What does the "Advanced Armors" perk do exaclty? : V

» Tue May 15, 2012 7:13 am

"Advanced Armors"-"Can create scaled and plate armors at forges". Ok,that is the description but what does that entail. It is in the light armor side of the perk tree,so I want to know if it's worth using 2 perks to get it,since I will only be creating and wearing heavy armor.Surely im not the only who is wondering this.

I tried to find some info myself,but came up empty.Sorry if this is old news or something,and thanks for any help you can give.

Still trying to put together my first character.This is day 4. :stare:

» Tue May 15, 2012 9:35 am

I'd like to know this as well. My build has recently been destroyed and I'm trying to come up with an alternative.

» Tue May 15, 2012 6:10 am

As a light armor user, also real curious about advanced armors.

» Tue May 15, 2012 11:10 am

My guess is just that it's an aesthetic perk, meaning you can create light armours in plate form, or in scale form (perhaps they have slightly different attributes as well, who knows.)

» Tue May 15, 2012 2:04 am

My guess is just that it's an aesthetic perk, meaning you can create light armours in plate form, or in scale form (perhaps they have slightly different attributes as well, who knows.)

Since it is a perk in the mid tree- I have trouble believing the only effect is an aesthetic one.

» Tue May 15, 2012 11:10 am

Since it is a perk in the mid tree- I have trouble believing the only effect is an aesthetic one.

Hence why I added the bit where it says there could be differences in the scale and plate variations in terms of armour stats. Also, it's hardly a difficult perk to obtain as it's like the third chain, mid-tree would be more like ebony on the heavy side.

» Mon May 14, 2012 10:57 pm

From what I've heard one of the armors you can get is the legion plate/banded mail. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorica_segmentata Of course I can't confirm this. It's only something I was told.

» Tue May 15, 2012 6:38 am

Plate armour sounds quite heavy to me, but I'd be glad if I didn't have to waste points on the light armour side of smithing.

» Tue May 15, 2012 10:35 am

It sounds like it makes stronger light armor to me, since its in that side of the tree I don't see how it has anything to do with heavy armor.

» Tue May 15, 2012 2:54 am

My understanding is that you can craft various light and heavy armors without any perks (e.g. Hide, Iron).

I'm betting that Advanced Armors will allow you to craft more advanced armors of both the Light and Heavy varieties. Maybe Scale is light and Plate is heavy?

Edit: On the other hand, what Mightlylink said above makes a lot of sense.

» Tue May 15, 2012 5:25 am

It sounds like it makes stronger light armor to me, since its in that side of the tree I don't see how it has anything to do with heavy armor.

scale and plate are traditionally "heavy" armor. unless your talking about leather scales... but maybe it has something to do with racial armor?

» Tue May 15, 2012 8:43 am

It sounds like it makes stronger light armor to me, since its in that side of the tree I don't see how it has anything to do with heavy armor.

I hope this is the case to be honest.I don't want to use the 2 perks to get it if I don't have too.

» Tue May 15, 2012 12:49 am

Dragons drop Dragon Bones and Dragon Scales, we know Dragon Bones make heavy armor, maybe scales would make the light armor variant of dragon armor???

» Mon May 14, 2012 11:26 pm

It sounds like it makes stronger light armor to me, since its in that side of the tree I don't see how it has anything to do with heavy armor.

Well looking at its placement in the perk tree http://i.imgur.com/ZZhwL.jpg
I would assume its just a new form of light armor we havnt heard of yet
Yeah they do sounds like they SHOULD be armor of the heavy variety, but Bethesda can do w/e they want and we will understand their reasoning in naming sets of light armor almost like heavy armor
its prob just light armor with layered scales/plates like a thicker, fuller, mail

» Tue May 15, 2012 9:05 am

Left side of the perk tree is for light armor only and you will notice that it has 1 perk less. Those 2 armors are in the same perk so you can get deadric perk from heavy tree and make deadric weapons when you reach 100 skill, so that you will spend the same number of perks for heavy and light armored characters. Dragon armor has light and heavy variants

» Tue May 15, 2012 11:01 am

You know plates do not mean they are made of heavy materials. Probably is a light armor flavor thing. Glass was plate armor in Oblivion and so was Elven.

» Tue May 15, 2012 10:04 am

What is under light armor? Im new to the TES series.

If its the whole right side of the smithing tree, I may have
to pick it up as a rogue.

» Tue May 15, 2012 9:32 am

What is under light armor? Im new to the TES series.

In Oblivion...

Light: Fur, Leather, Mithril, Elven, Glass
Heavy: Iron, Steel, Dwarven, Ebony, Orcish, Daedric

I'm probably missing one or two. And dragon is now in the game, which is in both. And cloth might finally be a type of pseudo-armor as well

EDIT: Yup, orcish added. And the weaker variants of leather and Iron (Rough Leather and Rusty Iron).

» Tue May 15, 2012 2:41 am

This might explain why nords get a bonus to light armor... Hey all their pics have them in scale and heavy looking armor, but if it is light armor in the game um cool I guess. Maybe heavy armor is for HEAVY armor the stuff made out of ridiculously heavy materials, and all other armor as long as the material isn't obscene is light.

» Tue May 15, 2012 5:34 am

I think chain was light too wasnt it?

» Mon May 14, 2012 8:48 pm

I think chain was light too wasnt it?

Yes it was