What Country Should FO4 Be In?

Post » Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:47 am

It has to stay in the US. That is only right. This is where it began. It wouldnt be the same without it being here. But where? The southeast with all the swamps, rivers, wildlife, would be a great possiblity. Otherwise , I read someone elses reply, stating they would like to see the Desert. That would be a great idea as well.
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Post » Sun Oct 10, 2010 1:58 pm

New York, USA.
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Post » Sun Oct 10, 2010 1:41 pm

Yeah, I think the problem is that this thread is titled where should Fallout 4, be - and not "where would be a neat location for a Fallout side project," or "- another Fallout game." The fact is that the main franchise is based in large part on a certain sense of retro Americana. Hence why people are saying that the main series should continue to be located in the US.

Any number of other neat places exist that would be very interesting to explore within the context of the Fallout universe; each with their own unique cultural background and perspective. I think there's plenty of room for that with something like the upcoming New Vegas - ie, a spin-off. If successful enuogh, a Fallout spin-off set in another country could form the foundation of it's own ongoing series, where you explore the consequences of the end of the world from a different cultural perspective.

But anyway, just because I might say that Fallout 4, specifically, I would rather have remain within the US, doesn't mean that I don't think there'd be any merit to having any sort of Fallout game take place somewhere outside of the States.
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Post » Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:37 am

But anyway, just because I might say that Fallout 4, specifically, I would rather have remain within the US, doesn't mean that I don't think there'd be any merit to having any sort of Fallout game take place somewhere outside of the States.


If you don't mind ditching the entire vibe, then ok. If you want to have an PA RPG with alternate backgrounds then I would certainly be interested in that, but again, It can't include the Fallout backstory.
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Post » Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:51 pm

If you don't mind ditching the entire vibe, then ok. If you want to have an PA RPG with alternate backgrounds then I would certainly be interested in that, but again, It can't include the Fallout backstory.

The way I see it, it's perfectly okay for a spin-off to risk "losing the vibe", because it is ultimately inconsequential to the core series, just liek BoS was inconsequential. If done well and consistently spin-offs can be a great way to expand upon the backstory and setting, and show the universe from a different standpoint, without risking damaging the main serise in any way. If it stinks, it will just be swiped under the rug and forgotten.
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Post » Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:46 am

The way I see it, it's perfectly okay for a spin-off to risk "losing the vibe", because it is ultimately inconsequential to the core series, just liek BoS was inconsequential. If done well and consistently spin-offs can be a great way to expand upon the backstory and setting, and show the universe from a different standpoint, without risking damaging the main serise in any way. If it stinks, it will just be swiped under the rug and forgotten.


I think the core vibe IS the series. Without it, you have a very generic game.
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Post » Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:08 pm

I... I'm going to have to agree with Kjarista on this one.

Setting a Fallout game outside of America would be like setting a Star Wars movie outside of the Star Wars galaxy. America is the Fallout setting; it's the Star Wars galaxy of Fallout, it's the Middle-Earth of Fallout. There's obviously other real life countries besides America in the Fallout world just like there's other galaxies in the Star Wars world, and other continents besides Middle-Earth are mentioned in the works concerning Tolkien's fantasy world. No one cares about these other places though since the focus is on the Star Wars galaxy and Middle-Earth respectively; the setting is tailored around those places. Other galaxies and regions only exist as flavor material.

Fallout has the misfortune of being set in the "real world", and this leads to people wanting to see their countries in the games. Fallout is just like Star Wars or Tolkien's fantasy novels here though. You've got the focus of the story which is America, and the entire setting is built around that focus. A lot of the "vibe" as Kjarista put it would be lost completely if you set it anywhere else. Could you set a Fallout game in another place like England, Japan or Australia? Sure. Should you? No. Those places are "outside of the setting" so to speak, and their only purpose in the Fallout world is as flavor material. We could briefly visit another country in a future game, but that's not likely seeing as how intercontinental travel is much more difficult in a post-apocalyptic world.
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Post » Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:17 am

there would be different places to have the events..how about we go up to new york to see food riots crushed by T51b soldiers? or how about we go to the commonwealth of maryland?

or one of the many commonwealths of america: http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/File:Fo_General_US_Commonwealths_Rev.png

but i want y'all to take a look at this pic: http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/File:FoT_Gas_Prices.png how about that about 1200 buck a gallon gas.

although i do think the west would be an excellent place, escpecially considering that the grand canyon, as beautiful as it is, was mined for coal, and torn apart.
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Post » Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:19 am

Hi

I say Portugal lol.
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Post » Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:57 am

Outback, Australia :goodjob:
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Post » Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:37 am

I think you could safely put a Fallout spin-off in another country without losing everything that makes the franchise unique. Take England, for example - I'd imagine their nostalgia for the 1940's - '50's would be slightly different than those of us in America. But would still have a lot in common, stylistically. I'd imagine that if you took a future England that was going through it's own retro stylings, and then blew it up - that it would still be instantly recognizable as a Fallout game of some sort. A player might look at it and go "hey, this looks like a spin-off of the series; because something's not quite right," but I'd imagine that with some talented art direction you could come up with something that's both relevant to the culture of the country you're setting the game in, and is instantly recognizable as a Fallout game, as well.

You wouldn't want to be re-using all of the same iconic elements from the core series - Vaults, Supermutants, Enclave, etc (because otherwise what's the point?) But there's also no reason that other countries wouldn't have their own ways of surviving the war, or their own versions of a Vault of some sort. And surely there's enough imaginative people out there to come up with some different enemies, that are also relevant to the culture of the country they're setting the game in.

I still stand by my original position. I wouldn't particularly care to see the core series venturing into other uncharted lands. But I could still see some merit in having a series of spin-offs that take place around the world, and exploring the various permutations possible within the core aesthetic of Fallout. (Heck, it might even make kind of a neat episodic sort of game, where you play as some sort of globetrotting post-apocalyptic explorer; and each "episode" brings you to another country.) I'm not going to get up in arms and demand that someone do something like that, but I wouldn't cry foul if someone decided to start making spin-offs of that sort, either.
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Post » Sun Oct 10, 2010 7:22 am

Well, although I'm european, I can't think of Fallout being set anywhere else than USA. Although it would be nice to have some information how does it look in other countries, i.e China (millions of ghouls?), or how did the Resource Wars end. Maybe some military base still operational for some time after the bombs fell and had satellite link with the rest of the world. Even an OP.A-like DLC set during Resource Wars would be cool. But the main story remains in the United States.

Considering the threat of using nukes, even not having Vault Tec, other countries surely had some fallout shelters, just not of one standard.
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Post » Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:12 pm

It should never be considered taking place outside US of A. Just wouldn't feel right. It was to be a retro-future image of American '50s and it's best that it stays that way.
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Post » Sun Oct 10, 2010 1:15 pm

England would be a good place IMO, if it sticks to the US, New York would be a fun place.
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Post » Sun Oct 10, 2010 7:52 am

Yeah New York would be cool. Or maybe Florida.
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Post » Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:28 pm

They tried East Coast and we all know how it played out for them. Maybe Arizona or Texas perhaps?
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Post » Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:08 am

Ever since playing "The Replicated Man" mission and hearing about the Commonwealth and the Institute and their astonishing technological achievements (sentient artificial life), I've wanted the next game OR even just a piece of DLC to feature this area.

Other places I'd like:

New York City .... the different atmospheres of different post-apocalyptic boroughs. Perhaps the boroughs are internally unified but fight amongs each other .. Manhattan at war with Brooklyn over resources etc .... secret raids into rival boroughs ... the NYC subway to explore ... skyscraqers, monuments, apartments ... the possibilities are endless.

Tokyo ... for much the same reasons

Los Angeles ... for the sheer sprawing madness of it all.

One of my favourite ideas: Rome. Imagine all the famous landmarks and architecture, half-destroyed .... the ruins of the Coloseum ... descending into the catacombs which are inhabited by mutant nasties. Hiding from our enemies in the Roman Forum.

Or ... turn the camera around and look at it from China's point of view. Surely the US managed to fire a few nukes at China before getting hit by China themselves?? Imagine a ruined Beijing with the Forbidden City to explore. Towering mountains, paddy fields, small villages. Mutated tigers!!!!!!!!!! Communist propaganda everywhere, to mirror the capitalist propaganda in Fallout 3. Survivors wondering if the US is just a myth, just like a NPC wonders about China in Fallout 3. :coolvaultboy:

Maybe I've thought too much about this.
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Post » Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:53 pm

I would prefer it to NOT be in any city. Depicting a small part of city ruin would be fine, but I'd like to see a more rural/small towns setting
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Post » Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:49 am

Like most others, it wouldn't be Fallout if it weren't in the US.

Anyway, I vote for New York, mostly for what other people said. It could be like the 5 boroughs are territorys controlled by different factions (Brooklyn is ghouls, The Bronx would be Raiders, Manhattan would be BoS, etc)

Think of all the cool DLC there could be for it.

There could be one where you travel down the Hudson to the West Point Military Academy! It could be called "The Academy" (Hey, MIT gets to be called the "Intistute")
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Post » Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:19 am

Like most others, it wouldn't be Fallout if it weren't in the US.

Anyway, I vote for New York, mostly for what other people said. It could be like the 5 boroughs are territorys controlled by different factions (Brooklyn is ghouls, The Bronx would be Raiders, Manhattan would be BoS, etc)

Think of all the cool DLC there could be for it.

There could be one where you travel down the Hudson to the West Point Military Academy! It could be called "The Academy" (Hey, MIT gets to be called the "Intistute")

IMO New York is just waaaay overused. It has already been destroyed again and again, and I?m really not interested in seeing it yet another time. Some city like say Seattle or Boston would be much more interesting.
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Post » Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:47 am

AFRICAAAAAAAAAAA!

gotta agree with you Ms Palin.
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Post » Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:16 am

America. Chicago.
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Post » Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:52 am

IMO New York is just waaaay overused. It has already been destroyed again and again, and I?m really not interested in seeing it yet another time. Some city like say Seattle or Boston would be much more interesting.


Well, even considering New York isn't shown in the game, it's still FLAT like a pancake after a rain of nukes in the Fallout world... so what's the difference if it's shown or not =P?
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Post » Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:15 pm

i think it should be in america but all of america i mean every were make the game epic put like 1 car in it like you get a suptup mustang and you travel around the united states
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Post » Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:33 am

i think it should be in america but all of america i mean every were make the game epic put like 1 car in it like you get a suptup mustang and you travel around the united states


If it was like that, we'ed have to wait 100 years for Fallout 4 (We'ed already be waiting 50 years if they included all of Tamriel in Elder Scrolls 5)
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