I like you. You're good people. :foodndrink:

Oh no. It takes no effort to not care. But to care less often takes an insain amount of effort. For instance, this armor thing. Many people don't care. To care less than that would take effort on their part, because they really think its not worth caring about in the first place.

In other news...I'm very very bored. Hopefully that q and a comes out soon.

I was more excited for this game than any I can remember, but now I am disgusted. That might sound funny, but it is true. The thing that made me fall in love with TES was the immense complexity and diversity in every aspect of the games. Oblivion dumbed it down a lot, and now Skyrim is going to take TES into shallower waters, I fear. They need to get Todd out of there for the next one. His whole streamlining philosophy is killing the series - though making it more commercially successful I suppose, which is all they seem to care about anymore.

You didn't read this thread at all, did you?

How are people so gullible and apt to believe anything just because someone makes a thread/OP about it??? I will never understand that....

It would be wise to withhold judgement for now.

I'm pretty sure it's something he has ready to copy and paste into a thread here when he sees a criticism about Skyrim.

Then you obviously didn't mod Fallout very much because Fallout has MORE slots then Oblivion. IIRC they were going to do individual armor parts but decided to go back to the fallout classic body and helmet.

I KNOW you asked about the slot options when Fallout 3 was first released because I answered it. So let me refresh your memory.

Fallout 3 has the following slots.
- Head
- Hair
- UpperBody
- LeftHand
- RightHand
- Weapon
- PipBoy
- Backpack
- Necklace
- Headband
- Hat
- EyeGlasses
- NoseRing
- Earrings
- Mask
- Choker
- MouthObject
- BodyAddOn1
- BodyAddOn2
- BodyAddOn3

Now we KNOW Skyrim will have the following:
- Body
- Boots
- Gloves
- Helm

And we can assume we will have at least these:
- Ring 1
- Ring 2
- Amulet
- Tail (For beast races)
- Hair (Been in every game
- Head (Same as hair)
- Ears

Now, we can't say for sure if there are any additional slots like Fallout, though its safe to say there will be other slots I have not mentioned, and if lucky, Bethesda will take modding into consideration and give us some extra slots like Fallout.

Excellent glad you posted that picture, you missed out at arrow, now look at this pic again. As a suit it's folded in half just like the robe in the menu or any FO sets are. It's not going to show a Ginger bread man layout of the armour, it shows in game items. Now you can clearly see the Greeves folded underneath, they are visible between the arms and chest plate. If you look closely at how the section interacts with the belt it's not part of the chest bit but under the armour and is there fore the greeves.

Now I'm not for this I'm just pointing out don't get your hopes up ppl!!! In my eyes it's definative that they are one peice. From the comments, picture and the list, you should be quite happy with that.

And before ppl shout consolamised or streamlined or noobed, I thinks it's more about smithing variation and keeping the enchanting slots equal on armour and robes as it's stupid for pure mages to get 1 less slot like in ob.

So your armor doesn't clip horrendously.

:tongue: lol

Quite probably. It disturbs me that there are those who feel compelled to do such things. You would think he'd have better things to do than come to the forum for this game and complain about how he doesn't like it.

I'd much rather have clipping

It is not a huge thing to me either way, but overall more customization is good.

Meh, same difference.

I'm slow today. Edited out after I thought better on commenting on the issue. But you and your lightning speed, got there first.

YEESSSSSSSSS!!!! You have given me hope!!!!

Wow, why do people keep saying its dumded down and streamlined goin just from a few screenshots. Wait till youve played it or know the facts. I personaly dont know what direction skyrims goin but iam excited/intrigued to see what skyrim has to offer, and as for the armor theres different types of ore + smithing i wonder if u can customise/create your own, 11.11.11 cant come quick enough.

Ahhh is this confirmed ? omg :sadvaultboy: :shakehead: :nope:

I feel so sad and down right now

I wonder if Ashley Cheng has read this thread :lmao:

No its not confirmed

Oh how someone who has been here for so long can be so blind... I don't understand it.

Am on my phone right so cant post a link, but go on the new topic bone armor, u will see different type of armor also on the thread is a old khajit picture of a khajit wearin upper body armor but no greaves plus some head wear.... People need to stop getting worked up on speculation...

so would I

I don't know who Oblivion was too complicated for that Bethesda is marketing to. :shrug:

but i think there is hope, Vsions did say not to assume, so im guessing thats there Bethesda response, kinda like how they stepped in about page 48 of the GI article being a screenshot or not.

Also, Theres http://i.imgur.com/UzGEE.jpg and http://i.imgur.com/MNsXV.jpg and im pretty sure they show separate greaves and cuirass, unless most of the greaves are skirts.

EDIT: knight ifrit, i got your khajiit link, but haven't seen the bone armor yet....and ya, people get a little worked on these forums

Now we know that Skyrim has Fallout style hair under helmets, we also know headbands are confirmed, headbands does not affect hair, helmets removes the upper part of the hair, this is pretty much Fallout 3 system, making it more probably that we get extra slots as it’s part of the package.
This give us, hair (oblivion style helmet, hoods), helmets (hats and smaller helmets), headband.
Beard is also confirmed, this might be the mask/ face slot.

Educated guess is that rings is in probably LeftHand and RightHand even if they had different use in fallout. I guess all other fallout 3 slots is in with the exception of Pipboy, eyeglasses and MouthObject (cigarette)who don’t fit in the setting.

Now two things complicate this, first is tattoos / scar / paint they will probably be separate slots, and can probably be used for other things, we don’t know how many we get, one will only allow one decoration.
Now add the armor, the number of variations points to multiple pieces as I wrote in the previous post. The lady with the bone pauldrons over leather armor indicate this as the combination don’t make much sense.

To all of those who are saying that the removal of greaves as a separate armor slot is bethesda "dumbing down" the game - how does that make any sense, whatsoever? How does merging greaves and cuirass make the game "dumbed down"? Someone that isn't smart enough to figure out a separate chest piece and legs piece does not have the capacity to play an elder scrolls game at all.

Secondly, how does the merging fit into the "its the consoles' fault" theory? What aspect of a console's limitations would make Bethesda merge the cuirass and greaves?

The average gamer, regardless of which platform they play the game on, would have no trouble with separate armor pieces.

The only reason, im my opinion, for them to merge the cuirass and greaves slots is to make the smithing process work better.

I doubt that the slots have been combined, but even if they have been, what is the huge deal? How does ONE less armor slot take away from the game at all? Is it really that big of a dissapointment that you can't use iron greaves with a steel cuirass? Sure, it takes out a SLIGHT part of customizing how your character looks (very slight), but why does that even matter so much? In my opinion, the merging could even make the game slightly better. I would prefer my armored greaves to match with my cuirass, it doesn't make much sense to be wearing leather greaves with a cuirass that is made from a completely different material (i.e. steel).

Well, that's a good sign.