What exactly is plasma

Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:57 pm

So i reently learned in my chemestry classes that plasma is heated something to about 10 million degrees (celsius i think). Supposing im not mistaking anything(correct me if i am, chenostry is not my strong point at all), i got some questions::
  • What is the element heated up in the plasma weapons we got in fallout?
  • How do the weapons heat them up?
  • How do the cells keep the plasma within them, without them melting the casing, and all around it?
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dean Cutler
 
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:05 pm

So i reently learned in my chemestry classes that plasma is heated something to about 10 million degrees (celsius i think). Supposing im not mistaking anything(correct me if i am, chenostry is not my strong point at all), i got some questions::
  • What is the element heated up in the plasma weapons we got in fallout?
  • How do the weapons heat them up?
  • How do the cells keep the plasma within them, without them melting the casing, and all around it?

1 & 2, I've got no idea, but for 3, I'd assume that the plasma is generated by the weapon the moment you pull the trigger, and is discharged before it can melt the weapon. The cells only provide the weapon the power required to generate the plasma, like batteries. Which is why they work on both laser and plasma weapons
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:07 pm

1. No idea
2. No idea
3. No idea

I hope this has been enlightening for you.
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Chase McAbee
 
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Post » Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:57 am

The following link appears to be a decent, open access, academically valid site that you may find interesting in order to answer your questions.

http://plasmas.org/
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:27 pm

I do have an idea for the third one. The power cells don't contain plasma. The weapons themselves produce the plasma. How? Fallout Science! Seriously it would be like asking for how the robots have AI when all they are made of is 1950s level of technology. How people become ghouls when exposed to to much radiation.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:15 pm

Plasma is the 4th state of matter.

But what I'm guessing is that the microfusion cell heats up whatever, then it expels it from the chamber incredibly fast.

Also just because something is plasma doesn't mean its hot. Much of our blood is in a plasma state.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:10 pm

The plasma itself is superheated ionized gas excited to the point of being converted into a pure energetic state but having solid mass in it's density. Like the sun, but localized. It's why (in theory and in the game's reality) plasma weapons have such aa short range in comparison to other DEW (directed energy weapons.)
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:00 pm

Plasma is the 4th state of matter.

But what I'm guessing is that the microfusion cell heats up whatever, then it expels it from the chamber incredibly fast.

Also just because something is plasma doesn't mean its hot. Much of our blood is in a plasma state.
damn, got ninja'ed.

Mine was more indepth though :tongue:
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Post » Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:01 am

If you are trying to find a logical scientific answer for how Plasma weapons in Fallout work you are wasting your time. None exist.

The Fallout series and weapons based in its universe (ie. Plasma and lasers) is not based on science. Its based on "SCIENCE!"
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:27 pm

If you are trying to find a logical scientific answer for how Plasma weapons in Fallout work you are wasting your time. None exist.

The Fallout series and weapons based in its universe (ie. Plasma and lasers) is not based on science. Its based on "SCIENCE!"
Indeed. It'd be like trying to reasonably justify the mass deployment of rifles with fragile glass components and thick, loose cabling... oh wait.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:37 pm

If you are trying to find a logical scientific answer for how Plasma weapons in Fallout work you are wasting your time. None exist.

The Fallout series and weapons based in its universe (ie. Plasma and lasers) is not based on science. Its based on "SCIENCE!"
Well the weapons of fallout are not, but there are prototype laser weapons, and plasma has been toyed around with.

They are just gigantic. :)
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Post » Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:26 am

there are prototype laser weapons, and plasma has been toyed around with.

There are, but they work nothing like (and will not work) like the energy weapons in Fallout do.
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Post » Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:47 am


Also just because something is plasma doesn't mean its hot. Much of our blood is in a plasma state.

No? The plasma in our blood isn't plasma in the sense that its superheated ionised gas. The plasma in our blood is fluid used as a transport system for Red Blood Cells.
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Post » Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:43 am

No? The plasma in our blood isn't plasma in the sense that its superheated ionised gas. The plasma in our blood is fluid used as a transport system for Red Blood Cells.

This

Thanks to Rads-A-Plenty for an enlightening and short explanation and to W0NDERW0MBAT aswell and i supose that it is only a game afterall so there really aint much of an explanation

Thanks to AiTenshi1 for the link too

And BTW W0NDERW0MBAT do you got a pic or a article about those prototype weapons you mentionned?
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:27 pm



And BTW W0NDERW0MBAT do you got a pic or a article about those prototype weapons you mentionned?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_weapon
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Post » Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:39 am

I just hope the Brootherhood scribes make a weapon which combines Laser and Plasma weapons like a green laser rifle powerfull, acurate and quick I always hear the scribes talking about it and I never find one in any Fallout game - Annoying. I have no idea about your actual question
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:12 pm

This

Thanks to Rads-A-Plenty for an enlightening and short explanation and to W0NDERW0MBAT aswell and i supose that it is only a game afterall so there really aint much of an explanation

Thanks to AiTenshi1 for the link too

And BTW W0NDERW0MBAT do you got a pic or a article about those prototype weapons you mentionned?
http://www.hangthebankers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Navy-laser-weapon.jpg

It is supposed to be able to detonate missiles and burn ships or something.

There is also this laset strapped onto a 747 which is used to hunt down ICBMs.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:23 pm

In real life, plasma is a very hot and dense state of matter, ususually at the core of suns during the process of nuclear Fusion. in the fallout universe its something that they made a weapon out of.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:23 pm

Super heated poop.
I mean, why do you think that you never recharge it with ammo, cause they had to censor out the 2nd reload as it's too kinky and naughty.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:52 pm

It might be because of the EVE mod, but plasma seems to act like a liquid in Fallout. I know Plasma can be directed, at least over short ranges, with High Gauss/Tesla Magnets. And Microfusion and Electron Charge packs could be Compact High Farad Capacitors to power such electro-magnets. Which would at least explain how it can expel the plasma, and why it's range is so short. I would assume it cools and without the magnetic effects directing it's motion, simple inertia takes over. As it cools it hardens and becomes more spherical, which explains the blob shaped projectile and why it has such a short range. As to how it is produced, I couldn't tell you. I DO know that in your standard flourecent light, there is a temporary plasma state. But as I understand it, Plasmas are transitional phases and generally will not self stabalize like a solid liquid or gas will. I'm getting out of my field here though. Mostly, I deal in electronics.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:33 pm

I say we petition to have theoretical physicists gain an interest in Fallout and the community. Then we can bug them anytime we have a question on the forums.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:24 pm

I'm pretty sure that Plasma in real life is what happens when gas is superheated (like really, really hot; like star hot).
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:33 pm

There's also cold plasma. If forcefields ever exist that's likely what of will be. Other than that though its unlikely they will officially explain it. Plasma cutters terrifying me to be honest. They get thousands of degrees hotter than the sun. That's just asking for [censored] to happen.
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Post » Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:20 am

So i reently learned in my chemestry classes...

chenostry is not my strong point at all

The hell you say.

Don't worry about it. It's all just magic anyway. All you need to know is that if you see green stuff flying at you, get out of the way.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:55 pm

As I believe has been said, plasma is the fourth element (Wonder if there is a Fifth Element). My experience and knowledge of plasma comes form a plasma cutter. The cutter apparently heats up to 20,000 degrees, so I assume being struck with a blast from the plasma rifle, should "F" up a dude pretty easy.
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