what exactly are the dragonborn?

Post » Fri May 13, 2011 4:53 am

We don't know. They are mortals given the powers of Dragons by the gods. We don't know if our lineage was special, or if it was just that the Gods decided to make you Dragonborn.

The Nerevarine was called "Dragonborn", but that could have had a different connotation, such as "Born under the Dragon", i.e., born under the Empire. We can assume that the Champion of Cyrodiil was NOT Dragonborn, because he was unable to wear the Amulet of Kings.

If it's a matter of lineage, that's fine, but your ancestors would have known they had it. From what it sounds like, being Dragonborn isn't just something that you just randomly discover. It's a really, really big deal.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 6:53 am

Some people here seem to be mixing old theories of Dragonborns (which they came up with before Skyrim) with new info.
Judging by the info from GI, the Dragonborn were Dragon Hunters and their powers seem to have been inheritable. In past there were more of them but now for some reason only few remain. Septims seem to be one of those Dragonborn families, but probably not the only one.

However, powers of Dragonborn seem to mean little if you are not trained on how to use them. So a Dragonborn without training is just a little better then other members of his race.

What Dragonborn are exactly is unknown: they may be descendants of people who were somehow blessed or they may have been descendants of Elfoney that have been Dragonborn. Or maybe gods create them? It is still unknown for now.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 2:11 pm

Quote form the game informer article about the dragonshouts : "The dragonborn are a unique group of mortals, gifted by the gods with the same power as the dragons."
So, no interbreeding with the dragons, not necessary a blood of Septim and no fixed race or origin. It's just a "divine blessing" of a kind, end of story.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 8:01 pm

Almost nothing written in GI is "end of story" and certainly not something as vague as that.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 9:17 am

Almost nothing written in GI is "end of story" and certainly not something as vague as that.


What exactly is so vague about that statement? It's as clear as it gets, I don't see any room for misinterpretation here... It's not a "player had dragonblood", it is not "distant cousin of Septim line". It is a power bestowed by the gods on selected mortals, not much room to wiggle is it? Wile you may try to cook up some impossible stories about the subject the devs obviously cleared the point for themselves quite nicely.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 8:32 am

Judging by the info from GI, the Dragonborn were Dragon Hunters and their powers seem to have been inheritable.


I though it was the Blades who were the dragon hunters instead of the Dragonborn. I have to look for that quote again.

What Dragonborn are exactly is unknown: they may be descendants of people who were somehow blessed or they may have been descendants of Elfoney that have been Dragonborn. Or maybe gods create them? It is still unknown for now.


According to http://www.imperial-library.info/content/races-tamriel-nord, Kyne's daughters taught the Nords thu'um so she might be responsible for the Dragonborn:
She is often called the Mother of Men. Her daughters taught the first Nords the use of the thu'um, or Storm Voice.



EDIT: I misremembered. The Blades were the dragonguard and the Dragonborn are dragon hunters as you said.

"Dragonborn can battle the dragons on another level. They're annointed by the gods. That's why they can light the dragonfires to become an emperor. They kind of help make the world whole." These powerful figures were supported by the dragonguard, later called the Blades. After the dragons' retreat, the Blades eventually came to guard one ancestry of dragonborn individuals, the Septim emperors.

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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 7:21 pm

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We know that we play as the last dragonborn. Martin Septim was the last of his line, and it is unknown how our bloodline survived unknown for so long. The blades were nearly wiped out, there are very few that we still know of (1 to be exact). Akatosh and Alduin are not actually quite the same thing. Although they are both the dragon of time, they are not one and the same. Alessia made a pact with Akatosh that preventing it from attacking Nirn and placed her soul inside the amulet of kings alongside Akatosh's blood.


Dragonborn have the ability to speak the language of the dragons.


The Amulet of Kings could only be worn those who bore the blood of dragons. They are not dragon hunters by any means at all. Also, they have a DIRECT relationship to the Septim dynasty. The Septim bloodline was a dragonborn bloodline, St Alessia was the first.


Mankar Camoran wears the Amulet of Kings and has no relation whatsoever to the Septims. Dragonborns are not septim family only.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 6:17 pm

What exactly is so vague about that statement? It's as clear as it gets, I don't see any room for misinterpretation here... It's not a "player had dragonblood", it is not "distant cousin of Septim line". It is a power bestowed by the gods on selected mortals, not much room to wiggle is it? Wile you may try to cook up some impossible stories about the subject the devs obviously cleared the point for themselves quite nicely.
Because "player has dragonblood" and "player is a distant cousin of the Septim line" can both be seen as "player is gifted by the gods", and the same article refers to them as a "storied line of mortals" which seems to imply inheritance, not direct intervention on an individual basis. It also says that Dragonborn can "light the dragonfires to become the emperor" which also implies a connection to the Septim line. It refers to the Septim line as "one ancestry of dragonborn individuals". The very name "Dragonborn" implies an element of ancestry.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 6:54 am

It also says that Dragonborn can "light the dragonfires to become the emperor" which also implies a connection to the Septim line.


According to the quote, the anointment by the gods is why the dragonborn can light the dragonfires so any dragonborn would do.

It refers to the Septim line as "one ancestry of dragonborn individuals". The very name "Dragonborn" implies an element of ancestry.


Since the Septims were just "one ancestry of dragonborn individuals", it implies that the current dragonborn hero might not be related.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 11:45 am

Yes, but it implies that it is a family ancestry. So distantly related is possible, depending on where and how the line began.

Sshodan's line of "It's just a "divine blessing" of a kind, end of story." sounded to me like (s)he envisioned a god appearing before random individuals and saying "poof, you're a dragonborn".

Even if that wasn't meant. "It's just a 'divine blessing' of a kind" is hardly the end of the story of what exactly a dragonborn is.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 5:45 pm

Yes, but it implies that it is a family ancestry. So distantly related is possible, depending on where and how the line began.

Sshodan's line of "It's just a "divine blessing" of a kind, end of story." sounded to me like (s)he envisioned a god appearing before random individuals and saying "poof, you're a dragonborn".


Why not? If some gods created the first dragonborn lines, why can't they create some more? :)

At the moment, it does look like it will probably be "in the blood" of the player's character. I highly doubt they will tie your character to the Septims though.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 6:07 pm

So, assuming this has to do with bloodlines, why did the Septims after Talos neglect their Thu'um abilities? Or didn't they?
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 2:24 pm

So, assuming this has to do with bloodlines, why did the Septims after Talos neglect their Thu'um abilities?


They were too busy to go to Skyrim? :)
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 4:32 pm

They were too busy to go to Skyrim? :)
That may be part of it. The player learns them as he goes. "There are others in the world who can use the Dragon Shouts, but it's rare", so some of the words are known, in less powerful forms.

Of course, having absolutely no dragons to fight or harvest souls from, the Dragon Shouts and any other powers probably became less and less important.

Or there's a conspiracy to eliminate all knowledge of them, similar to conspiracies in past ES games.
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