand why you rate obsidian so highly above every other dev team. You only have to look at their previous games to see what kind of developers they are........

I'm not going to knock obsidian though for their story's. They did crate the fallout universe and a damn good one it is. I do think though that you fan boys need to stop knocking people who enjoyed fallout 3. I mean we could just look at the sales of fallout 3 and its scores to see how bad of a game it was.....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout_3#Awards

The one thing I hope is that Bethesda does not take most of the people opinions of this forum about the next fallout 4 game because they represent such a small minority who just cannot move on.

I suppose I am venting here but you have to understand that coming onto a forum and complimenting a game that leads to the poster receiving insults is not the best experience.

The one question I will ask you is this, Do you really believe that if obsidian had gone at it alone they would of been able to deliver a fallout game like Bethesda or bioware ? I don't http://uk.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/alphaprotocol/index.html?tag=result%3Btitle%3B1

[Catherine Harte]

Well you see, Fallout 3's story was flawed, like alot.

The story from NV was much better, and the "fan boys" are trying to educate people who are acting kind fo silly, by saying teh Enclave is an almighty super power who should return adn be the focus of every game and DLC.

Anywhoo, I dont think insulting the "fan boys" is allowed and this si probably the wrong forum for this.

[JR Cash]

Well welcome back, the Fallout section of the boards when quiet rather quickly when compared to other games.Most of the "action" is on the Skyrim boards right now, and if you want some level-headed non fan boy forum goers head on over to the community discussion.

[Laura Simmonds]

Well you see, Fallout 3's story was flawed, like alot. The story from NV was much better, and the "fan boys" are trying to educate people who are acting kind fo silly, by saying teh Enclave is an almighty super power who should return adn be the focus of every game and DLC. Anywhoo, I dont think insulting the "fan boys" is allowed and this si probably the wrong forum for this.

No someone saying they enjoyed FO3's story is not educating them and do you know why so many people want to see the enclave? I will tell you it's because they are NEW to the fallout universe and have only had one experience with them. They are part of the masses that bought the FO3 game. So i have no doubt the enclave will be back in 4 because most of us has never encountered them before and when we did we enjoyed it.

Get out of here fan boy :flamethrower:

God yawn, I enjoyed NV. If I was scoring FO3 and FONV It would be FO3 9 FONV 8. Sorry that I enjoyed fo3 more, Damn I must be one hell of a brain dead moron who plays COD games all day......

[adame]

I pretty much left a while ago because of the fallout 1,2 fans. If you said anything you didn't like about FO:nv or anything you did like about FO3 you were branded as an uneducated, brain dead moron.

Seriously it got pretty bad IMO. The fallout 1,2 fan boys were getting pretty nasty.

It actually annoys me how much they also put fallout 3 down and how they put down Bethesda. FO3 was a brilliant game, There was nothing wrong with the story if I am honest. I was not reading a best selling book so I was not expecting absolutely amazing writing. I was expecting a great game and that is what I got.

I do find it hard to understand why you rate obsidian so highly above every other dev team. You only have to look at their previous games to see what kind of developers they are........

I'm not going to knock obsidian though for their story's. They did crate the fallout universe and a damn good one it is. I do think though that you fan boys need to stop knocking people who enjoyed fallout 3. I mean we could just look at the sales of fallout 3 and its scores to see how bad of a game it was.....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout_3#Awards

The one thing I hope is that Bethesda does not take most of the people opinions of this forum about the next fallout 4 game because they represent such a small minority who just cannot move on.

I suppose I am venting here but you have to understand that coming onto a forum and complimenting a game that leads to the poster receiving insults is not the best experience.

The one question I will ask you is this, Do you really believe that if obsidian had gone at it alone they would of been able to deliver a fallout game like Bethesda or bioware ? I don't http://uk.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/alphaprotocol/index.html?tag=result%3Btitle%3B1

I pretty much agree fo3 story wasn't epicly written(still enjoyable) but thats what books are for (and people complain about the enclave Bethesda double killed them off)
.Fo1 n fo2 fans are meanies :tongue: and don't let go off sadly the dead fallout although it is still relivent .And fo3 was very fun and has revived the fallout series and sold more than fo1 n fo2 put together .

[El Khatiri]

I pretty much left a while ago because of the fallout 1,2 fans. If you said anything you didn't like about FO:nv or anything you did like about FO3 you were branded as an uneducated, brain dead moron.

Seriously it got pretty bad IMO. The fallout 1,2 fan boys were getting pretty nasty.

It actually annoys me how much they also put fallout 3 down and how they put down Bethesda. FO3 was a brilliant game, There was nothing wrong with the story if I am honest. I was not reading a best selling book so I was not expecting absolutely amazing writing. I was expecting a great game and that is what I got.

I do find it hard to understand why you rate obsidian so highly above every other dev team. You only have to look at their previous games to see what kind of developers they are........

I'm not going to knock obsidian though for their story's. They did crate the fallout universe and a damn good one it is. I do think though that you fan boys need to stop knocking people who enjoyed fallout 3. I mean we could just look at the sales of fallout 3 and its scores to see how bad of a game it was.....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout_3#Awards

The one thing I hope is that Bethesda does not take most of the people opinions of this forum about the next fallout 4 game because they represent such a small minority who just cannot move on.

I suppose I am venting here but you have to understand that coming onto a forum and complimenting a game that leads to the poster receiving insults is not the best experience.

The one question I will ask you is this, Do you really believe that if obsidian had gone at it alone they would of been able to deliver a fallout game like Bethesda or bioware ? I don't http://uk.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/alphaprotocol/index.html?tag=result%3Btitle%3B1

Alpha protocol. lol Obsidian sure do make good games!

[AnDres MeZa]

Rohugh dnt close it plzzzzzzz.

[Stat Wrecker]

Relax dude im just joking, Fallout 3 and New Vegas are both two of my favorite games. Their story may not be as good as one and two but I still think ther're every bit as good.

[Cheville Thompson]

Alpha protocol. lol Obsidian sure do make good games!

They sure do! Alpha Protocol is an awesome game.

[My blood]

Well we elitists/dinosaurs/"fan boys of FO1/2" are pretty much at it but most threads go down to "Scott Pilgrim And The Legion vs The World".
As to Fallout 3, it's a great action sci-fi dungeon crawler, but it's a horrible RPG and it's an even more horrible Fallout game.
Had Obsidian been able to deliver the game on their own then it would probably be twice the Fallout game that Fallout New Vegas is.
With NV they "had to" work with the horrible Elder Scrolls design to try to make the best out of it.
Oh and auld scad, Alpha Protocol was ace. :goodjob:

[GPMG]

do you know why so many people want to see the enclave? I will tell you it's because they are NEW to the fallout universe and have only had one experience with them. They are part of the masses that bought the FO3 game. So i have no doubt the enclave will be back in 4 because most of us has never encountered them before and when we did we enjoyed it.

The Enclave was the main antagonist of Fallout 2, and they were defeated, the large majority of them being nuked on the Oil Rig. Fallout 3 took the dead faction and revived them, making them more numerous than they were BEFORE they were catastrophically nuked. Then they got nuked again at Raven Rock, then again at Adams Airforce Base. They should have been dead after Fallout 2, no way in hell are they still alive after 3. Let me guess, you think the BoS was from Fallout 3 originally to, huh? Truth is Fallout 3 took most of the stuff from the originals and pasted it all the way across the country, and then contorted them into a "Good VS Evil" storyline.

[Tracy Byworth]

Alpha protocol. lol Obsidian sure do make good games!

I know right got GREAT ratings lol.

But to the OP yah i know what your saying and it sometimes can be annoying. I myself am now playing F2 and i like it but im not like the others and be rude all the time saying F3 svcks because i liked. Just because Bethesda made it doesn't mean anything.

[tannis]

Rohugh dnt close it plzzzzzzz.

No I didn't. Whilst it is never a good idea to post a topic that starts by flaming a percentage of the community I was hoping that everyone was mature enough to deal with it and apart from one it seems to be going OK.

[Alberto Aguilera]

Well we elitists/dinosaurs/"fan boys of FO1/2" are pretty much at it but most threads go down to "Scott Pilgrim And The Legion vs The World".
As to Fallout 3, it's a great action sci-fi dungeon crawler, but it's a horrible RPG and it's an even more horrible Fallout game.
Had Obsidian been able to deliver the game on their own then it would probably be twice the Fallout game that Fallout New Vegas is.
With NV they "had to" work with the horrible Elder Scrolls design to try to make the best out of it.
Oh and auld scad, Alpha Protocol was ace. :goodjob:

How was fo3 a horrible rpg and fonv wasn't there so similar both very unbalanced godlike characters (and fonv is going to level 50 :facepalm:) fo3 had choices in it's main quest aswell and side quests.Explain yo self.

[Meghan Terry]

I know right got GREAT ratings lol.

But to the OP yah i know what your saying and it sometimes can be annoying. I myself am now playing F2 and i like it but im not like the others and be rude all the time saying F3 svcks because i liked. Just because Bethesda made it doesn't mean anything.

Ace hi 5 that was ACE :foodndrink:

[Jerry Cox]

Well we elitists/dinosaurs/"fan boys of FO1/2" are pretty much at it but most threads go down to "Scott Pilgrim And The Legion vs The World".As to Fallout 3, it's a great action sci-fi dungeon crawler, but it's a horrible RPG and it's an even more horrible Fallout game.Had Obsidian been able to deliver the game on their own then it would probably be twice the Fallout game that Fallout New Vegas is.With NV they "had to" work with the horrible Elder Scrolls design to try to make the best out of it.Oh and auld scad, Alpha Protocol was ace. :goodjob:

Sorry I have to disagree, I dont think they could of made a good enough engine.

The Enclave was the main antagonist of Fallout 2, and they were defeated, the large majority of them being nuked on the Oil Rig. Fallout 3 took the dead faction and revived them, making them more numerous than they were BEFORE they were catastrophically nuked. Then they got nuked again at Raven Rock, then again at Adams Airforce Base. They should have been dead after Fallout 2, no way in hell are they still alive after 3. Let me guess, you think the BoS was from Fallout 3 originally to, huh? Truth is Fallout 3 took most of the stuff from the originals and pasted it all the way across the country, and then contorted them into a "Good VS Evil" storyline.

That's the great thing about sci-fi and video games. You can make anything happen, What do you think the likely hood of the average fallout fan going back and researching all of fallout's lore and history.

Please when fallout 4 comes out do not buy it if you're a fallout 1,2 fan as you will just bring the board down with all your complaining.

[Joanne]

Alpha protocol was a terrible game lol another game full of bugs. It got very average reviews

[Vicky Keeler]

Sorry I have to disagree, I dont think they could of made a good enough engine.




That's the great thing about sci-fi and video games. You can make anything happen, What do you think the likely hood of the average fallout fan going back and researching all of fallout's lore and history.

Please when fallout 4 comes out do not buy it if you're a fallout 1,2 fan as you will just bring the board down with all your complaining.

I agree the dinosaurs are meanies at times but your making us new fallout fans (fallout eggs )look bad here.

[!beef]

I agree the dinosaurs are meanies at times but your making us new fallout fans (fallout eggs )look bad here.

Hmm maybe but you have to understand that getting insulted because you like a game is madness.

How will you feel when FO4 comes out and you are talking about it in a topic and it gets taken over by them saying again how rubbish the game is? It will just de-rail the threads made.

[meg knight]

How was fo3 a horrible rpg?

Skills dumbed down.
SPECIAL dumbed down.
17 sidequests, most was "shoot stuff!"
Ridiculous dialogue with good and evil choices.
Quests with "save baby or eat it in front of it's mother" solutions.
Overall the game had too much damn action, too much enemies and dungeons and loot and *cue Michael Bay stuff for about 700+ hours*.
There was too much emphasis on "killing stuff" than there were on actual "role-playing".

So why was FO3 a horrible RPG?
Because the emphasis was not on character specialization nor on dialogue or quests with choices that mattered.
It focused too much on shooting people with cool mode VATS than it did with actual roleplaying, and the choices it "did" give us were so limited and ended up being black and white anyway.

So sorry, but my standard for a good RPG lies higher than being able to pick good and evil choices while grinding up a super character while running through instances.

[Ladymorphine]

Hmm maybe but you have to understand that getting insulted because you like a game is madness.

How will you feel when FO4 comes out and you are talking about it in a topic and it gets taken over by them saying again how rubbish the game is? It will just de-rail the threads made.

Ohh i completely agree i see fo3 get crapped on in someway everyday while in the new vegas section.It rages me like crazy how little people respect fo3 and it's fans and i've fell out with people on this forum due to it sad but it's based on a true story.

[Devils Cheek]

Skills dumbed down.
SPECIAL dumbed down.
17 sidequests, most was "shoot stuff!"
Ridiculous dialogue with good and evil choices.
Quests with "save baby or eat it in front of it's mother" solutions.
Overall the game had too much damn action, too much enemies and dungeons and loot and *cue Michael Bay stuff for about 700+ hours*.
There was too much emphasis on "killing stuff" than there were on actual "role-playing".

So why was FO3 a horrible RPG?
Because the emphasis was not on character specialization nor on dialogue or quests with choices that mattered.
It focused too much on shooting people with cool mode VATS than it did with actual roleplaying, and the choices it "did" give us were so limited and ended up being black and white anyway.

So sorry, but my standard for a good RPG lies higher than being able to pick good and evil choices while grinding up a super character while running through instances.

Ok there was plenty of dialouge that was fun and engaging and same with the side quests they usually have some moral dilemma to them .And come fly with me you can randomly just make the rockets crash into each other and killing the aliens thats EVIL to me yeah there was a lot of action and a lot of people liked sorry we aint all pacifists and special and skills are dumbed down in both games .And your being a prime example of a fallout dinosaur meanie :tongue:And there was alot more then 17 sidequests.

[Nicole Coucopoulos]

*Sigh* I do not see all of this "Fallout 3 hate" so much as people, such as the OP, saying that the original fans need to go away and be forgotten because we like the games that started the series.

[Amanda Furtado]

Your a super character in fonv as well and thats before the level 50 raise.

[Kayla Oatney]

Skills dumbed down.
SPECIAL dumbed down.
17 sidequests, most was "shoot stuff!"
Ridiculous dialogue with good and evil choices.
Quests with "save baby or eat it in front of it's mother" solutions.
Overall the game had too much damn action, too much enemies and dungeons and loot and *cue Michael Bay stuff for about 700+ hours*.
There was too much emphasis on "killing stuff" than there were on actual "role-playing".

So why was FO3 a horrible RPG?
Because the emphasis was not on character specialization nor on dialogue or quests with choices that mattered.
It focused too much on shooting people with cool mode VATS than it did with actual roleplaying, and the choices it "did" give us were so limited and ended up being black and white anyway.

So sorry, but my standard for a good RPG lies higher than being able to pick good and evil choices while grinding up a super character while running through instances.

I partly agree with you, FNV was basically an upgraded version of FO3 but was hit by bugs.