Well,
Bethesda, Obsidian

I hate to break it to you, but I am one of the many PS3 gamers who finds it very hard to try to play this game, I was so happy when I read that the patch is available so I log on my PS3 and put in the game and got the update patch.

But as soon as I start running around I noticed the game still has some of the screen lag where it freezes every 15 to 30 steps and then it locked on me sooner. So I rebooted my PS3 and it still got laggy and screen is still choppy every 10 seconds or so but in a V.A.T.S. attack against giant mantises the game kind of "half" frozed on me. What happened it seems the cinematic battle of V.A.T.S. was coming to end but the mantis still lived but the action part frozed but I could still see activity for example the game let me know my sunset soda effect wore off and I could still here the music.

So after noticing 4 usual malfunctions and glitches in the game I must ask:

What was this "200 repairs" this patch was supposed to fix?

If an Obsidian and Bethesda developer reads this, please focus on something to make this game play right for us PS3 gamers.

I hope we get good news if the game will still be worked on and fixed because I so want to continue playing but the frequent locks and screen freezes makes it difficult and is very frustrating.

don't forget about xbox. i'm hitting some kind of glitch, major or minor, every time i sit down to play this game. lag, sudden hostility from friendly factions that are NOT armor or action related, and speaking of v.a.t.s.: yesterday i used v.a.t.s. with my powerfist and my character was inside of a rock all of a sudden, unable to reach his target. i sat in horror as my character ran toward the enemy, yet remained stationary, never reaching his destination and forcing me to backtrack for the 232,572,454th time. what would be great is if the game kept like the 3 most recent auto saves instead of just one. $60? really?

glitches since my last post a few minutes ago:
1. brotherhood scribe writing on an invisible chalkboard
2. brotherhood soldier walking down a hallway with his head on sideways.
3. ANOTHER corrupted save as i exited brotherhood base.

thanks fallout crew! enjoy my $60! i know i won't! ever again!

I'm a PS3 user and I haven't experienced all of these glitches. I get the occasional pause when moving quickly while it seems to be loading, and it has frozen on me twice (both times my PS3 had been on for a while). I haven't had any major issues with VATS or the pip-boy light (I leave the radio off). If you're truly interested in having them investigating these issues, please provide more information... i.e. what type of PS3/XBox you have, or if you're on a PC let them know your OS/Video Card/Driver information. This way they can try and reproduce it and then see what's causing it.

I for one am playing on an 80GB PS3 (MotorStorm Bundle) and the game's fine for me.

I guess the thread was moved so developers and Bethesda can't see how the patch for the game did not do anything noticeable for PS3 gamers.

Many say they do not have problems,

But I see enemies seem like they are "swimming" on the ground partially submerged in the ground while running away from attacks.

Oh well,
I guess this is one complaint and concern that no one from Bethesda or Obsidian will see because hiding it in this forum was a bad call. If we can't call out Obsidian on a messed up game then I guess I am stuck with a glitched game.

It fixed two things: Jack & [censored]

Tell me about it

Just that I am curious as to why the mods claim it "fized 200 things wrong with Fallout: NV" and yet the most frustrating glitches are still there.

I can tell from the lack of replies from Bethesda and Obsidian that this problem will go on indefinitely and I guess that is why it was moved here because someone deemed my thread a "tech issue" when really the mod just wanted it out of the way so Bethesda and Obsidian will not see their precious game is still broken.

Seriously mods,
why the hell did you move my thread? so the developers and Bethesda can't see it?

Isn't 1.01 the first released patch? if so it should only be 200+ Quest and Scripting corrections. Which i'm guessing means some quest bugs and spelling correcting.. since I've noticed a lot of weird grammar errors, and it doesn't feel like it's a "roleplay" kind of thing.
it shouldn't really be any major bug fixes.

The problem is that so many different bugs and glitches existed in the game that even with all your feed back they still don't have enough time in the day to fix them all. See this game should of been held back until it could have been tested and fixed. It's not your ps3 trust me on that. I played oblivion on my ps3 recently and that game has way more data processing requirements than fallout does. It does load for a good amount of time but once it has then the game works very well. Now did Oblivion come out riddled with bugs? The answer to that is yes it did. Did it take the developer months to fix it after it's release? yes it did. Did they fix all the bugs even the ones on the GOTY edition? No they did not, however they did get close. So the lesson is wait until the GOTY edition comes out for your system and then wait another week or so looking here on the forum for all the extra bugs that got through. Wait 1 month more for the patch and then if your feeling playing some waste land buy the game. So lets add up the time to buy a game from this developer. 1 year and a few months from the first release date. Also try and get it at a discount because after all you did wait for a whole year for a game that should of been ready a long time ago.

Just think of it like this. These games are Beta games. IGN and all the other reviewers are paid in advertising money to say good things about the games. Go here see whats really happening and then if your ok with it buy it. Or wait for them to release the final version which in their case is the GOTY version.

You guys are my testers by the way. So give them hell, make sure you can reproduce a glitch and then send them the information to the tech page. I hope they sell the title to Rock* but they probably would rather lose money then admit defeat. Anyway just learn from this and wait to buy their games. Remember the reviews will always be high for them. They didn't even mention glitching in the first Fallout 3 game they released. It got like 10/10 and 5/5 and you couldn't even complete the main mission lololo they svck guys...

you imply that it's our fault that the game is unplayable. sorry, but i buy a LOT of games, and i've never had one act this glitchy and unplayable at launch, not even fallout 3. there's no excuse for it.

The patch only helped fixed Quest scripting bugs. It never said anything about freezes and crashes. However, they might try and fix it on the next patch.

For me it only made things worse. Now as soon as I hit the VATS button the game freezes completely. This wasn't even an issue before I downloaded the patch and I feel totally ripped off. I really hope they can get another patch to fix this out, although I really believe it should have never been a problem in the first place.

I have read that there were over 200 fixes, mostly to do with quest bugs. I still have a bug for the Oh My Papa quest. One of the npcs needed to do some things on that quest is missing, and having been there much earlier than necessary, I got a book that is supposed to be used for evidence, but no one gives me any conversation options for it. This quest seems broken in more than one way.

Lagging and freezing is caused by an outdated ENGINE.

You want to know why they didn't make a new engine?

This game is a spin-off.

They aren't going to waste months finding/creating a new engine for a damned spin-off.

I am baginning to think that the devs quickly rushed out a new fallout game to get a quick dollar because their last game was such a big hit. You can even tell how little effort went into making this game because half of the textures and models are recycled especially in the wasteland.

Are you looking for Mellisa?

Yeah. She WAS there a few IRL hours back when

I can't even play the game. I am stuck in Nipton and can't leave. Can't VAST, can't fast travel, can't do anything. I hope someone is pulling an all-nighter to get this fixed. Some people thinks it has to do with downloading the classic pack after you put the game in? My friend didn't get the collectors edition for ps3 and he is having no freezing game problems (just a few bugs). Either way, I hope they fix it soon.

I assume they fixed the Primm Casino Infinite Caps Exploit as well as probably a few similar ones. I know for a fact that they didn't fix the Vault 11 bug though because I went there shortly after downloading the patch and still got "such and such" mission failed (I forget the name) right after the final battle.

One thing that has stopped happening since patch is when I come out of my inventory screen, my gun would auto shoot. It does not do that anymore. Now, i just freeze up all the damn time.

I love the optimism that this will ever make a GOTY edition, im personally waiting for the Fail of The Century Edition myself, where Bethesda pays you to play its abortion of a game.

Yo, I'm putting up with the same frustrating issues with which everyone else has to cope. My game has killscreened at least ten times. I've had to sacrifice a few hours of gameplay more than once because of a buggy quest. Hell, last night I had to spend an hour reading forums trying to find a way to get back into the Lucky 38 once Victor decided to ignore me.

It is without question that these sorts of issues are inexcusable. The fact that the game is large in no way grants Bethesda or Obsidian a "get out of jail free" card. War and Peace is large but it doesn't have a typo every third line because (even if Tolstoy couldn't spell) its publishers hired copy editors to proof the manuscript. Similarly, debugging a video game is not an option. Quality Assurance teams are supposed to do everything in their power to break a game so that programmers can do everything in their power to code an unbreakable game. A normal player playing the game normally should never find himself swimming underneath the terrain or suddenly taking a bullet from a friendly faction. And yet, alas, the game is "so large" that bugs are "inevitable?" I'm sorry if I don't have any sympathy for Bethesda or Obsidian on that point. Then again, they have my money already.

And they have yours too, which brings me to my second point. While you guys are carping at Bethesda and Obsidian because the game is glitchy, these companies have employed people to address the problems and get them fixed. They are trying to remedy the issues, and I'm sure they ultimately will. And they are doing this, in our cases, for free. They already have our money, and they've already suffered losses from people who will refuse to ever buy the game because of its problems. But they not only want to generate future sales, and keep their credibility. They also want us to enjoy what we're doing out there in the Mojave wastes.

That leads me to the final point I want to make. We are having fun or we wouldn't be complaining about when the game is not fun. It's been suggested that this game is a simple cash cow, but we can rule that out. Three reasons jump to mind: 1. We like the game enough to want it to be perfect, and we're willing to write about it in forums because it's not. Clearly New Vegas is immersive enough to frustrate us when that immersion is interrupted by a game crash. 2. The dialog, background, factions, and story arc are compelling and immense. If you're looking to turn quick money, you don't take the time to create anything nearly so complex as the NCR/Legion/Strip tensions. 3. You don't fix cash cows if they're broken. You fix products you care about if they're broken.

In short:
1. Yeah, the game has hundreds of glitches and potentially fatal bugs, but
2. calling Bethesda names and saying the game is unplayable are both foolish, because
3. you spent the time to write a complaint post at Bethesda's website seeking a fix, which means
4. ultimately, you want the game to work, and believe Bethesda will do something about its problems.

I played the original Fallout 3 for countless hours, and did so again when the GotY version got released the following year. Believe me when I say the GotY game did not make things smoother. Far from it.

I just did the Vault 11 Sacrifice Chamber thing and the easy way to level up is not fixed. Went from level 24 to maxing out at 30 in about 2 inutes.

I want to be optimistic about this game because I remember playing Morrowind back in 2002 and it had some god-awful bugs, the main loading screen took 1-2 minutes, and the game crashed at least once every 2-3 hours. What made it worse was I played on the XBOX so there was no way to get any sort of patch. Despite this, it is still one of my favorite games I've ever played.

What's making me lose faith in Obsidian/Bethesda is how in Oblivion the infamous vampire glitch was never fixed, ruining MANY of people's experiences if they played on the PS3. I hate the idea of having to buy a 360 to play a game that's patched better and has exclusive DLCs.