Ok, I didn't mean Game of the Year for awards, but meant for it to become your Game of the Year or your favourite game. Sorry I didn't think it would come out like I meant for awards.

We all know both games will be compared. So what does Fallout 4 need to be Game of the Year over Witcher 3?

For me we don't need awesome graphics but great or good graphics that run very smoothly with no stuttering. I believe this is where the Witcher 3 succeeds. Yes graphics were toned down, but we have good smooth gameplay. I believe the same will be for Fallout 4. Beautiful looking game, but graphics are not the main point.

One thing I am worried about is interior cells. After 20 years of it, I think it's kind of lame now. Clearly Witcher 3 has shown us we don't need interior cells. Mind you we don't have the go from one end of the map to the other end of the map, I guess Witcher 3 is basically just huge interior cells. So it can still be done, walk into a building without needing to have load screens. Also doors we can open and close without worrying about hitting A (or what ever button for your platform choice.)

Choices. We seem to have lots of choice be it through what we see in the HUD or what we can do. The game doesn't feel "dumbed down" for the common gamer. While Fallout 3 and New Vegas are awesome games, I would like to have more options. Let me choose what I want on my HUD. Let me choose what is displayed and what is not displayed. Let me be able to turn the quest marker off. I want my customization.

Never really cared for voice acting but I can see how this all be compared with each other. What is your opinion of it? As long as I have my sub titles I am fine with or without it.

I was going to mention underwater, but I guess that is more of a TES comparison so I guess we really can't say it here. Then again we did have it in Fallout 3 so maybe we can compare them? I don't think it will be a big issue but would mention it non the less. Just curious, is there anything in the Boston area that we can have fun underwater game play?

My big complain for Fallout 3 and New Vegas. Invisible Walls. I HATE THEM! While Witcher 3 is not perfect I think at least they made a good attempt of not having invisible walls where they don't want you to go. What should Fallout 4 have? Maybe a radiated area. The further you go in, the more radiation you get till you die?

So what do you think Fallout 4 will need to do in order to get GotY over Witcher 3?

A Bethesda logo in the beginning.

Release.

Both.

I don't think there is anything it can do. It's already don't have better graphics. Not to mention GOTY usually go to not necessary the best game just the most popular(which doesn't necessary mean it's better). Besides it's useless award anyway.

I believe Skyrim had that. It didn't become Game of the Year. That is no guarantee for Fallout 4.

Pretty much this.

Unless Beth fails miserably at what they've set out to accomplish, I see no reason why they wouldn't win GOTY...not that it really matters much in the end. Just as long as the game is entertaining enough, and it still makes a profit, all should still be good.

It did on various sites

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Honestly, the game at this point could come out and be a semi linear psuedo RPG game like bioshock, with the same length as bioshock infinite, and it will still get game of the year.

There are thousands of game review companies out there, all it takes is one to declare you game of the year and you can post that on your box and resell the game as game of the year.

Game of year, to me personally, is completely meaningless.

What won GOTY in 2011 Uncharted 3?

That, and about 50 other games.

It doesn't need to do anything. Let me tell you a little secret. There are many GOTY awards and generally every single AAA game released in a year gets at least one simply because it's an AAA game.

It got tons of GOTY awards. It even got Game of All Time awards.

Who's the critic? Skyrim received over 200 GoTY awards.

Fallout 3.

Yes it did: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyrim#Awards
Of course since everything that even mentions games gives a GOTY award it is pretty meaningless. So unless it's an https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB1zWEhgrLs it gets at least one automatically.

Edit: Whoa, ninja'd a dozen times. I must be getting old

I don't recall what was Goty in 2011. All I know was I just played only Skyrim and nothing else. I was just surprised I didn't see Skyrim become the best like Oblivion did, like Morrowind did and like how Daggerfall did.

While Skyrim is an awesome game, there were other games that did better in Skyrim. They had better graphics or better sound or what not, stuff that Bethesda use to get.

I am not saying Skyrim svcked or anything like that. To my memory I don't recall Skyrim winning the big shebang that is all.

But this is not about Skyrim. This is about Fallout 4. What does Fallout 4 need to do to win GotY or become your favourite game if GotY doesn't mean anything to you.

These games have a lot of work put into them, and it shows. So long as they keep their standard of high quality, they will win the overwhelmingy positive reviews on Steam, the 90+ score on metacritic, the millions of sales, and yes, it being awarded GOTY by hundreds of gaming publications, both from critics choosing and fans voting.

Bethesda has been one of the best companies in gaming by all of the metrics of success, only people like Rockstar are able to challenge them. I just hope that there isnt a fall, although they survived the vortex of the late 90s that destroyed a whole bunch of RPG franchises, its entirely possible that something in the future may destroy what has been built up over the decades. With gaming being so big and mainstream now, there hasn't been a gameplay style that hasnt been rebooted and had new life put into it, though. So even if Bethesda were to die someday, it wouldn't be long before there was a kickstarter campaign to make a game like it.

Can a mod please change my title. I didn't mean Game of the Year as in awards, but for personal choice as your favourite game.

Bethesda just needs to make the kind of game they want to make, support it well and keep it stable, and play to their strengths. The Witcher is a completely different kind of RPG in a lot of ways, and despite the years of hype and the typical gamer rhetoric it's not perfect.

Bethesda's pretty good at following and setting trends; pretty much every major RPG since Skyrim has a tangible influence from it, including the Witcher 3.

(jeez, was everybody comparing other RPGs to Skyrim when it came out? all this talk about the Witcher 3 is honestly kind of exhausting)

Well besides Witcher 3, BloodBorne and Batman will there be any other competition? Is Halo 5 coming out this year?

I believe so, not sure if in November or not.

Witcher 3 is literally the only thing that could HOPE to compete with FO4, and I still haven't had the motivation to finish it. unless one considers GTAV:PC a new game in which case that could also be a contender.

To be my PERSONAL game of the year?

Be a new Fallout game, by BGS, and be released in 2015, yeah. Iron sights and survival mode will go a long way to solidifying its place in the top spot of my non-existant GOTY awards show.

In that case.. Hmmm... It would definitely have to give me a richer RPG experience than Pillars of Eternity, which would be my current personal game of the year. Which is gonna be a pretty hard thing to top, as Pillars is a cRPG with lots of RPG elements, while Fallout 3 was an action RPG FPS with rpg elements, and I have no idea what direction they are going with Fallout 4, but if Skyrim is any indication i am going to assume at this point in time that Fallout 4 is going to have less RPG elements than Fallout 3 or New Vegas did.

So the game is going to have to do A LOT for me to consider it my game of the year. I'd be having to see a deeper skill system, a deeper reputation system (at least similar to new vegas's), multiple quest outcomes and ways to complete them (at least on par with new vegas's, 4-5 solutions for every quest or more), Much better thought out dialogue (in comparison to fallout 3, and especially skyrim), consequences for actions (ala Fallout New Vegas, you get quests that require you to alienate or kill other quest givers thus locking you out of those quests in that play through), more morally gray decisions instead of nonsensical good/evil decisions (blow up megaton for no reason what so ever, i dont want to see things like that), and no shoehorning into joining a specific faction (like fallout 3, you have to side with the BOS and have to fight against the enclave, in new vegas for the main quest you can choose to side with any and fight against any of your desire).

It would need at least all of those things, minimum, for me to consider it my personal game of the year.

As for my personal GotY, well, I honestly don't play enough games so I'll just say it has to meet or exceed my expectations:

Karma needs to be more meaningful (and tie-in with the "consequences" part of that mythical choice & consequence concept), and reputations need to be more balanced. Improve on the RPG mechanics so that they complement the action aspects of the game; let me decide if the game is about stealth, diplomacy, or shooting things with the character I build and the choices I make. Improve, consolidate, or cull any dump stats; I'm of the mind that the choices we're given and the way a character feels to play are more important for a modern RPG than the amount of skills and attributes we have to choose from.

Over the witcher 3... differences you can find on "the witcher series" more humor, big combat boss (hard sometimes), mount (horse), more shops, minigames are quests, in NV you can play but if you don't play cardgames per exemple, story do not change why create a thing that you don't need or add a plus to your character?? (and six, i don't pretend six is the most important thing in the game, but it's a 'real life thing'.

I'm not sayin that witcher 3 is better, storyline is less complex than fallout, there are many stories in fallout; side quest are totally new from a place to an other, it is much more advanced.

Then fallout has expansions, the story is totally new, fallout 4 expansion with a backside follower history (plus hope i control the dog like in gta 5)

-----> Hope bethesda work on an account age restriction to prevent childrens to look at pormographics scenes unlockable only by web, if this is included in the game.

Bethesda is still good with daedra demons where you can make the good or evil choice, infact sins are not shown in every games, but when you see it on a game you'r like "ohhh, it's mad, this is nasty" surprise,

common games are only focusing in combat & actions they lost the 'storyline' that make all the difference.