It was me saying yeah I suppose you could be right without saying yeah I suppose you could be right. =_= Why are you making this hard for me? =p

Edit: I'm just mad because one point that was constantly brought up about oblivion was that we missed having loads of guilds and factions from morrowind and I thought they wouldn't do it again.
But yeah I suppose you could be right.

It means less character customisation, not less depth of game. Fallout 3 has three wearable slots, BGS's previous game Oblivion has eight plus shield. Does this mean Fallout 3 has less depth than Oblivion?

Note it’s a pretty high probability we get more slots, it appears that Skyrim uses Fallout 3 system for headgear. You can have hair under helmets unlike Oblivion and headbands who keeps the hair.
Fallout 3 had actually more slots than Oblivion even if armor was just armor and helmet.
Fallout 3 had multiple neck slots, face, eyes, ear and nose ring slots. And three extra slots for moders.

Well, I do love wearing a skirt with my plated chest armor

Not trying to. :thumbsup:

I just want to point out that we have nothing to worry about without proper info. And I happen to trust vsions personally, because he's been great to the community so far, and has contributed greatly to the game we're all talking about constantly.

For some reason, I thought the two were closely related.



Let me clarify. The overall depth of the game does not hinge on this one issue, it's just one of many variables. Regarding aesthetic character customization, Fallout 3 did have less depth than Oblivion.

So you don't think that maybe he is just trying to comfort us?

Is it really that big of a deal?

yep exactly!

although he seems to enjoy teasing us :flame:

No but it's something to bicker over. If he answered the question probably we wouldn't have to spam the forums with questions like this.

yes

When concerning a specific topic if someone says "don't jump to conclusions" it usually means you've already jumped to the wrong ones.

And yet, there's so much evidence in favor of merged armour.

Ah, thank you <3

This is not what I was talking about earlier just something I was looking at now. Do you think this armour would come with one pauldron attached automatically? In my opinion that would be a bit weird for armour.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/hX524.jpg[/img]

I think that is pretty obvious then you see the number of armor variations we have seen to now. Last picture was a lady in a fancy leather armor with bone pauldrons. Yes It’s a totally mishmash.

It’s so many variations I start to doubt each variation is a full 3d model, but rather put together in the editor. And the smiting interface :celebration: :celebration: :celebration: , the reason to not have separate pauldrons and greaves is that many armors and pauldrons would clip terrible The iron pauldrons and the fur loincloth the hero is using clip on the elven armor. By putting this in the smiting interface (yourself or a smith) they get away with the clipping.
Yes the benefit of the editor is that you can make combinations who is illegal like adding the bone pauldrons to a fancy dress

Regardless, Vsions would not have commented if it were true.

Sounds plausible. Yeah I'm gonna go with this.

Isn't he the same guy that said the fans would "totatly be down" for generic looking magic items when Oblivion was being developed?

Nice I’m not the only one

Weightless carrot sounds like the ultimate diet food, wonder if weightless chocolate is in the game.

Likely Set-up:
Boots
Gauntlets
Helmet
Greaves/Cuirass/Pauldrons
Rings (2)
Amulets/Necklaces

So, all we really lost was greaves? While I liked mixing and matching greaves, I could live without them. (If we even did lose them. Judging by that comment from vsions, we'll likely not lose that slot or have more slots consolidated in different areas and ways)

Nope. Why would he waste his time doing that? Especially since he's not even a community manager, mod, or PR person. He simply builds the characters in the game, does the artwork, enjoys his job, and happens to get on the forums to laugh at our ridiculous complaints, speculations, and worries during his lunch break and before he goes home for the day. And he posts here when he sees intelligent observations being made about info, screens, and vids that have been released. Examples include his part in the discussion of the "Falmer" pics, as well as confirmation about the screens shown so far, as well as his mentioning of the armor on this thread. There are more times I'm not remembering, but you get the point.

Also, think about this: Why would he post something like that in a thread about a coworker (Ashley Cheng) in an effort to contradict or clarify on what Cheng said, unless it was true? Why would he purposely imply that the OP's speculation is wrong, if it was in fact right? Why take the time to say anything to a bunch of angry forum-goers, unless he has good news to share with us?

Just saying, I don't think it's reasonable to conclude that the employees of BGS that talk with us on this forum ON THEIR OWN TIME would feel the need to say anything misleading. There is more evidence and logical reasoning saying he is right, than that which says we're being lied to by an evil corporate marketing campaign. :thumbsup:

EDIT: Worm has it right above me. You don't tell someone to "not jump to conclusions" unless they're jumping to the wrong ones. Especially in this instance where he happens to be the authority on the subject, and we represent the uninformed masses.

and why is that?

I keep seeing different pauldrons I really think they've made a return in place of greaves. You're right though I don't care if we lost the greaves I was thinking it was all the main things shoved into one armour.

Personally mixing and matching greaves and cuirasses wasn't something i spent a lot of time doing in the previous games, so i don't really care if they merged a few piece what i would like to see is greater variation between the armor worn by men and women because surely they would be different right?
EDIT:
Also this might clear things up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izIKymAODt4&NR=1 if you pause at 0:47 or 0:48 you can see what the armour looks like another thing i noticed is they've split robes up from what i can see anyway.

From what I have seen of the armor, it looks good to me. I am going to take vsions advice, and not jump to conclusions, bur rather, wait for the facts.

For those who do not know http://www.uesp.net/wiki/General:Fishy_Stick

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