True enough, though we were more or less forced into taking the Amulet of Kings to Jauffre. At the least it sat naggingly in your inventory until you got around to it, and all you had to do was help at Kvatch and gates would start opening up willy-nilly. It could just be that you de, have your rebirth, and can then neglect the main quest as you wish like with Oblivion. Even in Morrowind, while you were free to do what you wished, the note with the package warned you of consequnces if you didn't deliver it, thus giving you in-character motive, and you would stumble across Sixth House bases all over. TES usually does force you into a role, you can just choose whether to cast it off or embrace it.

It was just one idea however, and I doubt it myself. Rebirth does seem like an option though.

What what I hear the dragons are around from the start anyway, not triggered off like Oblivion gates. I suppose it would be best to leave the Dovahkiin out of thinsg til we know more about him. =D

This dragonborn affair seems to make no sense whatsoever. He's the soul of a dragon. Oh wait, now he was anointed and became a dragon. But the dragons are jills, and the PC obviously isn't a jill, so he must be an old-school Cyrodilic dragon. But that makes even less sense.

Dying and being reborn WOULD cement us into the role of the Dovahkiin; it's not quite the same as being obliged to carry the damn amulet around, or to report to Caius. It would establish from the very beginning that we WERE that character, instead of just putting us on the path that would lead us to that.
It limits role-playing in a way that the other openings don't. I guess you could make an argument that being the Dovahkiin from the very beginning isn't much different from Morrowind and that one was the Nerevarine all along, and it's just choosing to go along with that or ignore it that matters... but eh. I just don't see think they'd firmly put us in the role of the MQ character that soon.

It would be cool though.

Just a nitpick the2crow: the PC of Morrowind became nerevar reborn. He didn't start out that way.

Yeah, that's how I interpret it as well. I was just saying one COULD make an argument as such. I don't think it'd be a very good argument though, which is why the point of my post is opposed to it.

"Anointed by the gods" and "born with the soul of a dragon" is the "Oblivion is like Hell" of 2011. Kinda-sorta a simple explanation but nowhere near the whole story or anything accurate.

Yeah, things will probably make more sense once we get to crack open the books about the plot-related lore. If only Some developer could give us something like Liminal Bridges, but about the Dovakhiin.

"With the soul of a Dragon" is the lie new players will understand. Like saying Dagoth Ur is the devil or Oblivion is "basically Hell." He has satanic connotations in the Tribunal Temple Religion, which has not always been wholly honest with its people about the nature of things, or the land is inhabited by strange creatures from beyond the fabric of space as we know it, but they "are" not those things.

It's not hereditary. And it's not relegated to Emperors.

It's mythical and relegated to White-Gold Tower.

Even that explanation is too narrow.

I'm guessing it's not specific to White-gold tower, but just to White-gold's role in the mythical/metaphysical/whateverical structure?

Perhaps the answer involves lore we haven't got yet. Personally I think that there are non-Jill dragons out there.

Jills are to dragons as angels are to men.

Separate functions, standing, and purpose.

So, Skyrim dragons are Jills? And dragons that we read about in the histories(and are supposedly still around) are basically another race equal to men and mer?

No, I'm saying that Skyrim dragons are not Jills.

Jills are biological time machines that spring forth whenever Akatosh breaks. Minute menders. Female for reasons that should be apparent when seen in that regard.

Skyrim dragons are [NUMINIT].

[NUMINIT] are equal to men and mer? I'm sorry, I don't know where to go from here. I wish I had time to sit and think, but I've got to start getting ready for work. I don't know why I was under the impression Skyrim dragons were Jills.

It's in a singular Todd quote somewhere.

I was hoping for something to back up the Nu-Mantia Intercept (always liked that explanation of seemingly incoherent events). This will work (though it is a confirmation by the same person who wrote the Intercept...).

As for the Dragons, I preliminarily simply figured they were manifestations of the Alduin/Shor Ouroboros phenomenon, hence why you can summon them and why they assist Alduin in eating the world. Almost like Aka/Lork broken into pieces.

It wasn't a Todd quote, actually. He was never quoted as saying "Jills". It was a journalist that mentioned it in one of the articles around their Utah event. Some people came to believe that Todd let it slip, since it was a very obscure connection to make (Akatosh has Jills, Akatosh is Alduin, the Dragons seem to be working for Alduin, thus the Dragons we see are Jills), but others believed the journalist knew their lore and put it together on their own since no other article mentions it.

As for the thread topic, there were some images leaked recently that has some relevant thoughts. Obviously can't link ot it, and I'm not sure it'd be cool to copy-paste what it says, but it essentially posits if being dragonborn was a prerequisite to wearing the amulet and lighting the dragonfires, or if wearing the amulet and lighting the dragonfires was a show of Akatosh giving his blessing (ie, they weren't dragonborn before wearing the amulet and lighting the fires, but became one when going through the ritual of coronation).

Alright, also makes sense. I guess we know now.

I really need to start following all these leaks!

Breaking news: Kirkbride posts sarcastically, causes Lady N to swoon, destroys rumors that the Minute Maidens of Auri-El will be represented as flying Big Daddies. Film at [NUMINIT]!

Interesting stuff. So maybe we'll be facing down Alduin as worshiped by dragons.

Dude, you totally swooned, too. Deny it at your own rep. : )

I didn't swoon, I staggered. I swear, I'm a stinking drunk!

No swooning was involved on my end, except a little bit in that other thread but that's not here so it doesn't count.

Yes, yes, of course. We all know that.

She totally swooned, I saw it.