What EXACTLY is or who EXACTLY Alduin is?

Post » Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:07 pm

EDIT: Sorry for title, I ment to ask what Alduin would look like :tops:

I was just randomly pondering like I always do when bored, then I somehow remembered how the avatar of Akatosh in Oblivion WAS a dragon, but not physically one. Then I remembered http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbuQSGe8LS0 GI did way back in Jan., when Behtesda was talking about voice actors, Max Von Snydow (spelling?) in preticular. Just listen to what he says when he voices Esbern. That gets me thinking: Is Alduin a dragon spiritually or physically? Spiritually as in http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4040/4635696380_fc7392b908.jpg or physically as in http://attackofthefanboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/The_Elder_Scrolls_V_Dragon_Shout.jpg
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Post » Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:43 am

I was just randomly pondering like I always do when bored, then I somehow remembered how the avatar of Akatosh in Oblivion WAS a dragon, but not physically one. Then I remembered http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbuQSGe8LS0 GI did way back in Jan., when Behtesda was talking about voice actors, Max Von Snydow (spelling?) in preticular. Just listen to what he says when he voices Esbern. That gets me thinking: Is Alduin a dragon spiritually or physically? Spiritually as in http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4040/4635696380_fc7392b908.jpg or physically as in http://attackofthefanboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/The_Elder_Scrolls_V_Dragon_Shout.jpg

Alduin is Akatosh and he is trying to eat the world so he can free himself from Nirn and be free to rejoin the spirit realm.
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Post » Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:57 pm

Alduin is Akatosh and he is trying to eat the world so he can free himself from Nirn and be free to rejoin the spirit realm.


But I wasn't asking if Alduin and Akatosh were the same, I was asking what Alduin would look like.
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Post » Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:21 pm

Alduin is Akatosh and he is trying to eat the world so he can free himself from Nirn and be free to rejoin the spirit realm.

Lol wut?Where the hell did you get your info from?

But he is partially correct Alduin is Akatosh but a different culture interpetitaion of him.In the imperial religion he is the god of time while in the nordic religion he ate the world to start this one is re-doing this again.


Try to think of it this way they are different entities compeltly but the cultures belief in them created them and made them real.

EDIT:Just read your post and I imgiane Alduin is a giant dragon,my main post was to try to clear up Uberpwnage's misinformation.
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Post » Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:17 am

But I wasn't asking if Alduin and Akatosh were the same, I was asking what Alduin would look like.


Aludin will be a huge m&%$£& f$^%"*&% dragon or,

the stroy will twist and you will be Aludin :mage:
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Post » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:51 pm

Lore-wise he doesn't look like anything except what your feeble mortal mind interprets him as. He is the ultimate expression of the Anuic, devouring the world and leaving potentiality in its place, ever-struggling against the Padomaic Lorkhan who wishes to preserve the state of things and protect the races of man.

In the game his avatar will probably be a big badass dragon that you'll have to fight multiple times, hopefully with patterns of speech that are all but incomprehensible or perhaps speaking through a mortal servant, who will most assuredly have very pointy ears.
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Post » Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:34 am

Lore-wise he doesn't look like anything except what your feeble mortal mind interprets him as. He is the ultimate expression of the Anuic, devouring the world and leaving potentiality in its place, ever-struggling against the Padomaic Lorkhan who wishes to preserve the state of things and protect the races of man.

In the game his avatar will probably be a big badass dragon that you'll have to fight multiple times, hopefully with patterns of speech that are all but incomprehensible or perhaps speaking through a mortal servant, who will most assuredly have very pointy ears.

According to lore he wouldn't leave Lorkhan he would start a new world by eating this world.
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Post » Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:04 am

Lol wut?Where the hell did you get your info from?


I read it somewhere, on the wiki perhaps? I was under the interpretation I was correct.

Oh and OP you should change the title then, because you are asking who Alduin is in the title, not what he looks like.
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Post » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:35 pm

According to lore he wouldn't leave Lorkhan he would start a new world by eating this world.


This post makes no sense. Do you know who Lorkhan is?
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Post » Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:45 am

I read it somewhere, on the wiki perhaps? I was under the interpretation I was correct.

Oh and OP you should change the title then, because you are asking who Alduin is in the title, not what he looks like.


Gotcha, Im gonna edit my OP :tops:
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Post » Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:14 pm

He's a god so I think he can take any form he wants.
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Post » Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:29 pm

He's a god so I think he can take any form he wants.


Thats true, like he would take an aspect as something in disguise :toughninja:
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Post » Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:44 am

i thought he was banished to nirn and he wants to gain some kind of respect or equality with the other gods.
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Post » Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:26 pm

This post makes no sense. Do you know who Lorkhan is?

Lorkhan fights for mortals, right? He is the opposite of Padomay/Sithis?



Edit: JVM441 thanks, thats kinda what I was getting at.
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Post » Fri Jun 17, 2011 6:41 pm

Lorkhans the creator of Nirn
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Post » Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:15 pm

Lorkhan fights for mortals, right? He is the opposite of Padomay/Sithis?


Hoo boy. I guess I can't fault you for not knowing, the lore in TES is as convoluted and confusing as it is deep and rich. Read http://www.imperial-library.info/content/dawn-era for a semi-comprehensive breakdown of it. Here's the gist of it:

Reality is the dream of the Godhead. The Godhead is split into two aspects: Anu and Padomay. Anu is potential. Padomay is entropy. They are not really sentient in the same sense that the Aedra and Daedra are, consider them the subconscious or id of reality.

Entities rose out of their interaction and were not yet divided into Aedra and Daedra. Many were half-made but were unable to last or really take form until Akatosh formed, and with him time. His existence made it possible for others to find solidity, among them was the spirit Lorkhan. Lorkhan devised a plan for the creation of the mortal plane and convinced or tricked the others into creating it, with Magnus as its architect. Those who participated became the Aedra and their essence is tied to the mortal world. Those who did not became the Daedra and they are connected only to themselves and the void of Oblivion and thus cannot die. The Aedra realized too late that the mortal world was a trap, and some (including Magnus) fled into Aetherius, the realm of magic, and in so doing left tears in Oblivion's fabric, thus creating the sun and stars. Many Aedra disappeared completely and became the stuff of the mortal plane. Some degenerated into the "Earthbones," the rules that define the mortal world. Some became the Ehlnofey, the original mortal life forms from which all life on the world (except the Hist trees) descend.

Lorkhan was punished by the gods by having his heart torn out and thrown across the world. He's "dead" but he has avatars that come about every so often, usually as champions of humans that fight the elves. This is because the elves think that being in the mortal realm trapped them and made them mortal, whereas humans believe that they can attribute the mortal realm to their very existence. Thus elves favor Akatosh (who they call Auri-El) and the Nords favor Lorkhan (whom they call Shor).

Hell, even that's not a simple explanation, so here's the TLDR:

Anu: Source of reality
Padomay/Sithis: Changes reality and gives it meaning
Akatosh/Alduin: God of Time
Lorkhan: Trickster/Creator god
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Post » Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:40 pm

Last time I checked, Alduin is the same thing as Akatosh, just how the Nords view him.
Think of him as the same person as Akatosh, but the nords have a different opinion of him. Kind of like how different languages have different names for things, it's the same thing, aqua and water are the same thing, they just have different names.
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Post » Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:05 am

Hoo boy. I guess I can't fault you for not knowing, the lore in TES is as convoluted and confusing as it is deep and rich. Read http://www.imperial-library.info/content/dawn-era for a semi-comprehensive breakdown of it. Here's the gist of it:

Reality is the dream of the Godhead. The Godhead is split into two aspects: Anu and Padomay. Anu is potential. Padomay is entropy. They are not really sentient in the same sense that the Aedra and Daedra are, consider them the subconscious or id of reality.

Entities rose out of their interaction and were not yet divided into Aedra and Daedra. Many were half-made but were unable to last or really take form until Akatosh formed, and with him time. His existence made it possible for others to find solidity, among them was the spirit Lorkhan. Lorkhan devised a plan for the creation of the mortal plane and convinced or tricked the others into creating it, with Magnus as its architect. Those who participated became the Aedra and their essence is tied to the mortal world. Those who did not became the Daedra and they are connected only to themselves and the void of Oblivion and thus cannot die. The Aedra realized too late that the mortal world was a trap, and some (including Magnus) fled into Aetherius, the realm of magic, and in so doing left tears in Oblivion's fabric, thus creating the sun and stars. Many Aedra disappeared completely and became the stuff of the mortal plane. Some degenerated into the "Earthbones," the rules that define the mortal world. Some became the Ehlnofey, the original mortal life forms from which all life on the world (except the Hist trees) descend.

Lorkhan was punished by the gods by having his heart torn out and thrown across the world. He's "dead" but he has avatars that come about every so often, usually as champions of humans that fight the elves. This is because the elves think that being in the mortal realm trapped them and made them mortal, whereas humans believe that they can attribute the mortal realm to their very existence. Thus elves favor Akatosh (who they call Auri-El) and the Nords favor Lorkhan (whom they call Shor).

Hell, even that's not a simple explanation, so here's the TLDR:

Anu: Source of reality
Padomay/Sithis: Changes reality and gives it meaning
Akatosh/Alduin: God of Time
Lorkhan: Trickster/Creator god


this guy right here...
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Post » Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:48 am

Lore-wise he doesn't look like anything except what your feeble mortal mind interprets him as. He is the ultimate expression of the Anuic, devouring the world and leaving potentiality in its place, ever-struggling against the Padomaic Lorkhan who wishes to preserve the state of things and protect the races of man.

In the game his avatar will probably be a big badass dragon that you'll have to fight multiple times, hopefully with patterns of speech that are all but incomprehensible or perhaps speaking through a mortal servant, who will most assuredly have very pointy ears.

All mortal villians of TES are elves, also it even makes good sense this time around due to the the Elves favoring Aludin/Akatosh/Auri-El over Lorkhan as said by Greg
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Post » Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:25 am

EDIT: Sorry for title, I ment to ask what Alduin would look like :tops:

I was just randomly pondering like I always do when bored, then I somehow remembered how the avatar of Akatosh in Oblivion WAS a dragon, but not physically one. Then I remembered http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbuQSGe8LS0 GI did way back in Jan., when Behtesda was talking about voice actors, Max Von Snydow (spelling?) in preticular. Just listen to what he says when he voices Esbern. That gets me thinking: Is Alduin a dragon spiritually or physically? Spiritually as in http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4040/4635696380_fc7392b908.jpg or physically as in http://attackofthefanboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/The_Elder_Scrolls_V_Dragon_Shout.jpg


Confirmed, Alduin is a cloud.
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Post » Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:42 pm

Hoo boy. I guess I can't fault you for not knowing, the lore in TES is as convoluted and confusing as it is deep and rich. Read http://www.imperial-library.info/content/dawn-era for a semi-comprehensive breakdown of it. Here's the gist of it:

Reality is the dream of the Godhead. The Godhead is split into two aspects: Anu and Padomay. Anu is potential. Padomay is entropy. They are not really sentient in the same sense that the Aedra and Daedra are, consider them the subconscious or id of reality.

Entities rose out of their interaction and were not yet divided into Aedra and Daedra. Many were half-made but were unable to last or really take form until Akatosh formed, and with him time. His existence made it possible for others to find solidity, among them was the spirit Lorkhan. Lorkhan devised a plan for the creation of the mortal plane and convinced or tricked the others into creating it, with Magnus as its architect. Those who participated became the Aedra and their essence is tied to the mortal world. Those who did not became the Daedra and they are connected only to themselves and the void of Oblivion and thus cannot die. The Aedra realized too late that the mortal world was a trap, and some (including Magnus) fled into Aetherius, the realm of magic, and in so doing left tears in Oblivion's fabric, thus creating the sun and stars. Many Aedra disappeared completely and became the stuff of the mortal plane. Some degenerated into the "Earthbones," the rules that define the mortal world. Some became the Ehlnofey, the original mortal life forms from which all life on the world (except the Hist trees) descend.

Lorkhan was punished by the gods by having his heart torn out and thrown across the world. He's "dead" but he has avatars that come about every so often, usually as champions of humans that fight the elves. This is because the elves think that being in the mortal realm trapped them and made them mortal, whereas humans believe that they can attribute the mortal realm to their very existence. Thus elves favor Akatosh (who they call Auri-El) and the Nords favor Lorkhan (whom they call Shor).

Hell, even that's not a simple explanation, so here's the TLDR:

Anu: Source of reality
Padomay/Sithis: Changes reality and gives it meaning
Akatosh/Alduin: God of Time
Lorkhan: Trickster/Creator god

And..who wrote this nonsense? Fan fic? I've never seen anything like that in a book in game.
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Post » Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:52 am

Because you haven't been paying any attention. Read http://www.imperial-library.info/content/morrowind-monomyth.
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Post » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:19 pm

Because you haven't been paying any attention. Read http://www.imperial-library.info/content/morrowind-monomyth.

..lol. that's an awful lot of speculation and fan based "assumptions". Everything you just said is not in that book. Bits and pieces, yes, but not all.
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Post » Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:09 pm

Hooo.... My mind is blowing circuits from reading all the before posts lol... I just think Alduin will be a big dragon that you will have to fight a few times, or... a main character will sacrifice himself to kill it and you just watch.. LOL
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Post » Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:15 am

Lorkhans the creator of Nirn

Not in nordic religion in nodic religion Alduin ate the world to create this one so he is doing it again,again lorkhan dosen't exsist in nordic religion
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