What is happened with Bethesda?

First they bring very good Quality Games and now they [censored] out a new game every half year and the remains of high quality. Fallout 3 was good, then comes New Vegas. Too Early. To buggy. And now Brink. Same Result. Buggy Game.

What will come in Future? Hunted? Is Hunted really ready to release or will Bethesda only make Money and release a buggy Game? Maybe they think: First Release (to make money) and then we can patch it.

We are not your Beta Testers, Bethesda. You are too good to be like EA, Activision or other [censored] Publishers that must release a Game of a Serie every Year.

And we dont need CoD Clones. Leveling / Ranking in Games like this are superfluous.

I am so happy when the Duke will release. Simple Gameplay Shooter without [censored] Ranking / Leveling asf.

Sad yeah.

The gaming industry is the only place where complete jerks become to one of the richest men on earth with BUGGY [censored]GAMES. *bobby kotick* *cough* *cough*

Really,everywhere else you would get [censored]slapped in your face if you would push out products so buggy like PC games nowadays.



But hey,there is hope they patch this game to a wonderful game.

You are mixing Bethesda the developer with Bethesda the publisher. The developer's last game was Fallout 3, their next will be Skyrim. These miscellaneous games are developed by other developers and only published by the publisher Bethesda.

People get confused a lot with this so here goes
Bethesda Game Studios are developers ( Fallout 3, Morrowind, Oblivion )
Bethesda Softworks are publishers ( Fallout New Vegas, Brink )

Exactly, Bethesda Softworks is a publisher and publishes many games including those made by Bethesda Game Studios. Bethesda Game Studios makes Fallout:3 and all of the Elder Scrolls games and will make Fallout:4 at some point. They are currently working on Skyrim.

Bethesda Softworks published Brink, will soon publish "The Hunted", "Skyrim" and "Rage" sometime next year. Plus many more.

Bethesda didn't make either of those games...

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'Cause it was moved from the Brink section

Ok So last game BEthesda made was Fallout 3 in 2008 ,Oblivion in 2006 and Morrowind in 02. So no they are not pumping out games every year.Bethesda did not make Brink or Fallout New Vegas but rather published them.

Maybe you should do a little research before you bad mouth things you obviously don't understand.

seems you just posted this thread, ignored these posts, and then you logged off :confused:

since my last thread was closed for no apparent reason? apparently I was not active enough on the topic, sorry for having a real life....

anyways this was the link I posted:
http://www.gamesas.com/eng/links/job_011507_qadirector.html

beth soft needs a new QA director, its painfully obvious from their releases.

in response to the mods, yes I know the ad on top is for Brink, Im not an internet nub. What I also know is the QA director for Bethesda would look over a number of games both internally and externally developed and release them if they meet commercially acceptable standards, something which both New Vegas and Brink did not do at launch. Thus this was the point of my post, not sure why it was closed, it makes a whole lot of good sense.

Just to clarify for those of you with less understanding. Everyone knows Bethesda didn't develop Brink and New Vegas, they published them however. The publisher is the main one responsible for QA, thus the job description in my link above. Stop saying dont blame Beth Soft and blame the devs, no dev would every purposely release a game in such a state if not from pressure from the publisher. Stop acting you know how the industry works if you don't (lookin at u Miller the Killer)

and for those hating on the beth soft hate, you obviously didnt buy both New Vegas and Brink on launch day, like me.

people have a right to complain, especially when the QA on their releases is absolutely horrendous (or the main position is not even filled). the fact they are seeking a new QA director would not have been funny or a big deal, except thee products they release keep launching like crap and take a good 3 months to fix

also the reason that beth soft in house titles are good at release (or atleast have been, fo3 was pretty buggy but nothing on new vegas) is because they are the publishing company that would be pushing them for release give themselves as much funding and time as they need. All things they should be doing with every dev they publish.

BGS makes TES and Fallout games. Skyrim will be a AAA Blockbuster game. Bethesda Softworks publishes BGS games among others.

I notice nearly all of you are pointing out that Bethesda didn't develop the game and are blatantly ignoring
the fact that every game they've been involved with as of late have been absolutely atrocious at release.

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and this thread gets moved, aka killed

Neither Oblivion or Fallout 3 was a cleaned game either, not at least in the beginning

It's interesting to watch the playing of favorites at work. With Bethesda, they were only the publisher so it's not their fault. With games like Dragon Age and Mass Effect in other threads, EA ruined everything. In the end, we really have no way of knowing how much influence the publisher had in any of these games, because with every game it's the publisher's own choice how much they want to stick their nose in it.

Publishers do tend to take all the credit for a game (as emphasized by how incredibly frequently people think Bethesda developed New Vegas), and while we don't know the measure of their influence, even if they were barely involved they had the choice, and are not exempt from responsibility. That said, I don't see how their games are "suddenly" buggy, they always have been. I might enjoy Oblivion more if even after several stability/anti-crash mods, I didn't get "Oblivion has stopped working" every ten minutes. To be fair, sandbox games are probably some of the most difficult to bug-test effectively.

:rolleyes:

I have to disagree with that since I played my way through Fallout: New Vegas without experiencing any game-breaking bugs. Same with Brink (Haven't finished it though), the only problem it had at launch was bad latency in multiplayer matches.

It's not really fair to say that both those games were "absolutely atrocious at release". You must understand that the people who posted here and complained about bugs are only a tiny portion of the player base. The majority of the people who bought those games didn't encounter any serious bugs.

I'm interested to see the reviews for Hunted coming off of the mediocre Brink reviews. It's interesting that Bethesda is publishing four games this year and the two heavy hitters (RAGE and Skyrim) are releasing in the last quarter of the year.

Its a shame that there is so much confusion between the publisher and developer branches. Though I must say I think Obsidian did an excellent job at NV anyways.

Same here. I preferred it over Fallout:3 personally. Closer to the originals. It was a bit deeper as well. Haven't played Brink yet. I am not an online person really, and seeing as how the singleplayer is supposed to be crap, this thing is probably going to end up a cheap buy used.

Both Developers and Publishers share the responsibility, you cannot just blame the devs and left the publishers outside of the problem

Obsidian has people that worked on the original Fallouts, so it's a bonus that they got to work on New Vegas. Obsidian gets a lot of crap for having buggy games, but they're one of my favorite developers. Maybe they just don't have the budget or time to make sure their games are the most polished out there, but they have a lot of talented guys.


Um... yes, the "blame" rests entirely on the shoulders of the developers. Publishers have nothing to do with the quality of a game, they merely print and distribute it.

I wouldn't say atrocious , I have heard many people have liked these games. Sure I don't think the bugs should be just not thought of but if the developers really didn't care about the games they wouldn't rush the patches out. And hell almost every game made nowadays has some sort of bug.

I don't really know why Obsidian is getting such a bad rap for the bugs in New Vegas. Wasn't it Bethesda themselves and not Obsidian who playtested the game? Don't get me wrong, they don't have the best track record as far as buggy games go. Still, if it wasn't your issue, it wasn't your issue.