I have just alt + tabbed out of my game. It was a hard decision for me to turn in Ogmund for his christia.... er Talos worship. He seems like a good guy, but the truth hurts. Now that I've turned him in for his self righteous belief, what's going to happen to him? Fined? Jailed? Cidhna Mines? Execution? Will he just disappear from the game? Imo he needs a chance to right his wrongs, not be executed. I checked the wiki, only the quest is mentioned.

You turned a brother Nord into the wretched Thalmor for honoring the greatest hero that ever lived?

*notches an arrow*

You fool. You turned in a nice, innocent man for what? WHAT? A much easier and better solution would be to simply MURDER the beasts that killed him. Yes, killed. Have you seen any other Talos shrine besides the Markarth and Whiterun ones? Everyone there, dead. No survivors.

He may have been a nice man, but he deserves justice. The Thalmar are Altmer, who have moral and racial superiority over the Nords. I bet most Talos terrorists are Stormcloak supporters. That's where I'm coming from.

Stormcloaks == Stormfront org white racists.

So, because somebody chooses to worship a real hero, that founded the Empire that EVERY human lives under, essentially, they're terrorists that deserve torture or death?

I'll admit, some Stormcloaks are racist, but not all are. Ralof is a sterling example. So is the Free-winter guy. One bad apple spoils the bunch.

While I support the Empire first, the Stormcloaks have their values, their honor, and their goals. Not all are noble or perfect, but they have entirely human and reasonable desires. If not for Ulfric being slightly selfish, and the bloody civil war, I'd entirely support Skyrim winning it's independence. As it is, Skyrim needs to remain united with the Empire to stay alive, and to help overthrow the Thalmor, and their oppressive, heretical regime.

LONG LIVE THE EMPIRE! LONG LIVE SKYRIM! DEATH TO THE THALMOR!

You should have thought about it before you turned him in. How much did they pay you for another man's freedom? 100 gold?

My brtoher, let us wait until he sleeps.
I have this poison..

You’re a puppet of the Thalmor, I SAY GOOD DAY TO YOU SIR! :down:

No, the stormcloaks are a bunch of ignorant, uneducated, beer drinking, racist, homophobes who stink of Nord stink and who need to be stomped by a Nord dragonborn and sent to Hammerfell as slaves. Sure, a few of of them might have outstanding qualities, but their whole organization is based on intolerance and a sense of entitlement. The Altmer Dominion asks only for a little cooperation.


1500 and a chance to do the right thing. My Nord is an evil alchemy poisoner, what do you expect?

I married Onmund, actually.
When he says 'goodbye, my love' it sounds so sad, I want to stay at home..

Free-winter isn't a Stormcloak, he is a ex-legionnaire.

On topic: How could you turn in him? He is like the nicest guy ever.

Khajiit is disappointed in you...

No, the Altmer Dominion asks for a religious figure to be stripped away from it’s followers. Just something else they can say they did to the world while sitting on their high horse.

Regardless of which side you prefer, Stormcloak or Imperial, you should not even hesitate before planting an axe in the skull of any Thalmor dog you see. Why would you aid them? It doesn't matter if you like Talos or not, whether this man was 'innocent' or not, what matters is that you just aided one of the most evil organizations in existence. Not even my cold-blooded Assassin would do such a thing. Do you know anything of the Aldmeri Dominion?

Greatest hero?
Book spoiler!!


I however did not turn him in, While I do side with the empire I hate the Thalmor with a passion,Also, the guy was not bad looking .
But soon my brothers, soon the Thalmor shall fall!
Me hopes for a DLC where we side or bring down the Thalmor, it is just a big lore part to get ignored into the next TES installment.

*muppet*
And:
Argh, argh, argh, Rawrgr, Animal!

He is a full grown advlt and accountable for his crimes. The best outcome for him would be to report other Talos freaks.

Edit:
As I said, for evil roleplay characters. I didn't realize the Thalmar were the 'most evil thing in existance,' but they can be compared the inquistion or to Mary Tudor's justified policies against the heretics of her time.

The Stormcloaks are not founded on racism. They're founded on wanting Skyrim to have a High King that has more control than the Emperor, so that the country can prosper. They also want to be free to worship as they please, and to be able to have their own laws. Under the Thalmor's tyrannical rule, that isn't possible. Instead, they get dragged out of their homes, murdered, tortured, or WORSE for worshiping their oldest god, the founder of the Empire, or for supporting freedom for Skyrim.

Saying they're all uneducated, beer drinking, racist, homophobes is more ignorant than anything they can do, and shows your own colors. While I favor the Empire first, the Stormcloaks have entirely reasonable demands, that SHOULD be allowed to pass, if not for the Thalmor occupation that would spell Skyrim's end if the Stormcloaks won and Skyrim became free from the Empire, and the White-Gold Concordant. Skyrim, and the Stormcloaks, need to stand by the Empire and bide their time until they can strike, and toss the Thalmor back to the pisshole of a dump they call home.

*folds arms and nods*

It wasn't easy I know...but this elf approves.

Oh and Adebar, have you been to Windhelm? Hmm?

I've been there, and it wasn't a very nice place.

Can't be homophobes since one of my characters married another guy

But eitherway, at first I wanted to side with the Stormcloacks, but the more I thought of it, the more of a bad idea a independent Skyrim is, The Thalmor beat the empire into submission, who is to say they can't do it to Skyrim once it is independent? And Skyrim will not have any outside help at all since the whole Empire will attack it!
Also the financial benefit that Skyrim gets from the empire and what not, and I also hate Ulfric

It seems like the OP is unfamiliar with the Thalmor, or is RP'ing some total whackjob. Or an Altmer.

The Thalmor can most closely be compared to KKK in control of a nation, or even compared to Nazis. The Aldmeri Dominion is known for, among other things such as believing in an elven master race, sweeping racial purges throughout their controlled territory. Moreover, in Skyrim alone they hunt down anyone who does not openly state that Talos is not a god. Entire shrines can be found where every single worshipper has been murdered by Thalmor. They will attack you in the wild if you don't berate Talos. They're the biggest threat to Skyrim and the Empire.

LOL BEST TOPIC EVER

Moving along, homophobes? Where are you getting that from? They’re just fighting for their way of life, first the Thalmor come in and take away Talos, now they’re taking innocent people away to “interrogate” them to supply nothing but personal needs. This isn’t the act of a just and kind organization. I fully expect to walk into a Thalmor camp and see the poor innocent Adoring Fan getting the Chinese water torture or a slow acid drip.

...and if the Stormcloaks rule Skyrim whats to stop Ulfric from doing the same thing to every single elf in the Provence? Who knows what that madman would do as high king.

Skyrim for the Nords remember? It would only be a matter of time.

Yes.

I also punched the living hell out of Ralff on my Stormcloak character.

BECAUSE HE WAS RACIST.

The Thalmor have already proven they will kill anyone who doesn’t share they’re views. While the stormcloaks aren’t the best role-models they still have some morals. If Ulfric was like the Thalmor there would be NOOOO WAY the Grey Quarter would be standing. Do you think the Thalmor would actually let another race of people live in the same city as them? Especially if the city has so much history like Windhelm does? The entirety of the Thalmor organization has a god complex that I HOPE I can destroy in upcoming DLCs.