I was wanting to try some other games, and remember going to Blockbuster time and time again, seeing Fallout 3, but not renting it, I'd keep choosing something else. Eventually, I read a little about it, and thought to myself: "I'd probably like this game a lot." The whole 50's Sci-Fi Americana feel was awesome seeming, and that's what got me interested. As a man who loves his country, and loves that time period-I knew that I'd like a game like that. Still, I was never into games with the whole "zombies" ordeal and stuff like that. I just didn't like stuff that was seemingly fantastical-and still don't to an extent, I've never played a TES game, because the setting and theme don't interest me.
Still, I figured I'd give it a shot eventually...I went back to Blockbuster one day to rent a game, and was trying to choose between a game I don't remember, and Fallout 3. I chose the other game, and as I left I thought to myself "I don't know why I don't give that game a chance, I'd probably really enjoy it.."
So, next time I went to rent a game, I had myself stuck on getting FO3....and it never went back. It blew me away how amazing it was.The best game I'm likely to ever play.

You think they are going to listen to a small base of what a couple of 1000, Maybe not even that. Or do you think they are going to stick to a formula that worked, got good reviews, and good game sales?

I've heard them say that they listen to their fans, considering that most of their fans voice themselves on the forums then yes I do think that they will listen to us to some degree.

I never liked RPG's when i was young because i tough they needed to have a fantasy style, fallout 3 proved me wrong.
I first saw it a friends house and tough it was just an ugly shooter.
A year later i somehow got interested in Rpg's and wanted to try one out, my friend told me that this RPG had guns and was no fantasy so i would like it(i was superficial about games in those days) I tried it and i was hooked..

Bethesda won't "learn" anything from these forums, and rightfully so.
What the Dinosaurs here don't seem to realize is that they are in the minority, go take a stroll through some other places that talk about Fallout, YouTube or Gamespot for instance.
Bethesda will stick to their formula for FO4, keep some of the minor improvements NV made with weapon modding and such, and they will reek in the dough from it.
Because in the end, it doesn't matter what a few loud mouthed whiners on an internet forum think, in the end, all that matters is this:

http://fallout.gamesas.com/eng/links/fallout3-awards.php

You're completely forgetting the big picture here. Either buckle down and accept the series will never be what you want it to be, or stop complaining about every little thing that happens. We couldn't even get through the Old World Blues Qore preview thread yesterday without you pouting about something. It's getting tiring.
I really have no desire to be rude, but I am just beyond sick of people complaining...it's old..

Who's talking about ancient mechanics? A few original factions and an ending without something as silly as them activating Liberty Prime would be a titanic improvement...
Oh and some actual agriculture too.

I mean come on, do you honestly think that Liberty Prime was a good idea, the Pre-War Army, and two of the biggest Robotics giants couldn't get it working yet the Brotherhood with only the resources at hand get it running and operational without even a single test?

Yes it was enjoyable. Just like New Vegas was. Sorry but the the poster above you is so right. It's not going to change. It will never go back to fallout 1 or 2.

The whole point is the story's are suppose to be fun and far from realistic.

The one thing I would like to see is the fallout NV writers working with the fallout 3 writers and merging together.

Bethseda had to use what they used in FO3 cuse they whanted the older gamers to relate to the new FO and the new ones to experience what we experienced the first time we played FO and it worked

Fallout 3 was the convergence of two great obsessions.

The first obsession was life after The End. Ever since I was a kid (in the 70's, sadly) I have been fascinated by post-apocalypse films & books. I clearly remember the first time I saw the ruined subways in Beneath the Planet of the Apes. Like a razor stuck in my brain. Then I read Zelazny's Damnation Alley and This Immortal, watched Dawn of the Dead... you get where I'm going. I guess I'm a primitive at heart, or like to think of myself as one.

The other was Role Playing Games. Starting with D&D (the old box games, not that new-fangled 'advanced' nonsense) and moving forward until I became a one-trick-pony writer for the Hero System (Horror Hero) I loved using my imagination to create worlds and scenarios (I stuck to GM-ing, mostly). Real life intruded eventually (you can't make a living writing RPGs unless you are extremely skilled & lucky) and I slowly fell off that bandwagon. Then I started playing computer and console RPGs.

Then came Morrowind and Oblivion, and learning on this very board (I actually joined here years ago but had password problems I couldn't get fixed so I've been lurking forever, until in October I was able to join again) that there was going to be a game that combined 3D roleplaying and the post-apocalyse.

That was Fallout 3.

Not really, it's still bound by logic. I don't care about mechanics or isometric or map nodes or whatever; all I want is my world to make damn sense, they had farms in Oblivion so why not in F3? The Brotherhood's hasty repair of Liberty Prime, the inclusion of the Enclave, all of the Vaults apart from 101; I just don't think - and provably so - that they should have happened. Here's hoping my pecsemism for the Commonwealth - because frankly Harkness is the most farfetched thing in Fallout outside of the Sierra Madre Machines - is misplaced and they explain the biblical level of technology that place has is well explained.

I'll stick to complaining.

Well I'm afraid it's not your world. It's a video game. And video games are suppose to not represent reality but an idea,fantasy etc implemented into a game.

In fact tell me what you don't like about fallout 3?



Thus Bethesda will take you seriously if they read a comment like this.

Quite right, too. While I'm primarily a fan of the two newer games, I believe a series should always have internal consistency. If not actual mechanics of game play and presentation, at least a shared spirit of intent and tone. That's why the Burned Game will never be accepted, and while even the most hardcoe dinosaur will grudgingly admit that F3 has a few redeeming characteristics.
Complain away. Keep it real.

:shrug:

Oh and we're getting very offtopic, maybe we should start a thread in Fallout Series called "Fallout 4 and Beyond - What formula should they stick to?" where we could discuss what formula Bethesda think they will/should use. (Should they Falloutize or Elder Scrollize Fallout 4 and future Fallout games? (Should Bethesda make both franchises clones of each other or should they try to distance the franchises from another?))

Maybe because most of the people who played fallout 3 enjoyed it. Why the hell would they all of a sudden want to change it? How would you have it then, I would like to hear your view.

Start a thread in Series and you get to hear it.

OK http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1197531-fallout-4-and-beyond-what-formula-should-they-stick-to/

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It's the same thing.
The only reason we don't have to listen to your incessant whining is because Obsidian made it, and they are the "original" creators.
There was nothing wrong with Liberty Prime. Not a thing. He was one cool cat.
The only reason your complaining about it because you folks had your mind so set on hating FO3 going into it that you never gave it the opportunity to let you have fun.

Get over it, please. All we want is a decent forum where we can all enjoy the FO series without having a few obnoxious nostalgiatards come into every thread and piss and moan about "the good ole days"

Fallout 3 got me started on the Fallout series.

I have always had a fascination with post apocalyptic scenarios. From movies such as "Damnation Alley" and "A boy and his dog" not to mention the mad max series. Along with that was post apocalyptic fiction such as Stephen King's "The Dark Tower" collection which reminds me a lot of Fallout New Vegas.

At what point did I say I love svcking on Obsidian's infalliable dike? I love it how your so quick to play get on your soapbox and act as the vanguard against all that the unjust and hypocrital that you don't even read what people damn post.

At what point did I say we should go back to Isometric and turn-based? I pointed out flaws in the game and silly writing (which is aparently okay because Prime is 'cool'), I've done it for Fallout and Fallout 2 and will do so again if a situation demands it; bet you didn't even read my post before deciding to play keyboard-warrior, hell I even called him Liberty Prime instead of Optimus as the others would more than liekly do.

Your just F3's GabrielDan at the end of the day.

I started with Fallout 3, I was amazed at the quality of the game and the ability to choose my own fate and survival. I remember the first time I saw an Outcast patrol, they said to me "shouldn't you be banging rocks or something?" and after that I was like oh man I WANT a suit of power armor and a laser rifle so I can the supreme ruler of this wild place.

I just loved the depressing, constant fight for your life, unending free roam, post-apocalyptic world.

Got New Vegas when it first came out, loved all the cool stuff you can do and weapons, but everything was so settled...it didn't have that same post-apocalyptic doomsday scenario like 3 did.

Then I played fallout 2, I liked the aggressiveness of the game, and it was very challenging, the music is cool, combat can get redundant, the quests are extremely annoying rather than engaging.

Long story short I started with three, loved it, bought one and two, enjoyed them MUCH more, and well, yeah. Also, I just love post-apocalyptic story telling.

I enjoy 1, 2, and NV more than 3. Why is this? Because the logic in FO 3 was just, well, illogical.
Beth said "These guys are good, and these guys are bad. If your a slaver, that means your a sadist and likely worship satan, any raider in existence only wants to kill people and isn't trying to survive, they just want you dead." Also, it felt like the bombs had just dropped a few months ago, its been 200 years, society should have made some advances by then. Also I found the "super mutant threat" to be just idiotic. With humanities numbers and equipment, they could easily wipe out those mutants without the Brotherhoods aid. Also also, D.C. should have been a vast ocean of nothing, bleak and hollow. D.C. would have been hit the hardest and none of the monuments would have survived.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed 3, I just disliked the form it was done in. Also, the dialouge in 3 was just unrealistic and over dramatic

"A BOY A BUEATIFULL HEALTHY BABY BOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Ok people for the love of goodness please dont derail whats been a perfectly good thread into another "new school vs old school" thread. We've already had more than enough of them to have figured out that the two sets of fans will never agree on how the series should be ran.

If your so quick to point out things that are "silly" in every game, then I think you may not have a firm grip on what the Fallout series is.
They all contain these elements because they are a part of the series. "Silliness" to an extent, is a part of it.
If your protesting against those things then your protesting against the series itself.

it wasn't too long after I joined the forums. I had been playing Oblivion for about a year and half or two, when I finally started craving something else. Fallout 3 had been released several months earlier, so I started lurking there for a while, checking out the screenshots people were posting, and reading some of the threads regarding the game in general. It wasn't long before I took the plunge into the Fallout world. I needed something else, after all, Oblivion was spent by that time, After 1000+ hrs, I just couldn't play anymore. I still do play it from time to time, but not very often.