What happen to the dwemer

Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 3:09 am

So im not sure if in other games it was reveled but i would like to know about the sudden dissaperence of the most technilogicly advanced race in Tamreil
and if not already explained could it possibly be in skyrim...the missing link to the anciant dwemer race
what i already know is that the dunmer had somethingto do with it as well as the heart of lorkhan
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:34 am

Morrowind spoiler:

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I thought they disappeared because they messed with the heart of Lorkhan?

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Post » Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:59 pm

I want to know this as well! I was surprised there was really nothing in Oblivion.

Morrowind had those awesome Dweomer ruins in Mournhold.

I could definitely see their being some Dweomer ruins under the mountains of Skyrim.

It seems like the only way Dweomer could be a playable race is if they made a prequel as it appears their race was wiped out waaaaay back in the past!
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 3:21 am

The Numidium or Anumidum, the Brass God, was a gigantic golem of Dwemer origin. Constructed by Tonal Architect Lord Kagrenac, Numidium was directly related to the disappearance of the Dwemer.

- http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Dwemer

It appears all members of the Dwemer race were simply removed from the world, possibly to an unknown location in the outer realms. In the Dwemer ruins of Bamz-Amschend in Mournhold, Morrowind, there are numerous piles of ashes present next to weapons and armor, on chairs, and in beds. This suggests their physical presences were suddenly reduced to ash in some way.


Their gone. On another plane of existence perhaps.
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Post » Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:33 pm

We don't know what exactly happened and I prefer it that way, but I agree with op that morrowind give some hints what may have happened to dwemer.
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Post » Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:28 pm

As for ruins if there are any it will be Falmer ruins... There story is pretty neat as well. Can't read about the history of Skyrim without reading about the Falmer.
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Post » Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:40 pm

Pretty much everything about the Dwemer was revealed in Morrowind.

This link has everything we know about the dwemer compiled in one location for your convenience.

http://imperial-library.info/content/definitive-guide-dwemer
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:23 am

The disappearance of the dwemer is a mystery, and I hope it stays that way.

(Effectively, I believe even Bethesda doesn't know what happened to them: There IS no answer to this question, and it wouldn't make sense to answer it either. No answer from the word of god could possibly live up to what we've all imagined it could be, so there's little point in answering it.)
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:11 am

"Lore: Dwemer
The Dwemer were a bunch of isolatred, ridiculous dwarves who had nothing else to do but create metal dolls and the likes to kill their boredom.
Digging too deep into the Caves of Chapada Diamantina they found some odd plant that looked quite nice in the dark and called it 'Moon Sugar'. Not only that, it tasted awesome - so it was not long before the whole dwarvery was addicted to it, promoting even more ridiculous parties that never ended, till one day they got too wreckless and the whole mines kinda collapsed right over their stupid shoulders. Never to be heard of."

:read: This is also how Moon Sugar and anything derived from it - specially Skooma - became a no-no in Tamriel.
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 3:16 am

Pretty much everything about the Dwemer was revealed in Morrowind.

This link has everything we know about the dwemer compiled in one location for your convenience.

http://imperial-library.info/content/definitive-guide-dwemer


Nice. I should've looked there first.

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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:55 am

I don't see why there can't be Dweomer ruins in Skyrim. They don't need to have them alive or anything, I know it is cliche...but so are vikings...and in lots of fantasy Dwarven ruins are under mountains etc.

I absolutely loved the Dweomer stuff in Morrowind.
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:40 am

Why are people so curious about this? All questions were answered in Morrowind. They are *poof* gone. Only way the could survive it is if they had enough insulation. Hint hint...
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Post » Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:44 pm

Why are people so curious about this? All questions were answered in Morrowind. They are *poof* gone. Only way the could survive it is if they had enough insulation. Hint hint...

Just because they are gone (obvious) does not mean they did not travel to other provinces and build underground fortresses.

They were invaded by the Nords. So maybe a group of them sought out the Nords for revenge and then decided to stay in Skyrim and build their own underground fortress.

I just want more of their ruins, weapons, armor, and artifacts.
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:21 am

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the dwemer also inhabited parts of Skyrim, no?
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Post » Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:06 pm

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the dwemer also inhabited parts of Skyrim, no?

I can't find the source, but I think I recall a book in Morrowind that said there were Dwemer ruins all over Tamriel, but the vast majority of the ruins were in Morrowind and Hammerfell.

So yes, I believe you are correct.
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Post » Wed Apr 07, 2010 4:10 pm

they all died, but the last one got extremely fat

and yeh a lot of mer inhabited skyrim, but they arn't there anymore been driven off
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:29 am

I personally think they where scorched: http://imperial-library.info/sites/default/files/tdgtd_dwemer_ash.jpg
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:16 am

I don't see why there can't be Dweomer ruins in Skyrim. They don't need to have them alive or anything, I know it is cliche...but so are vikings...and in lots of fantasy Dwarven ruins are under mountains etc.

I absolutely loved the Dweomer stuff in Morrowind.

Dwemer actually were not Dwarves they were short Mer, Elves.
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:26 am

This link has everything we know about the dwemer compiled in one location for your convenience.

http://imperial-library.info/content/definitive-guide-dwemer
Nice. I should've looked there first.

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That article is outdated, in various areas, most notably (and relevantly) in that it doesn't mention the generally accepted theory on the disappearance.
I can't find the source, but I think I recall a book in Morrowind that said there were Dwemer ruins all over Tamriel, but the vast majority of the ruins were in Morrowind and Hammerfell.

    "The ruins of the lost Dwemer race are found everywhere in Tamriel, but are most common in Morrowind, once the native land of the Dwemer."--Morrowind Dialogue




While I doubt Skyrim will give any new info on the Dwarves, I would like to see a Nordic account of the Battle of Red Mountain tucked away in a library somewhere.
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Post » Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:31 pm

Dwemer actually were not Dwarves they were short Mer, Elves.

Actually, they are clearly meant to be the dwarves of Tamriel.

The artifacts, the under-ground ruins, the weapons, even the name...is close to Dweomer which is magic associated with Norse Dwarves in mythology.

I don't care what they technically spin to hide that fact, its quite obvious. Just like Nords are Norse or Vikings.

Dweomer, according to the Oxford English Dictionary, is the Old English word meaning 'witchcraft' that derives from the Old Norse term dvergmál literally meaning 'dwarf talk' (dvergr dwarf + mál talk), referring to the secret knowledge of magic among the Norse dwarves. See for instance the entry, dweomercr?ft. A related Middle English word that derives from the phrase 'dwarf talk', dwergma, means 'echo', crediting the dwarves who live in the stones with the sound.


But yes, I like how they are not typical fantasy dwarves.
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:07 am

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the dwemer also inhabited parts of Skyrim, no?



Correct. Though the Dwemer homeland was in Vvardenfell and most of the Deep Elves lived primarily within the confines of the modern province of Morrowind, there was an exodus that crossed from Morrowind, via Skyrim, to Hammerfell. The primary evidence of such is the Dwemer ruins of Stros M'kai that you visit during the course of Redguard. Hell, the name Hammerfell is Dwemer in origin, given to the province by Clan Rourken when the Dwemer first arrive in the form of Volenfell as it was there that his famous artefact weapon, Volendrung, landed when he hefted it across Tamriel in the same sort of way a person might throw a dart at a map to decide where to vacation. As such, and given the fact that the most obvious route of exodus of Clan Rourken from Morrowind to Hammerfell includes traversing the Nordic wastelands of Skyrim, it's only logical that you will come across at least a few Dwemer ruins, however hastily constructed and temporary in nature.
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:25 am

It's funny that their weaponary is used all over Tamriel when they're gone. Although I guess Men or Mer smiths could of picked up the recipes.
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Post » Wed Apr 07, 2010 6:41 pm

Dwemer actually were not Dwarves they were short Mer, Elves.

They weren't short.
The artifacts, the under-ground ruins, the weapons, even the name...is close to Dweomer which is magic associated with Norse Dwarves in mythology.

I don't care what they technically spin to hide that fact, its quite obvious. Just like Nords are Norse or Vikings.

So, the Norse dwarves were technologically and magically advanced elven atheists with the power to recreate the world?
Although I guess Men or Mer smiths could of picked up the recipes.

That's actually rather unlikely. The Dwemer used a magic that as far as we know is exclusive to them in order to alter the very nature of the metal they were working with by bending the laws of the universe.
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:47 am

I don't think they're hiding the fact at all that demer are supposed to be dwarves. They've simply gone about implementing dwarves in a very original and interesting way. They're even called dwarves in oblivion.
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:17 am

It's funny that their weaponary is used all over Tamriel when they're gone. Although I guess Men or Mer smiths could of picked up the recipes.


Except for the fact that making and repurposing Dwemer metal to make new weapons and armour is next to impossible. It's simply beyond the metallurgical skills of early/mid 4th Era Tamriel. The secrets of Dwemeri metallurgy vanished with them, and even if Yagrum (locked away in Tel Fyr) somehow manages to live to SKyrim's time period, I'm assuming that Divayth or Corprus has taken its toll on the fat Dwemer man: you aren't gonna get anything from him. In the case of Oblivion, where you're getting this commonality of Dwemeri armours and weapons from, it is purely a poorly thought out game issue, a side-effect if you would of the loot scaling.

In the other games where you had Dwarven/Dwemeri weapons and armour, they were quite rare: not impossible to find, but definitely uncommon and certainly expensive enough that only the best equipped people will have any of it, and only the ultra-rich would have a full suit.

Every piece of Dwemeri armour and weapons you've seen in the games have existed for generations, with the newest things till being nearly a thousand years old. As for stylistic differences? Chalk it up to varying cultures adapting the same materials to account for regional necessities. Most Dwemer armour you see in Morrowind, if you've noticed is basically repurposed Animunculi that have been 'cleaned out' for use since most 'proper' Dwemer armour is strictly regulated by the Census and Excise Office and the East Empire Company is the primary trader in Dwemeri artefacts. Presumably, I believe, the Dwemeri armour you see worn in Cyrodiil is the sort of armour that the Dwemeri themselves would have worn: particularly if you compare it to Assyrian/Babylonian armours (in general style) considering that their ghosts you encounter in the various Dwemeri ruins in Morrowind were heavily influenced by that style.
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