So there's four main endings for Fallout New Vegas.
Which of the four endings should be used as a canon/be put as the best ending.
My personal opinion is that either the Mr.House canon should be the one to follow or the NCR.

Reason being that if they followed the Yes Man one, the courier would have to have a name/race/decided personality (good/bad/neutral). Which would be a bit wrong because the courier is played by you which means there's alot of different types of couriers out there.

I don't think Caesars Legion have any future with what they're trying to accomplish. Marcus said that people followed Caesar, not his beliefs and that once Caesar is gone the Legion would crumble and fall. Second of all Caesar is the strategic mastermind behind the Legion, sure the Legate is a great warrior, but I don't think he's much of a tactician. He would have a Josef Stalin mentality like "not one step backwards" which could lead to heavy losses. And if their slaves outnumbered them due to heavy losses, they would do an uprise against them.

Reason why the NCR should win is because they're so big, wealthy and have a lot of support from people. Their only obstacle to great power is the Brotherhood of Steel, because any wasteland tribe stand no chance, but in Vegas the Brotherhood isn't much of an opponent compared to how strong they were in Fallout 3. The NCR's problem however is how many recruits they have and the recruits requires equipment which they cannot get also they're untrained and can lose battles against more trained soldiers for example Great Khans.

However, House is a person that will live for a long time also his securitron army is REALLY strong and will also live forever. Mr.House has also lived for a very long time and knows many secrets of the Mojave which will come in handy for him. Plus he never stomps over people like the Legion and the NCR, sure he is in control of them, but he doesn't tell them what's right or wrong ( as long as thet don't try to oppose him). So he's experienced, charismatic, smart, will live for a long time and have a great army which will also be there forever.

So people, that was my opinions on the matter, what do you think?

We need less 'Happy-Good' endings so I would either say Legion or Yes Man.

I believe that House should win, why? Well because if the NCR and Legion lose, they don't really lose like House do they? They both just fall back to their massive nations and following House's campaign even results in the leader of eitherside staying alive; so I believe that House should win just so we may hear from him again later... and so that the Boomers aren't seriously threatened, those guys are brilliant.

I'd go with Mr. House.

I think the NCR was well handled in FONV and I'd like to see them continue struggling with expansion and bureaucracy. However I think giving them New Vegas would make the area less interesting, not moreso. Allowing Mr. House to stay keeps an interesting character, makes him a regional power, and allows the NCR to maintain some presence providing they're willing to deal with him - that sounds better than just putting them in charge.

Exploring the Legion would be interesting but as with the NCR this can be done without making this outcome the canonical one. In fact I think having the Legion rebuffed would set up a far better situation than continued victories. The Legion lost its momentum once but was able to hold its ground, whether it can survive after this latest defeat raises a lot of questions and will no doubt introduce a lot of internal turmoil.

Going with YesMan isn't impossible but given the greater variation with this ending it makes it unlikely that we'd hear much about the region. Regardless of the canonical ending I don't expect to visit New Vegas again but the other endings would result in more concrete changes to the surrounding regions - YesMan is too much of a wild card so the affect is likely to be diminished.

Yeah, I agree. Mr..House is a really interesting character.

Being on the subject and just in-case anyone doesn't know the canon Vault Dweller to Fallout 1,

The Vault Dweller was a male and judging from appearance on a screenshot from that of which shall not be spoken, it would appear Albert Cole was to be the intended pre-set.

Mr House because he is the only one who knows whats going on. He has plans such as taking the human race to another civilized planet.

Legion, because it leads to an even bigger war in the future.

Plus, its about time that the 'bad' ending is canon for once. FO1 & 2 both had the Vault Dweller and the Chosen one as morally good in canon. There's no canon for FO3 as yet, but you can be damn sure it'll be the good ending, considering how little poisoning the purifier affects the Wasteland in Broken steel.

For the sake of just having it in the records, poobably Mr/ House. The dam was his to begin with.. , and like others said, the others factions dont really lose all. just the battle for the Dam.


But for next game sake, im not sure how much it will effect.. It would really depend on where they decide to do locations for following fallout games, and if we are considering NV as an option for a sequel.
If its not optioned directly as a sequel, but is referenced in dialogue and terminal entries, it could be ambiguous enough to not need a definative "winner"

I went with NCR, because they r the most logical choice for writers IMO out of the ending choices. I killed house every time, because he always wants me to kill people for him that never tried to kill me. Plus his over all plan is evil and greedy. That whole area is better off under NCR rule. House talks about saving mankind but never sells me on it. I think all would do is park his 400 securitrons around NV and f everyone else. Now NCR is saving mankind they r in other places. House should have worked with the NCR not against them. He just wanted their money. The Legion was soooooo weak they couldn t have beat the NCR so no way they could have Vegas.

I'd choose the Legion because it's more controversial than the others, and thus would have the biggest (clearest could be a better choice of word) impact.

fo3 ending already is canon IMO . fev wasnt potent enough to do much. Enclave lost BOS is in charge.

I don't really care as long as the next West Coast game includes Legion again. (Fallout: Arizona)
Yes Man is something I'm against though, we've already had the anarchic wasteland, we don't need more of it.

Mr. House.

Because his presence in the Mojave as King of Vegas with a large robot army makes for the possibilty for a new and interesting faction. Its also a better development (in my opinon) than just "Oh, the NCR held the place" or "Oh the Legion captured the place", instead its "Oh. Mr. House cunningly pulled the rug out from under both of them and activated his long-dormant securitron army and now rules the place".

Plus he's House, he has to win.

Caesar's Legion, they're the most controversial and the most "evil" of all three factions. We need more war, and more conflict to tilt the world on it's head and prevent the boring stabilization we've gotten with the NCR. House claims the Vegas region for himself... what fun is that? A police state controlled by an army of securitrons. No thank you.

Caesar may be holding the Legion together and he may be the genius behind their success, but a group like that can't be run simply by one man, he has capable officers and capable staff. When Julius Caesar was assassinated did Rome fall apart? No.

House can eat dirt and the NCR can chomp a shovel. Or. y'know... they can be crucified.

I have a specific one... I think the Independant ending with the Courier and Yes Man controlling New Vegas should be canon, but House is still alive as the Courier's advisor, so he's still realizing his vision but his not in charge of it.

House, really is the best choice for everyone. NCR get a much needed kick to the nose that will get them to clean up there leadership and get some better people in there. Legion retreats leaving the Mojave alone for years to come. House rebuilds the area further increasing the prosperity of the region. No one is "destroyed" and everyone benefits in some way. Well ok the BoS in the area suffer but they are others around.

So with house you get:

1: NCR better off in the long run
2: The mojave improves by leaps and bounds, due to House's genius
3: Legion is set back and won't be a threat for years to come as in fighting to get the next leader will most likely result from the deaths of the top people.

NCR :fallout:

NCR but only so they can eventually collapse a la Van Buren (well less due to the BOS and more due to a devastating civil war back West). Then for the next Fallout installment in the West we could have a rump NCR government based in New Vegas that is cut off from home, demoralized and deeply divided between New Vegas locals who do most of the work and California settlers who hold most of the power; the loyalist remnants of the Legion who still hold most of Arizona but have been weakened by infighting and NCR supported slave revolts; several independent legionary states formed by Legion exiles throughout Utah; New Mexico and Colorado, a growing Mormon nation which is expanding primarily through peaceful commerce and missionary work (but is much more insidious than they pretend) the Great Khans pushing south from their new empire in Wyoming and at least one original Midwestern faction to shake things up.

Trouble with the House victory is while the character is interesting what real impact is he going to have beyond the Mojave if he wins beyond forcing both the Legion and the NCR to retreat and reform and where's the fun in that?

The impact would be that Vegas grows in power in the Mojave, the other powers slink off back to the homes and clean house. So You end up with each "power" better off and still active. For a continued story.

I think that Caesar dies after the battle of Hoover Dam (if you don't side with the Legion).
Because General Oliver mentiones something about "Ceasar on the cross".

And I like the civil war idea.An idea to that would be a communistic rebellion. A tribe that is dedicated to communism, because they found books about it or something. And then they feel NCR is being an imperialistic republic which is against what they stand for and they form a rebellion against it
Because both theEnclave and the NCR builds on the Republican Party.
Would be cool to see some communism in Fallout

But the NCR and Legion are already too powerful for the setting. The last thing they need is to be reformed and strengthened. The NCR in particularly is already getting to the point where it's growing size, wealth, and technological level are going to begin to interfere with the barren wasteland concept and if the Legion ends up an unchallenged superstate with tens of thousands of loyal legionnaires in the Midwest the only way to present a real obstacle to them is to introduce another superstate to challenge them. That's not interesting IMO.

Best route is to smash the status quo in New Vegas and give every faction a bloody nose to open up the setting again like in Van Buren creating new twists on old factions and introducing new original creations that don't have to be massive superstates to realistically compete with them.

This.

I hate House.

I terminate him with extreme prejudice every playthrough. Sometimes I do it, and then I load, so I can do it over and over again.

Well NCR could end up much weakened from there house cleaning, might even have some deserters from the member listings. Same deal with Legion, they might have to re conquer the tribes again. either way they would be out of action for a long time. While house is really only concerned with the area immediately surrounding him and isn't interested in building up a emipre/state.

That made me laugh.