What exactly do you mean by this? How are Morrowind's side quests a different style than any other game's?

I think it was more the fatigue system that made combat a drag, on top of "missing" looking like you're hitting the enemy for 0 damage. It slowed down gameplay a lot for those looking to simply play the game rather than entertain a method of RPing.

They feel too repetitive. They're almost always just simple fetch, escort, and/or kill quests with few truly providing unique settings, premises, surprises, twists, and references from my experiences, yet I've found many numerous twists and turns in Oblivion's that made them stand out for me. I've seen what I believe is an improvement in quest structure with each progressive Elder Scrolls game, so in comparison to the older games, I think Morrowind's side quests are fine, but I enjoyed Oblivion's more, and Fallout 3's even more. For example:


I played through Morrowind's Fighter's Guild questline, Morrowind's Imperial Legion questline, and half of Morrowind's Redoran questline waiting for the really cool stuff to happen (building my stronghold was nice and the corruption within the Fighter's Guild was too, but the quests just didn't seem worth it), but it all felt a bit... the same. I just don't feel motivated to go through any more faction quests and from what I've seen from non-faction side quests in towns, I don't feel like playing through those anymore, either.

Non-respawning dungeons and chests (in general). The kleptomaniac in me hates to run out of things to steal

Stop focusing on the negative and realize that we can all agree that the phrase "YOU NWAH!" needs to be reimplemented.

Well, this is a "What don't you want from Morrowind" thread, I am going to assume that all the responses are the taking away of the negative things from morrowind.

It's Graphics :wink_smile:

I guess the terrible animations, lack of NPC schedules (shops shouldn't be open 24 hours a day), and the non regenerating magicka.



Whaaat? Only to find that a rare item you placed in this respawning container, un-aware of it's respawnedness, is now non-existent?

I want to see Skyrim be a clone of Morrowind with snow instead of ash o_O

Don't want:
1. Morrowind's one-dimensional NPCs
2. Morrowind's combat system
3. Morrowind's crash bugs

Do want:
1. Morrowind's sense of wonderment
2. Morrowind's range of factions and quests (though not as simplistic)
3. Morrowind's customization options
4. Morrowind's moddability

Two words:

Combat system. Or dice rolls I suppose.

Same here.

The thing that irked me most about Morrowind (despite it being the greatest game of all time!) was that you couldn't easily switch between normal combat and casting a spell - the mechanics of that were a bit slow and clunky, and deterred the use of classes, whether preset or custom, that use a mix of both magic and weapons. It's the one thing I vastly prefer in Oblivion, that you can cast a spell with your weapon drawn by pressing a different button - for characters that aren't pure warriors or pure mages but like a bit of both (or a thief/bard type who wants to cast invisibility or a calm type spell mid-combat), it's a necessity.

All the stuff about NPC schedules and behaviour that has been mentioned I agree with also, but somehow I can't imagine them going back to Morrowind style AI, that can only have moved forward in the time since Oblivion, surely.

This, and also I hated the tedious slow running speed of Morrowind - and how it forced me travel to some far away place by foot on a quest, slowly, and then once I completed the quest, then I had to travel all the way back... sloooowly.... and hopping constantly to increase my athletics skill too. Besides graphics, the only thing I preferred about Oblivion to Morrowind, was the fact that they made the running far less tedious. Shame they took it too far though and added in all the instant travel.

I would also like to add the often boring and unimaginative quests. And also the boring locations - ie - the unbelievably basic dungeon design, and all the outdoor locations looking exactly the same.

Sadly, most of this was true of Oblivion as well.

thats precisely what i hated about oblivions magic system. that and the incredibly high regen rate. it made the game way to easy to play. if you going to cast a spell then switching stances is the best way to simulate chanting or focusing on the spell. it seems a bit ridiculous that a knight in heavy armor carrying a sword and shield in the middle of combat who diesnt even have any of the magic skills as a major can just wave his hand a bit and out comes fireballs and lightning bolts. it makes it way to easy. they could probably make it more fluid or a bit faster but i miss that the most from the morrowind system.

Animations and "I could kill that guar..". What i do want is "We're watching you, scum!"

The combat... Dear Azura... the combat...

I agree completely

That was actually pretty funny, if somewhat annoying (the sound just grates). Imagine with Vvardenfell near-destroyed, and Jiub having driven the cliff-races from Morrowind, they may have settled in Skyrim! Oh, the possibilities. Actually, I wouldn't mind one cliff-racer if only to do homage to our most hated foe (kind of like the stuffed on in Skaal village).

What I don't want?

Combat system
Lack of NPC schedules
NPC blockages in doorways (and narrow hallways)
Running speed
Housing system (though the Ahnassi quest-chain was fun)

I'm not going to post in this thread because anything Seti18 will say or already has said, I sign under. Apart from the MW running animations. Those were badass.

Like a pimple on a lovers backside, buy the time you are close enough to notice it you'll probably have other things on your mind.

If you don't like MW then a list of changes is easy to make. If you do like MW then, well, it is far more than the sum of its parts and changing a single part carries the risk of destroying the entire illusion. If Skyrim is sufficient to create the illusion and the mechanics don't scream 'you are playing a game' them I'm sure my imagination is sufficient to paper over the cracks.

The combat

spears and crossbows

:slap:

This is easy for me. The most clunky feeling thing about Morrowind for me was the "whack 10 times and miss most of the time, even when swinging directly at the enemy" thing. It should happen perhaps with an NPC with an avoidance enchantment or spell effect, but not due to weapon skill. It just felt sloppy to me when I started Morrowind and barely won versus a silly minor enemy, missing most of the time I swung directly at it.

Swing 50 times... rest to get health back. Swing 50 times... rest to get health back. No.

As for Oblivion, leveled enemies if they do that should be based on skill as well as level. It makes little sense to have enemies power up for many levels of attack all because I talked to everyone in town and leveled many times just from speechcraft for example (which happened to me in Oblivion).