That's what we had to do before the internet existed, after all...
That's what we had to do before the internet existed, after all...
We also had to hope the porm Fairy decided to bless us with finding a cache of woodsporm.
if it can take a cheese avalanche, it can take a couple bullets...
I think it would be better if every mod snuck in punch and pie
Yes, and so was ME.
But games created by studios that are following "the rules" are not the same as mods made by players. Do the Witcher and DA:I have Michael Jackson with kids? What about a torture dungeon where you order npcs into cells and actively choose what instrument to use on them? Were those mods for Oblivion that I saw discussed at various points in time? Yes. Would mods like those pass Sony and Microsoft? I seriously doubt it.
The esrb didn't re-rate Oblivion for a nvde mod. Might have been part of it, but wasn't the sole cause. http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/op-ed/797-Boobies-Did-Not-Break-the-Game-The-ESRB-Clears-the-Air-On-Oblivion
The mods are going to be checked. If the creation kit is used, there won't be any "hiding" done. Even the trolls who released bad mods intentionally to crash people's games didn't get away with it after the first one. Other modders realized what had been done and started tracking down what was done, and warning everyone about what to look for.
I don't see why people, or Bethesda, have a problem with community created mods for nudity. There are a lot of players out there who want more advlt content in their game. Also, it doesn't make sense when we strip a raider or other human NPC of all their clothes and gear that they magically materialize a T-shirt and shorts when it is clearly obvious they are naked under whatever they are wearing. Case in point, most of the raider armor from Fallouts 3 and New Vegas. It takes away a layer of immersion.
If they are worried about kids getting their hands on nvde mods, they should be twice as worried how kids got their hands on vanilla FO4 even more. Already this game has instances of extreme violence, alcohol consumption, drug abuse, cursing and foul language and disturbing imagery not meant for children. And yet, their parents buy this game for them. So, saying they are trying to protect children or younger underage players from being exposed to advlt content is moot.
So why should those of us who are advlts and do want advlt content be held back from getting the full game experience we want? If there are moders out there who make nudity patches for FO4, I say let them be released without restriction. The only thing Bethesda and Microsoft should be checking for is mods that can damage players systems or corrupt their games. Beyond that, what get's released get's released.
I firmly believe that Bethesda has no problem whatsoever with nvde mods. What they do have a problem with, I am convinced, is the growing potential for lawsuits from over-zealous, litigious parents and from various religious and civic organizations that might seek to use the issue for political and financial advantage.
The Zealots could do that now with Fallout, arguing the extreme violence, drug abuse, alcohol consumption, excessive cursing, killing a baby and it's mother, and sociopolitical satire are corrupting children. However, if Bethesda was smart they would argue "Why are parent's buying this game for their children if they know it's so extremely corrupting?". That's how you shut those ignorant morons up.
Deadly Reflex for Oblivion did in fact sneak in Nudity. I kinda forgot whether it was male, female or both.
Going from my years at both Blockbuster Video and Gamestop, while yes, it is the parents buying the games, they're also not utilizing the resources already in place as to what content's in a game. I've lost count of how many times a complaining parent came tearing into the workplace livid that we rented or sold a game with violent content or sixual themes only to go through the roof when it'd be pointed out to them that the ESRB notice did list that content as present along with any potential reminder at the register that said game had a particular rating.
I figure many parents just figure "It's only a game, it'll be fine" and it's not until they walk into the room and see something they find objectionable on the screen that they'll actually take notice of what they've been buying for their kids. Naturally this sort of laziness with parenting will be the ones wanting the content not even there rather than start paying attention to what information's available for them to make the decision they feel's appropriate for their family.
Yeah, but the operative phrase there is "the parents buying the games". Yeah, it's their responsibility and obligation to research what they buy their children. The resources are there and if they don't use them that is their problem and fault, not the game developers. It's the same for the director and producers and actors in R-rated movies. It's rated R for a reason, just like Fallout 4 is rated M for Mature for a reason, it's mean for mature audiences, not little Janie and Johnny impressionable 8-year-old.
Therefore, the mods should contain whatever content the makers implement and as long as it isn't harmful to the player's games, IE corrupts saves, crashes Xbox's, etc, it should be allowed for download, regardless if the content is about adding in new armor skins for the power armor or full frontal nudity for the characters. The players should not have to suffer for the laziness or ignorance of a select few who do not understand the game rating system or who choose to buy Mature content for their children. It is THEIR mistake, not the game developers, not the players.
Bethesda probably doesn't have any issues. Microsoft and Sony? Yeah, they don't want sued. I don't know about consoles, so I'm honestly asking; can you lock the profile so younger siblings can't get at something, or is everything open to whoever plays the console?
Did they sneak it in for consoles? Because unless you had a dev kit, you really weren't supposed to be putting pc mods on console. That's why mods on consoles were never discussed here.
They have parental locks. Not to mention other games on console have nudity as well. I don't understand why it's okay for boobs in Metro Last Light, GTA and Witcher 3, but it'd be against console policy if it's in a Bethesda game
Edit: Why couldn't they just have certain mods hidden unless the account is 18+? Doesn't Nexus Mods hide advlt content unless you sign in with an advlt account?
you can set it to where you have to enter a code everytime you sign in (on xbox 1 anyway ,I don't cause I don't have kids ,don't want kids and have no prospects or chances for having kids )
http://www.ausgamers.com/features/read/3076322
One of the main issues the consoles had was not being up the the textures and detail of a pc. I think, with the new consoles, that isn't as much of a problem. If mods do come to consoles, then whatever limitations or restrictions for content would have to be followed by the modders. The questions about malicious content still remain, afaik. "Someone" somewhere will have to vet the content for security. Dealing with the content content will probably ultimately be up to Microsoft and Sony.
I strongly suspect this was part of their reason for wanting paid mods. Having a QA team to look after the console mod scene would cost money and due to the obvious limitations they would need some sort of vetting otherwise they risk a train wreck
Or maybe I'm putting 2 and 2 together and making a banana