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What's causing this?

Post » Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:26 am

Hi! Recently I got a new computer and got the reignition to play Oblivion again!

However I've run into a problem with modded Oblivion. Here's what it looks like:

http://s622.photobucket.com/albums/tt306/atibingler/?action=view¤t=ScreenShot16-1.jpg&newest=1

As you can see the hand is a ghost-hand that us attached to nothing. Basically the same thing happens when drawig a bow, hitting with a blade, punching with fists etc. I wonder what mod's causing this. Possibly a conflict? Now, I've searched for an answer here and run the OBMM Conflict Detector but I keep getting errors. I hate doing this kind of threads with just one problem to solve. But I really hope an experienced modder can help me with this. Here's another example..

http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/tt306/atibingler/ScreenShot7-1.jpg

Again I've marked the problem area with a red circle. Here's my load order:

Oblivion.esm
MiddleEarth.esm
Jog_X_Mod.esm
All Natural Base.esm
MERP Data.esm
AFC v2 Core.esm
XulEntiusGorge.esp
HorsesTurnFaster.esp
RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp
Inebriation.esp
1662-1.21-Inebriation + Skooma addon-TESSource.esp
Thievery_Normal.esp
CM_Better Wine.esp
RealisticForceHigh.esp
Cyrodilic Brandy.esp
immersive_caves_auto.esp
Lock Bash v99.91.esp
RealisticMagicForceHigh.esp
[GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp
Q - More and Moldy Ingredients v1.1.esp
Xero's Fame Indicator.esp
ImmersiveWait.esp
RAEVWD Cities.esp
Creatures Alive v1.3.esp
RAEVWD Imperial City.esp
Living Economy - Items.esp
Motion Blur English.esp
StealthOverhaul.esp
Crowded Cities 30.esp
Cliff_BetterLetters.esp
thievery.esp
NPCs Alive - Bandits.esp
NPCs Alive - Beggers.esp
NPCs Alive - Goblins.esp
NPCs Alive - Orges.esp
NPCs Alive - Faregyll Inn.esp
NPCs Alive - Imperial Legion Foresters.esp
NPCs Alive - Imps.esp
WHOOSH.esp
lorecreatures.esp
DexwoodsHideout.esp
QTdof.esp
Cyrodiil Travel Services.esp
bgBalancingEVCore.esp
bgBalancingEVOptionalClasses.esp
Thieves Arsenal.esp
AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
AliveWaters.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
OWE&P.esp
Roleplaying Dialogues.esp
ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp
Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp
Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 DT.esp
Woodsman Armor.esp
Lynges_Thieves_Highway-10256.esp
Cutthroat Merchants.esp
Rainbows.esp
Living Economy - SI.esp
Babarized BrashLeatherArmors.esp
ReneersContainerMod.esp
Get Wet.esp
Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
LoadingScreensAddOn.esp
Ivellon.esp
LoadingScreens.esp
SniperSneakSkillup.esp
xulLushWoodlands.esp
xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp
Crowded Roads Advanced.esp
MIS.esp
MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp
OBSE-Storms & Sound SI.esp
AFC v2 Damage Text.esp
AFC v2 Combat Moves.esp
AFC v2 Locational Damage.esp
SkycaptainsBloodTime.esp
Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
xulFallenleafEverglade.esp
7lbsBedrolls-OBSE.esp
MerchantFriendsBuysStolen.esp
xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp
xulPantherRiver.esp
xulCheydinhalFalls.esp
BulkyOrcs.esp
Symphony of Violence.esp
DungeonsOfIvellon-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
SetsunaDummyTraining.esp
xulCloudtopMountains.esp
Streamline 3.1.esp
Duke Patricks - Fresh Kills Now Alert The NPCs.esp
ORM -Travelers' Cloaks.esp
Shining Creatures.esp
Enhanced Grabbing.esp
Duke Patricks - Near Miss Magic And Arrows Alert The Target.esp
PTLessFallDamage.esp
PTDamageFinal.esp
Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp
RenGuardOverhaul.esp
WindowLightingSystem.esp
All Natural - Real Lights.esp
All Natural.esp
All Natural - SI.esp
Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp
Archery Rebalance.esp
Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer.esp


Thanks for them who bother helping me!
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Nick Jase Mason
 
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Post » Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:11 am

Hi! Recently I got a new computer and got the reignition to play Oblivion again!

However I've run into a problem with modded Oblivion. Here's what it looks like:

http://s622.photobucket.com/albums/tt306/atibingler/?action=view¤t=ScreenShot16-1.jpg&newest=1

As you can see the hand is a ghost-hand that us attached to nothing. Basically the same thing happens when drawig a bow, hitting with a blade, punching with fists etc. I wonder what mod's causing this. Possibly a conflict? Now, I've searched for an answer here and run the OBMM Conflict Detector but I keep getting errors. I hate doing this kind of threads with just one problem to solve. But I really hope an experienced modder can help me with this. Here's another example..

http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/tt306/atibingler/ScreenShot7-1.jpg

Again I've marked the problem area with a red circle. Here's my load order:

Thanks for them who bother helping me!


Are you changing the FOV to 90+? I get something like that with FOV at 90, guess it gets worse the higher it is set.

Also, your load order is off - I'd suggest using BOSS to sort it out.
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Shianne Donato
 
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Post » Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:07 am

Yep. From my experience, increasing FOV past 80 gradually increases this kind of clipping. Plus you're playing on a widescreen monitor, which adds to this "effect". I see only two solutions: either go back to <80 FOV or live with this issues (Oblivion's default is 75). I've settled with 85 (5:4 monitor).

And most probable cause for this is Streamline. Check it's INI file and tweak it.
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Post » Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:22 am

Before you give up on this, I have an alternative solution (if you don't mind some freaky looking menus).

Set "fNearDistance=0.0001" in the Oblivion.ini. That setting controls how close to the camera things are drawn. It defaults to ten, which leaves a huge gap like you're experiencing. Setting it to 0.0001 will pretty much eliminate the gap in almost all situations (still might see a bit of it while swimming or with really odd animations).

It does mess up your menus though, but only the main menus and their sub-menus. Highlight boxes will be half-drawn and text is missing. Doesn't bother me personally, but if it bugs you it's possible to increase the number enough to avoid the menu problems and still be way below the normal setting of ten.
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Post » Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:08 pm

Yep. From my experience, increasing FOV past 80 gradually increases this kind of clipping. Plus you're playing on a widescreen monitor, which adds to this "effect". I see only two solutions: either go back to <80 FOV or live with this issues (Oblivion's default is 75). I've settled with 85 (5:4 monitor).

And most probable cause for this is Streamline. Check it's INI file and tweak it.

I'm sorry guys, what's FOV? I feel so dumb :hehe:
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Post » Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:50 am

I'm sorry guys, what's FOV? I feel so dumb :hehe:


M'aiq knows much. FOV stands for Field of View. The broader your field of view, the more you can see. And the stranger your eyeballs become.
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Richard
 
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Post » Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:35 am

I'm sorry guys, what's FOV? I feel so dumb :hehe:

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/screenshots/medium/2009/11/Modern-Warfare-2-FOV-Tuning-01.jpg

Bloody Khajiit :D
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Post » Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:36 am

I'm sorry guys, what's FOV? I feel so dumb :hehe:


What's already said. Streamline has a Streamview feature with which you can change the Field of View (FOV). It's 75 at default. I'm playing at 90 - and get slight gaps when looking straight down with drawn weapons.
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Post » Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:00 am

Thanks people, problem solved! :goodjob:
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