Pretend for a moment that it is November 11th, 2011, and Skyrim has been released. Against all expectations, Bethesda programmed in everything that the community wanted. They would not stop until everyone got their way with the game. In a press release early November, they confirmed a list of features that players could toggle.

With joy, you get the game for your respective systems, load it up, and start a new game. And, just as the community wanted, http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv175/Proditus/Unnecessary.jpg. Now everyone gets their way.

And now, just wait 15 years for it to be bug free.

This is just to prove a point that there are things called "unrealistic expectations". A part of this fact is that you can't have everything your way. And sure, perhaps you can get cancer and make a last request to Bethesda to add your favorite feature into the game, but thousands of other players aren't happy with your suggestion and they don't get theirs either. Unrealistic expectations take a good game and make it bad with no effort on the part of the developers. For one moment, I ask that people cease to be pessimistic. On these boards, everyone seems so angry with the small amount of information we have. Quite frankly, before the VGA ceremony and unveiling of the game, people desperately wanted the next Elder Scrolls game. Damn the content, we said. As long as it said Elder Scrolls V, we were satisfied, right? I think the community from 3 months ago would be disappointed if they saw us now.

Now, next time I see someone make a comment of "It should be a toggleable option", "I refuse to play if this isn't in the game", or "Without this feature, you're just appealing to the casuals" please try to comprehend, for just a second, how valued your demands are compared to everyone else. And for a second second (huh, I see wut I did thur), think about how much information you actually know and reasons why you shouldn't base decisions on assumptions. My last request is that you go easier on flame debates, including in this thread if you are so tempted to retort. I simply want people to think before their expectations overwhelm their better judgment.

If everyone got everything they wanted in the game, it'd be a piece of [censored].

Then the game is a lie because its IMPOSSIBLE or they have a time machine.


THIS!

HOLY [censored]. Its so big,its like a [censored] bible passage.

Then we would get Morrowind 2.0



That is a moderately sized first post actually...

That picture is INSANE.

Everything you said is one-hundred percent true.

Bravo Proditus.

I hope you are aware of the tons of sarcarstic comments on specualation on this forum, if they took listened to it and took it seriously. Then Skyrim would be a million times more chaotic than Sheogorath's realm.

Hehe, I actually read through the entire list in the pic. Awesomeness! Last one is giggle worthy. ^_^

We'd have the worst game in the universe of gaming.



With guns, cars, VATS system and 25 new races.

Very nice post Proditus. I think I'll save that screenshot.
I know I personally get a bit irritated whenever something is suggesting something "as a toggable option". Especially in polls.

This can't be right, You forgot a toggle for the toggle system :biggrin:

HAHA Love the pic.
But accually everything you said was true. People on these forums seem so deppressed it just make it kinda droomy and sad. C'mon peeps it's Skyrim! The game we've all been waiting for!

I've answered your pic. Paint ftw

http://img52.imageshack.us/i/answersq.png/

Ah, how could I forget? It's all ruined then.

"ye and Todd said to pete we must ignore the forums for they know not what they ask for"

I choose yes to all. No to the joke options. For the conflicting options I chose yes to the obvious choice.

Game comes out. Game pones. You play game. You admit it. Thread gets laughed at. Thread fails.

I like how it said "page 1 of 50"!

HA! Nice one. I honour your patience to even look at that list for more than three seconds.

It reminds me a little of the menu from Heroes 3: Wake of Gods. Of course that's a mod so they can get away with that. :laugh:

I think "toggleable option" is mostly just to be diplomatic - like saying "let's agree to disagree".


What's with the blocks between the blocks. Oh, great idea: let's make every of these options a slider instead of an off/on choice for additional customization!

Proditus lol nice work amen brother

You'd think that many of these choices are obvious, but quite a number of people will dismiss many of those options because they feel the game is too "casual". That's one word I really can't stand. I don't think it means what people think it means. But that's a discussion for another place

The sadder thing is that so many things on that list are inconsequential, yet people will refuse to buy the game because something like nudity isn't included. People won't buy the game because there are children, and special rules for the children could ruin the experience. Or that being the hero is bad, because it means that there must be a single ending to the storyline unless they want to make another Dragon Break. Everything on that list has, at one point or another, been a topic of discussion on these forums, and for nearly all of them there were groups for it as well as against it. To make everyone happy, of course, it must be an option to be toggled. Hence, all those options.

holy that's a big list.... what.... look in the top right hand corner.... page 1 of 50?!?!??!?!?!?! :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh:

We needed some humor around here! :goodjob:

Yeah. I agree. It would svck. Not everybody can have their way.